'About CafeTran' on Mac
Dominique Pivard
I just installed CT for the first time on my Mac. The menu option
CafeTran > About CafeTran only reports "Version 1.0 (1.0)". The real
version information is under Help > About, like in Windows. Is it
because Igor is not aware of Mac conventions? Or is it because a Java
application cannot be modified to accommodate such a convention? No
big deal, of course, but I'm sure Mac users would appreciate finding
that info in the familiar place.
A question to Igor: could CT be made to detect if it is being started
for the first time / if no project exists? I just noticed (on my Mac)
that with a fresh install, The 'Project Manager' window is opened on
top. No problem with that, but it only allows *opening* an existing
project, not creating a new one. It's not very logical IMO. So my
suggestion would be (if possible) to detect a fresh install and have a
kind of wizard for beginners (with a checkbox in one corner saying
'Show next time', that the user could untick) with only the basic
options needed to get started. I would hide away things like "External
DB", "Translate TTX or SDLXLIFF" etc. The idea would be to have only
the basic items necessary to perform the first translation. What do
you think?
Cheers,
Dominique
Hans van den Broek
On 8 Jan 2012, at 05:05, Dominique Pivard wrote:
> No problem with that, but it only allows *opening* an existing
> project, not creating a new one.
You create a new project by selecting Translate (a document or document folder, through system clipboard, etc.). fine with me.
> kind of wizard for beginners
I suggested that ages ago. But I think the new interface is good enough.
> with only the basic options needed to get started. I would hide away things like "External
> DB",
Yes. Perhaps Igor can "grey them out."
> "Translate TTX or SDLXLIFF" etc.
I think that's a very valid option, even though CT "sees" TTX and XLIFF files as "Projects" (which they are).
Cheers,
Hans
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Jean-Christophe Helary
On Jan 8, 2012, at 7:05 AM, Dominique Pivard wrote:
> Or is it because a Java application cannot be modified to accommodate such a convention?
They can.
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Hans List
> I just installed CT for the first time on my Mac. The menu option
> CafeTran > About CafeTran only reports "Version 1.0 (1.0)". The real
> version information is under Help > About, like in Windows.
Same in Swordfish, if I'm remember correctly. In Wf Pro the menu is at both locations. Must be a Java thing. Not really important, just cosmetic.
BTW: Wf Pro takes about a minute to start where CT starts almost instantly.
Must be the difference in file size that has to be loaded into memory.
I guess ...
Dominique, what do you like about Wf Pro that is missing in CT currently?
Rodolfo, what do you like about Sw III that is missing in CT currently?
Hans, what do you like about Transit NXT that is missing in CT currently?
Igor Kmitowski
> I just installed CT for the first time on my Mac. The menu option
> CafeTran > About CafeTran only reports "Version 1.0 (1.0)". The real
> version information is under Help > About, like in Windows. Is it
> because Igor is not aware of Mac conventions? Or is it because a Java
> application cannot be modified to accommodate such a convention? No
> big deal, of course, but I'm sure Mac users would appreciate finding
> that info in the familiar place.
I have wanted to keep the menu arrangements the same on each system. But
you are right there are some conventions that need to be obeyed. I will
try to put the About dialog in the CafeTran menu in the next release.
> A question to Igor: could CT be made to detect if it is being started
> for the first time / if no project exists? I just noticed (on my Mac)
> that with a fresh install, The 'Project Manager' window is opened on
> top. No problem with that, but it only allows *opening* an existing
> project, not creating a new one. It's not very logical IMO. So my
> suggestion would be (if possible) to detect a fresh install and have a
> kind of wizard for beginners (with a checkbox in one corner saying
> 'Show next time', that the user could untick) with only the basic
> options needed to get started. I would hide away things like "External
> DB", "Translate TTX or SDLXLIFF" etc. The idea would be to have only
> the basic items necessary to perform the first translation. What do
> you think?
The Project Manager serves mainly to create a New Project. See the Hans
v.d. Broek comment. Each button in the Project section is for creating a
New project depending on the kind of translation you wish to perform.
Perhaps, the External DB box should be grayed or hidden if there are no
data in the External Database.
Cheerio,
Igor
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Dominique Pivard
> BTW: Wf Pro takes about a minute to start where CT starts almost instantly.
WFP (2.4.4) takes 14 seconds here (in Windows), CT 2 seconds.
WFP is a 133 MB download, whereas CT is less than 3 MB.
> Must be the difference in file size that has to be loaded into memory.
>
> I guess ...
That would be my guess too.
> Dominique, what do you like about Wf Pro that is missing in CT currently?
My knowledge of both WFP and CT is not sufficient to say anything
about it. I don't use WFP and I don't like it, so my knowledge of it
is very superficial. As to CT, I'm still a newbie, so it's too early
to say what's missing. One thing that would come to mind is export to
bilingual Word table and possibility to reimport back into CT, like in
DV, memoQ and Studio (with optional plugin): is there such a function
in CT? But that function is not in WFP either...
Cheers,
Dominique
Hans List
On Jan 8, 2012, at 5:30 PM, Dominique Pivard wrote:
BTW: Wf Pro takes about a minute to start where CT starts almost instantly.
WFP (2.4.4) takes 14 seconds here (in Windows), CT 2 seconds.
Dominique Pivard
> WFP (2.4.4) takes 14 seconds here (in Windows), CT 2 seconds.
I just tested on my MBA (which of course has a superfast SSD) and it
also took 14 seconds (I forgot to say my Windows laptop also has an
SSD). The version of WFP installed on my MBA is 2.4.3.1 RC2, but I
don't think it makes any difference compared to 2.4.4. I'm still left
with no ADSL after the severe winter storm we had on Boxing Day (lots
of trees fell over power and phone lines), so I dont' want to use my
3G connection just to download 2.4.4 for Mac.
I'll test starting times for WFP and CT on a Windows laptop that has a
conventional hard drive.
Cheers,
Dominique
Hans List
On Jan 8, 2012, at 6:16 PM, Dominique Pivard wrote:
> On 8 January 2012 18:49, Hans List <hans...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> WFP (2.4.4) takes 14 seconds here (in Windows), CT 2 seconds.
>
> I just tested on my MBA (which of course has a superfast SSD) and it
> also took 14 seconds (I forgot to say my Windows laptop also has an
> SSD
Ah!
;)
Dominique Pivard
Just tested on my ThinkPad Edge (2 years old laptop with 4 GB and 5400
rpm hard drive): WFP took 33 seconds to open, CT 11 seconds. The
longer time for CT could be due to the fact it was the very first time
I started it on that machine (so it had to create the registry key,
though I don't think it's a very time-consuming operatiuon).
Once you get accustomed to the speed of SSD's, there's no return!
Cheers,
Dominique
Hans List
On Jan 9, 2012, at 10:49 AM, Dominique Pivard wrote:
> Once you get accustomed to the speed of SSD's, there's no return!
I know. I have one planned for this year.
Will have to wait what Apple will do with new processors in an iMac 27.
BTW: There are external SSD disks with Thunderbolt now!
Dominique Pivard
> BTW: There are external SSD disks with Thunderbolt now!
But is the throughput of Thunderbolt fast enough so it makes a
difference whether there's an SSD or a fast conventional HD in the
external drive?
Cheers,
Dominique
Elmars Sumanis
Hans List
On Jan 9, 2012, at 10:59 AM, Dominique Pivard wrote:
> But is the throughput of Thunderbolt fast enough
That is my understanding indeed.
Hans van den Broek
On 9 Jan 2012, at 17:19, Hans List wrote:
> That is my understanding indeed.
Thunderbolt should be faster than any other interface, including eSATA. OWC has a solution to build in an SSD in your iMac that will cost you your SuperDrive.