CVC 21565 and highways with CLTL

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Gary Cziko

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Dec 24, 2014, 11:23:31 AM12/24/14
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People,

Am I correct in my interpretation that CVC 212656 does not apply on a highway with two travel lanes (one in each direction) and a continuous left turn lane?

CVC 21656.  On a two-lane highway where passing is unsafe because of traffic in the opposite direction or other conditions, a slow-moving vehicle, including a passenger vehicle, behind which five or more vehicles are formed in line, shall turn off the roadway at the nearest place designated as a turnout by signs erected by the authority having jurisdiction over the highway, or wherever sufficient area for a safe turnout exists, in order to permit the vehicles following it to proceed. As used in this section a slow-moving vehicle is one which is proceeding at a rate of speed less than the normal flow of traffic at the particular time and place.

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Bob Shanteau

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Dec 24, 2014, 11:52:58 AM12/24/14
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On 12/24/2014 8:22 AM, Gary Cziko wrote:

People,

Am I correct in my interpretation that CVC 212656 does not apply on a highway with two travel lanes (one in each direction) and a continuous left turn lane?


Maybe. Logically, what you are describing would be a three lane highway with a two-way left turn lane, but the CVC still defines a three lane highway as having a passing lane in the middle, none of whcih exist any more.
https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/?1dmy&urile=wcm:path:/dmv_content_en/dmv/pubs/vctop/vc/d11/c3/a1/21659
https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/dmv/?1dmy&urile=wcm:path:/dmv_content_en/dmv/pubs/vctop/vc/d11/c2/a3/21460.5

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21659. Upon a roadway which is divided into three lanes a vehicle shall not be driven in the extreme left lane at any time, nor in the center lane except when overtaking and passing another vehicle where the roadway ahead is clearly visible and the center lane is clear of traffic within a safe distance, or in preparation for a left turn, or where the center lane is at the time allocated exclusively to traffic moving in the direction the vehicle is proceeding and is signposted to give notice of such allocation. This section does not apply upon a one-way roadway.

21460.5. (a) The Department of Transportation and local authorities in their respective jurisdictions may designate a two-way left-turn lane on a highway. A two-way left-turn lane is a lane near the center of the highway set aside for use by vehicles making left turns in both directions from or into the highway.
(b) Two-way left-turn lanes shall be designated by distinctive roadway markings consisting of parallel double yellow lines, interior line dashed and exterior line solid, on each side of the lane. The Department of Transportation may determine and prescribe standards and specifications governing length, width, and positioning of the distinctive pavement markings. All pavement markings designating a two-way left-turn lane shall conform to the Department of Transportation's standards and specifications.
(c) A vehicle shall not be driven in a designated two-way left-turn lane except when preparing for or making a left turn from or into a highway or when preparing for or making a U-turn when otherwise permitted by law, and shall not be driven in that lane for more than 200 feet while preparing for and making the turn or while preparing to merge into the adjacent lanes of travel. A left turn or U-turn shall not be made from any other lane where a two-way left-turn lane has been designated.
(d) This section shall not prohibit driving across a two-way left-turn lane.
(e) Raised pavement markers may be used to simulate painted lines described in this section when such markers are placed in accordance with standards established by the Department of Transportation.
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Bill Davidson

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Dec 24, 2014, 1:20:04 PM12/24/14
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So it's illegal to use one of those two-way left turn lanes to pass?
Many I know of are continuous for distances which easily allow passing
when clear.
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Judy Frankel

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Dec 24, 2014, 1:24:10 PM12/24/14
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I have heard them called suicide lanes

Gary Cziko

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Dec 24, 2014, 1:59:48 PM12/24/14
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Bob,

Thanks for the definition info.

Logically, it would make sense for 212656 to apply a three-lane highway with a two-way left turn lane because the center lane cannot ever be legally used for passing, which is more restrictive than two-lane highways which usually have passing zones.

But I suppose I shouldn't complain if I can don't have a legal requirement to ever turn out while cycling on such a road.

-- Gary



On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 8:53 AM, Bob Shanteau <rms...@gmail.com> wrote:

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Gary Cziko

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Dec 25, 2014, 3:26:23 PM12/25/14
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Judy,

"Suicide lanes" (which I haven't seen anywhere for decades) are single passing lanes that are sequentially shared between the two directions. I'm talking about center continuous left-turn lanes here.

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