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Dear Bike Facility Fans:
For more fun, here's a much less technical explanation of Sharrows from the City of San Diego's bike program. Link goes to PDF.
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Robert Leone
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Ok.. what was originally put in the MUTCD was wrong and sometimes put sharrows in the door zone. It needs to be revised.
Here are 2 similar formulas for correct sharrow placement. Attaching both for the committee to decide on. One is in the ITE Handbook (Institute of Traffic Enginers) with pages also attached
Yes, sharrow are in the CAMUTCD.. but I thought maybe the HDM gave more recommendations of how they should be used.
In any case, I’m now attaching the exact formula for placement.
There are 2 recommendations that are very similar. One takes more into account the left shy buffer and they use 2 different parking lane widths, one 10 feet one 11 feet. One calls it usable lane, the other effective lane.
S = (L+10)/2. Better for narrower lanes down to 16 feet or
S = (L+11)/2 formula places the sharrows 1/2 foot further leftward than the other, which is not a significant difference for lanes over 20 feet wide. For narrower lanes, especially below 18 feet, it can place the cyclist closer than optimal to the adjacent lane to the left.
.( Basically you are putting the sharrow between the wheels of the motorist, which is almost never the center of the lane, with or without parking. Many contractors would recognize this as the same place they would put a STOP or SLOW stencil marking on the road.)

Effective lane width

Usable Lane

Attached is a copy of the ITE Traffic Control Devices Handbook, 2nd Edition (copyright 2013). It has several pages on shared lane markings, including several tables on lateral positioning depending on road geometry.
What road in CoSD has a lane that wide with shared-lane markings painted? Also notice the position of the cyclist...
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Very rare very short segments here or there, maybe.Like I said, if there is that much width on a long enough stretch that someone is bringing out the paint, you might as well as paint a bike lane. If there is insufficient lane width to carve out a bike lane then the lane is too narrow to safely share, by definition, and the sharrow should be centered in the effective lane.Jim, I hope you memorize that paragraph and repeat it at the CTCDC and anywhere else that's relevant.Serge
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What actions did you take to deliver the recommendations.
Who is on the committee?
Is Bryan Jones still on it?
Judy
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What actions did you take to deliver the recommendations.
Who is on the committee?
Is Bryan Jones still on it?
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Thanks for the info.
How can they possibly think it’s a good idea to use for wayfinding. There are wayfinding symbols already in the MUTCD. That is absolutely ridiculous.
I hope your info the actual MUTCD committee will quash that. MUTCD says you don’t use one symbol for a different purpose.
Who is CBAC and why would they do such a thing?
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Subject: Re: [San-Diego-Bicyclist-Forum] Re: [CABOforum] Sharrows... and the CA-MUTCD
Judy asked me several questions.
Thanks for the info.
How can they possibly think it’s a good idea to use for wayfinding. There are wayfinding symbols already in the MUTCD. That is absolutely ridiculous.
I hope your info the actual MUTCD committee will quash that. MUTCD says you don’t use one symbol for a different purpose.
Who is CBAC and why would they do such a thing?
From: jimb...@gmail.com [mailto:jimb...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Jim Baross
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Judy asked me several questions.