CR 34 Repower

[Clay]

Anyone one that has re-powered their 34 with either a Yanmar 3YM30 or
3JH4E..please contact me off line.

Thanks,

Clay Owen
s/v 'Tango'

[Tane...@aol.com]

I have a 3JH turbo as original equipment in my '38. I think its great.Very economical and it will reach hull speed with a clean bottom,etc.I still have a 3 blade fixed prop.

Jim Taneyhill

"Snowdance"

CR-38 1998

 

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[Dave Newberg]

Clay

Our 1990 34 has been repowered with a Yanmar 3GM30F.

Dave
Cigano

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[Clay]

Dave-

Thanks for the info..however the 3GM30F has been discontinued and we
have the same engine as well..

Clay

[Cab...@aol.com]

How many hours do you put on a engine before you re power? My Perkins is 30 years old, with about 2500 hours. I was told you don't need to do a top end job on it until it gets to 4000 hours? I need to replace the high and low pressure fuel lines as they are rusting, anyone know of good sources for the parts?

 

Breck Caine CR 38 #19

[ldcbarker]

Breck,

I have had great service and good luck on Perkins with Foley Engines. They seem to be very knowledgeable about the Perkins 4-108.   http://www.foleyengines.com/Default.aspx

Larry

 

 

In a message dated 11/12/09 09:24:53 Eastern Standard Time, Cabo79 writes:

How many hours do you put on a engine before you re power? My Perkins is 30 years old, with about 2500 hours. I was told you don't need to do a top end job on it until it gets to 4000 hours? I need to replace the high and low pressure fuel lines as they are rusting, anyone know of good sources for the parts?

 

Breck Caine CR 38 #19

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[Alan Gluyas]

Hi Breck

 

I dealt with Trans Atlantic Diesels in Whitemarsh VA when I was across your way and I have also dealt with them by mail order from Oz – also very good to deal with.

 

I was going to replace the 4-108 in Brite Star with a Yanmar but as there is nothing wrong with it (at 1700 hrs) I have not. The 4-108 is a nice little motor, smooth running and with no vices, apart from the oil leaks, which are a standard factory option. They are regarded as being probably the most re-buildable engine ever made and there should be nothing that can’t be fixed as good as new. I would probably have the valves and guides reset, replaced  or reground somewhere between 2500 and 400o hrs, but when they need doing you will probably notice some lost compression or  some smoking from worn valve guides. When I pulled mine at 1500 hrs there was very little to do apart from lapping the valves. I did not need to do the valve guides, and there was virtually  no wear on the pistons or bore at all.

 

Good luck with the oil leaks!

 

Cheers

 

Al

 

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[ldcbarker]

Breck,

The guys at Foley advertise a complete newly designed seal kit (front and rear) for the Perkins 4-108 that they say totally eliminates the leaking issues with the engine.

[Cab...@aol.com]

Thanks

[Cab...@aol.com]

I am putting in some seal stuff that is supposed to help stop/limit leaks this week when I change the oil. I'll let you know if it helps.

[Cab...@aol.com]

Thanks Larry

[ldcbarker]

Breck,

Normally those products will only help if the seal has dried out or shrunk. If it there is no seal it will not stop the leak.

Larry

 

 

 

In a message dated 11/12/09 10:06:12 Eastern Standard Time, Cabo79 writes:

I am putting in some seal stuff that is supposed to help stop/limit leaks this week when I change the oil. I'll let you know if it helps.

 

Breck Caine CR 38 #19

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[ldcbarker]

NP

 

 

 

In a message dated 11/12/09 10:06:50 Eastern Standard Time, Cabo79 writes:

Thanks Larry

 

Breck Caine CR 38 #19

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[Mickey Panayiotakis]

Breck

I've also used Atlantic Diesels.  Did an overhaul of mine last year or two, at about 2-3k hours.  She runs great, but I've developed yet another transmission leak.

Y

On Nov 12, 2009, at 10:07 AM, Cab...@aol.com wrote:

Thanks Larry

 

Breck Caine CR 38 #19

[Cab...@aol.com]

I have a Borg warner, seems to be doing ok. Is that what most of you have?

[Mickey Panayiotakis]

Borg Warner Velvet Drive w/ 1.9:1 reduction (don't quote me on reduction).  IT's doing well except I've been plagued with leaks on this one.  THis is a rebuilt unit.

Y

On Nov 12, 2009, at 5:00 PM, Cab...@aol.com wrote:

I have a Borg warner, seems to be doing ok. Is that what most of you have?

 

Breck Caine CR 38 #19

[Kale Gorham]

I was thinking of repowering with yanmar but you know there is nothing wong with Perkins so I just deciede when time come Ill stay with the Perkins and ave all the hasels of repowering with an different brand of plant CR38 #59

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[ldcbarker]

Like I mentioned the folks at Foley advertise a number of options. One is a completely rebuilt engine (Perkins 4-108) dropped at the dock and exchange for your engine core. Did not run across this any where else yet. I have never used them for this service but have for a number of other services and they are very reliable.

[Mickey Panayiotakis]

I believe TAdiesel has the same service I believe.  I did it with the transmission rebuilt.  YOu may have to call them.  Then again, I could be wrong.

Y

[Cab...@aol.com]

I use Dexon 3? do you?

[Robert Benner]

We  just (112 days ago) repowered our CR38 with a Beta 43.  The tranny was shot, again, and the old Westerbeke W46 was leaking oil at a prodigious rate, not a usual circumstance for the Mitsubishi blocked W46.

By the time we had the old diesel pulled out of the boat and the transmission replaced with new (the last rebuild only lasted 500 hours), we would have had close to $5K invested.

The old W46 only had 3,500 hours on it and we were inclined to think her to be good for at least this much more.  We chose a new diesel and looked at the $5K as a discount on the cost of repowering.

Getting parts for the W46 was getting to be a bear and new gaskets,  ordered when we thought we could seal her back up without removing the engine from the boat, took weeks to arrive.

With only 200 hours on the new unit we are hardly yet in position to make definitive comments but we like:

• the quiet smooth performance
• the 250 hour oil change period
• the clean oil - with 150 hours on the unit since the initial oil change our oil is still clean and clear.  With the Westerbeke lube oil was totally black after 3 hours.
• manuals - with Westerbeke the parts manual and the shop manual cost a lot of money.  Beta provided them to me by email on request. 
• parts availability and price - the Beta is a Kubota block and Beta give you all the competitor's prices for the usual stuff you need - filters, belts, gaskets etc.  They also sell Beta brand at competitive pricing.  All prices are far better than anything Westerbeke offered and it is nice having the generic part numbers for the Kubota block.

we are unhappy with the fuel consumption but continue to expect it to improve.  On this we are running faster and have increased our cruise speed from 6 to 6.5 knots.  Still we used to burn 2 - 3 litres an hour and now burn 3 - 4.  On a 30 hour test at each speed , fuel consumption did not seem to be radically different at 2,000 rpm or 2,200 rpm.

I read this to Connie before hitting send and she agrees.

Bob and Connie
aboard Meredith

[ldcbarker]

Breck,

 

I honestly can't remember. Black & Gold label. I only used it once after the replacement of the front timing cover. We still had one very minor leak in another seal. I actually went to NAPPA and they recommended a product that they said all the marinas were using. I read the bottle and this company has been around for like 80 years. The product was like honey (thick) worked very well. As they said on the bottle, it was designed to rejuvenate dried out seals. I have the bottle but it is on the boat and we are stored for the winter.

Larry

 

 

 

In a message dated 11/12/09 19:57:26 Eastern Standard Time, Cabo79 writes:

I use Dexon 3? do you?

 

Breck Caine CR 38 #19

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[Mickey Panayiotakis]

Bob & Connie

 Still we used to burn 2 - 3 litres an hour and now burn 3 - 4.  On a 30 hour test at each speed , fuel consumption did not seem to be radically different at 2,000 rpm or 2,200 rpm.

THta's a significant increase in fuel consumption!  You moved from a standard (not turbo or anything fance) Westerbreke 46hp to a beta 43?  This is odd.  At what RPM did you run the Westebreke ?  I assume you're burning 3-4 at the same speed (6kn) as you used to run the westebreke?

Anyone else on here have fuel consumptions rates for the westebreke? (I don't think anyones has the beta 43 but if so I'd be interested int hat as well)

thanks

Y

[dennis williamson]

did  mine in Horta, Azores last fall.  A  Yanmar 75hp very pleased with it good consumption but a very tight fit.

 

not particularly happy with availability of information and after sales support from Yanmar was a big prob;lem getting good service and technical manuals apart from that very happy easy to service and self bleeding.

 

Dennis

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