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• Thread starterCharlieK
• Start dateOct 10, 2015

(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle []).push();C CharlieKMemberOct 10, 2015

• #1

I have a #8 Dutch oven lid with what appears to be a hairline crack going from the edge to about 3/8" up, visible on both sides. How would I know for sure whether it is an actual crack in the iron or if it was a crack in the mold that transferred its image to the iron?
I'd heard/read that cracks in CI can be detected by striking with a metal object to hear if it "rings like a bell" or not, so I took a lid from a different DO & struck it with a spoon, then did the same with the lid that appears cracked. The "good" lid rang at a higher pitch than the one that appears cracked, but both reverberated for several seconds after being struck.
The reason I suspect it may be a print from a cracked mold is that another DO lid (a #7) I own has what appears to be a crack in the top (it shows on both sides of the lid and is offset enough to catch a fingernail on) but I've discovered since that it is an impression from the mold. E EdgarLopezMemberOct 10, 2015

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CharlieK said:I have a #8 Dutch oven lid with what appears to be a hairline crack going from the edge to about 3/8" up, visible on both sides. How would I know for sure whether it is an actual crack in the iron or if it was a crack in the mold that transferred its image to the iron?
I'd heard/read that cracks in CI can be detected by striking with a metal object to hear if it "rings like a bell" or not, so I took a lid from a different DO & struck it with a spoon, then did the same with the lid that appears cracked. The "good" lid rang at a higher pitch than the one that appears cracked, but both reverberated for several seconds after being struck.
The reason I suspect it may be a print from a cracked mold is that another DO lid (a #7) I own has what appears to be a crack in the top (it shows on both sides of the lid and is offset enough to catch a fingernail on) but I've discovered since that it is an impression from the mold.Click to expand...
Well is not easy how to explain if is one or an other with out of pic,but what I suggest is look closely with a magnifying glass, don't expect to see thru the crack and.compare both pieces you are talking about. C CharlieKMemberOct 10, 2015

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EdgarLopez said:Well is not easy how to explain if is one or an other with out of pic,but what I suggest is look closely with a magnifying glass, don't expect to see thru the crack and.compare both pieces you are talking about.Click to expand...
Thanks for your input, Edgar. I wasn't expecting to see through the crack, just trying to get a sense of the "ring" test. It would probably be much more definitive if I had an identical (size & maker) lid to ring them side-by-side to see if they sound the same. I was expecting a dull "thud" with the #8 (Martin) lid that appears cracked but it reverberates for several seconds, just like my #8 Griswold lid does, although the Gris rings at a higher pitch than the Martin.
In the case of my #7 Wapak lid, when I took delivery of of it, I immediately noticed what appeared to be a curved crack about an inch or so long on top that also appeared on the inside. There's even enough offset on top to catch a fingernail on as well. I was very disappointed that I hadn't noticed it in the pictures the seller had provided, and the seller hadn't mentioned it. Then when I looked closely (magnifying glass) at a picture of tbe #7 Wapak lid shown in tbe blue book, I could see the exact same crack, as well as other identical casting anomalies, in it. So I know it's not a crack, simply a casting flaw from a cracked mold.
This makes me wonder if my Martin lid is really cracked, which is why I'm trying to get a sense of what to listen for in a "ring" test. E EdgarLopezMemberOct 10, 2015

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Can you post pics inside and out side? W W. HilditchActive memberOct 11, 2015

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Charlie, you might want to let the ring test go. I thought it was great when I discovered it but it did not prove itself out. One needs two exact same pieces for comparison and if they came from the same company one has to hope they didn't change the mold or the CI formula. I tried to use it to differentiate manufactures for unmarked pieces verses marked pieces and it all went to hell.

Other than determining Lodge had deeper tone than Griswold or Wagner due to more carbon in the Lodge, I found I could get severely confused between different pieces. I think of it as another test now, not an answer.

Although you may have nailed one it seems like a real long shot you could nail two with cracks in the mold.

Hilditch C CharlieKMemberOct 11, 2015

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W. Hilditch said:Charlie, you might want to let the ring test go. I thought it was great when I discovered it but it did not prove itself out. One needs two exact same pieces for comparison and if they came from the same company one has to hope they didn't change the mold or the CI formula. I tried to use it to differentiate manufactures for unmarked pieces verses marked pieces and it all went to hell.

Other than determining Lodge had deeper tone than Griswold or Wagner due to more carbon in the Lodge, I found I could get severely confused between different pieces. I think of it as another test now, not an answer.

Although you may have nailed one it seems like a real long shot you could nail two with cracks in the mold.

HilditchClick to expand...
After ringing all my #8 lids (don't know why I didn't earlier), the Martin rings at the lowest tone, so even though it reverberates, I'll assume it's cracked. That won't keep me from cooking with it! D DSBradleyMemberOct 11, 2015

• #7

Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't the tone of a ring dependent on the shape of the lid? Or the purity of the CI?

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• Thread starterMichael Talton
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Just out of curiosity, is anyone out there (carefully) using a skillet with a hairline crack? Part of me is saying "You have plenty of other skillets, let this one go" and the other part is saying "Yeah, but it's such a sweet little skillet"... E EdgarLopezMemberOct 5, 2015

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Michael Talton said:Just out of curiosity, is anyone out there (carefully) using a skillet with a hairline crack? Part of me is saying "You have plenty of other skillets, let this one go" and the other part is saying "Yeah, but it's such a sweet little skillet"...Click to expand...
You can still using it as display,no body will know abouth the crack:icon_rofl: J Jeffrey R.Well-known memberOct 5, 2015

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If it is one that you really really like and want & also worth it to you, you can have it welded. I have had 2 skillets that I had repaired. We used nickel rod, and they cane out as good users. One being a Griswold #12, gone to a new home. :icon_thumbsup: M Michael TaltonMemberOct 5, 2015

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@ Edgar - one of the things I enjoy most about nice cast iron is using it.

@ Jeffrey - thx. If I may ask, do you recall the ballpark cost on repairing cast iron? I was wondering about that, since I found a 2nd series Erie #9 that I discovered (after the lye bath) had a repaired crack. Seems to be working just fine, and is a great user for a couple bucks (although it has been dubbed the Frankenskillet).

---------- Post added at 11:27 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:21 AM ---------- J J. FisherMemberOct 5, 2015

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I have a #6 Wagner with a hairline crack all the way up the side that I've been using for about a year without any issues. I've never seen any excess oil coming out of the crack because I think the seasoning has sealed it up. Still probably wouldn't fry chicken in it, but it's too small for that anyway.

It's my favorite egg pan. J Jeffrey R.Well-known memberOct 5, 2015

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Michael Talton said:@ Edgar - one of the things I enjoy most about nice cast iron is using it.

@ Jeffrey - thx. If I may ask, do you recall the ballpark cost on repairing cast iron? I was wondering about that, since I found a 2nd series Erie #9 that I discovered (after the lye bath) had a repaired crack. Seems to be working just fine, and is a great user for a couple bucks (although it has been dubbed the Frankenskillet).

---------- Post added at 11:27 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:21 AM ----------Click to expand...


It was $20.00 each, as I had 2 pieces done. A welder friend did them.:icon_thumbsup: B Bruce KNew memberOct 5, 2015

• #7

I have been using my wife's grandmother's cracked Griswold #8 dutch oven for years without any problems. The crack does not seem to be getting any bigger.

I have a #10 Griswold Chuckwagon that has been wleded/repaired. It works just fine, just has almost no value.

Bruce M Michael TaltonMemberOct 9, 2015

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Thanks all. S Shawn RMemberOct 10, 2015

• #9

Use it. Chances are the more you use it the crack will cover over with seasoning. Just be careful if the crack is near the handle. A heavy pan full of hot food could be a bad thing if the crack becomes a break. R RobMMemberOct 10, 2015

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Hmmm, have that old cracked ERIE dutch oven. Maybe I should try some fresh bread and see if it survives. B Bruce KNew memberOct 10, 2015

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RobM said:Hmmm, have that old cracked ERIE dutch oven. Maybe I should try some fresh bread and see if it survives.Click to expand...
Try it and let us know how it turns out.

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