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Ryan Velasco

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Dear Councilmember Wells,


At the Oct. 18th ANC 6ATransportation and Public Safety Committee, Chris Holben of the District Department of Transportation (DDOT) announced that a decision had been made to place a CaBi station on the traffic triangle at the northeast (NE) corner of Lincoln Park.  At this meeting, Mr. Holben acknowledged that the NE traffic triangle was not DDOT’s first choice of a location.  In fact, in early August DDOT proposed locating the CaBI station on the traffic triangle southeast (SE) of Lincoln Park .  DDOT staff wrote to Commissioner Jarboe seeking his comments on placing the CaBi station on that traffic triangle.  Commissioner Jarboe responded that  “The immediate feedback I've gotten from the neighbors next to the site is strongly negative.  They feel that such facilities should be in commercial areas and are not appropriate in the residential setting.”   In reaction to the objections of residents south of the park, DDOT decided against placing the station on the SE traffic triangle and simply shifted the proposal to the NE traffic triangle.

 

According to Mr. Holben, the objections to the SE triangle are: vandalism, noise, safety, sightlines, it’s an attractive nuisance, and it is immediately in front of residential property.  All of these deficiencies apply equally to the NE traffic triangle.  Yet at every turn, DDOT has discounted the concerns of residents north of Lincoln Park while giving great weight to the identical concerns of their more fortunate neighbors to the south.  Even many who might otherwise have welcomed the CaBi station have been alienated by DDOT’s apparent favoritism.

 

Indeed, it is totally unnecessary to advantage one group of residents over another.  Several alternative locations have been suggested within a two block radius of Lincoln Park, including one location just a block and a half block away – on 13th St NE adjacent to the basketball court at Maury ES, where it would block no one’s views and impinge on no one’s private property. DDOT’s rigid insistence that the site be immediately adjacent the park itself is getting in the way of a fair and amicable resolution.  In fairness to everyone, please ask DDOT to reconsider its decision to place a station on the NE traffic triangle and to choose an alternative location.

 

 

Regards,

Nick Alberti

Commissioner ANC 6A04

 

 


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Erik Donald

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Oct 21, 2010, 1:17:20 PM10/21/10
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Should we as CaBi Forward write a letter to Councilman Wells stating they do not share the commissioner's view on the bikestation?  Personally, I don't like how the commissioner views bikestations as a negative nuisance to the community.  He should be viewing them as a positive asset.  And that DDOT picked a suitable location in the NE triangle, which fits the size of a bikestation needed for Lincoln Park.

Also, if it IS a problem, DDOT said they can move it in "1 hour" according to the meeting this week.

-Erik

Tracy Russo

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Oct 21, 2010, 1:20:40 PM10/21/10
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This is ridiculous. I am e-mailing Wells' office to disagree with this nonsense.

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Ryan Velasco

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I agree Erik---I think we should draft a letter. Should we post on
google docs so we can collaborate in drafting?

Tracy--

Just e-mailed Wells and his Chief of Staff. I'd encourage everyone to
send an e-mail independently as well, identifying yourselves with CaBi
Forward.

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> This is ridiculous. I am e-mailing Wells' office to disagree with this
> nonsense.
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> On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:55 PM, Ryan Velasco <ryanmatthewvela...@gmail.com
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> >   Dear Councilmember Wells,
>
> >  At the Oct. 18th ANC 6ATransportation and Public Safety Committee, Chris
> > Holben of the District Department of Transportation (DDOT) announced that a
> > decision had been made to place a CaBi station on the traffic triangle at
> > the northeast (NE) corner of Lincoln Park.  At this meeting, Mr. Holben
> > acknowledged that the NE traffic triangle was not DDOT’s first choice of a
> > location.  In fact, in early August DDOT proposed locating the CaBI station
> > on the traffic triangle southeast (SE) of Lincoln Park .  DDOT staff wrote
> > to Commissioner Jarboe seeking his comments on placing the CaBi station on
> > that traffic triangle.  Commissioner Jarboe responded that  “*The
> > immediate feedback I've gotten from the neighbors next to the site is strongly
> > negative.  They feel that such facilities should be in commercial areas
> > and are not appropriate in the residential setting*.”   In reaction to the
> > objections of residents south of the park, DDOT decided against placing the
> > station on the SE traffic triangle and simply shifted the proposal to the NE
> > traffic triangle.
>
> > According to Mr. Holben, the objections to the SE triangle are: vandalism,
> > noise, safety, sightlines, it’s an attractive nuisance, and it is
> > immediately in front of residential property.  All of these deficiencies
> > apply equally to the NE traffic triangle.  Yet at every turn, DDOT has
> > discounted the concerns of residents north of Lincoln Park while giving
> > great weight to the identical concerns of their more fortunate neighbors to
> > the south.  Even many who might otherwise have welcomed the CaBi station
> > have been alienated by DDOT’s apparent favoritism.
>
> > Indeed, it is totally unnecessary to advantage one group of residents over
> > another.  Several alternative locations have been suggested within a two
> > block radius of Lincoln Park, including one location just a block and a half
> > block away – on 13th St NE adjacent to the basketball court at Maury ES,
> > where it would block no one’s views and impinge on no one’s private
> > property. DDOT’s rigid insistence that the site be immediately adjacent the
> > park itself is getting in the way of a fair and amicable resolution.  In
> > fairness to everyone, please ask DDOT to reconsider its decision to place a
> > station on the NE traffic triangle and to choose an alternative location.
>
> > Regards,
>
> > Nick Alberti
>
> > Commissioner ANC 6A04
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Tracy Russo

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This is what I am going to send. If you'd like, I can hold off and you can send it from the group with edits. If not, I will hit send now and send it myself.
 
Dear Councilmember Wells,
 
At the October 18th ANC 6A Transportation and Public Safety Committee, Chris Holben of the District Department of Transportation met with residents to hear their concerns and ideas about placing a Capitol Bike Station in the immediate vicinity of Lincoln Park. At this meeting, ANC 6A Commissoner Albreti agressively questioned Mr. Holban about DDOT's decision to move the triangle from the SE to NE corner of the park.
 
As a result of this questioning, Mr. Holben acknowlegded that neighbors had voiced concerns of: vandalism, noise, safety, sightlines, and it's potential as an attractive nuisance to lure children into the street. While noting these objectins were raised, Mr. Holben also stated that these concerns were not deemed to be a concern to DDOT. However, he said that these concerns did prompt DDOT to revisit the location of the station, at which time they assessed that the NE triangle would be better suited to a station because of it's larger size and greater width. Furthermore, the NE CaBi station would deter jaywalking from the triangle across 13th Street to the Church. To me, this seems like thoughtful planning, rather than favoritism.
 
A CaBi Station immediately adjacent to Lincoln Park is in great demand. Many people requested a station there, including myself, when Capitol Bike Share asked for the public to provide input on where stations should be placed. Furthermore, dozens of supporters of the station showed up to atest to this fact at the meeting earlier this week and advocate for a CaBi station.
 
Despite the Commissioner's objections, it is my great hope that the DDOT will proceed to immediately install a station so that residents of Lincoln Park can take advantage of the program.
 
If the station causes any trouble, Mr. Holben noted, it can be easily dismantled and moved. That is the beauty of a modular, portable system.
 
I hope you will press upon Mr. Holben and DDOT to move forward on this worthwhile project with placement at Lincoln Park, as planned. This is a main artery of the neighborhood, a DC destination, and perfectly suited to a CaBi Station. Our neighborhood will benefit from this location and I hope Capitol Hill will soon see additional stations placed throughout the residential areas to better connect us all.
 
With appreciation for your continued efforts to make this a livable and walkable community,
 
Tracy Russo
1200 Block of East Capitol Street NE
 

Ryan Velasco

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Oct 21, 2010, 1:36:14 PM10/21/10
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Tracy this is perfect.

I would like to send this out on behalf of CaBi Forward. Erik, any
comments?


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> send it from the group with edits. If not, I will hit send now and send it
> myself.*

Erik Donald

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I think it sounds great!

Ryan Velasco

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Dear Councilmember Wells,
 
CaBi Forward--at 19 members and growing--is an organization dedicated to the expansion of this innovative public transportation system.  We write to express our strong support for a bikestation at Lincoln Park.

At the October 18th meeting of ANC 6A's Transportation and Public Safety Committee, Chris Holben of the District Department of Transportation (DDOT) met with residents to hear their concerns and ideas about placing a Capitol Bike Station in the immediate vicinity of Lincoln Park. At this meeting, ANC 6A Commissoner Alberti aggressively questioned Mr. Holban about DDOT's decision to move the triangle from the SE to NE corner of the park.
 
As a result of this questioning, Mr. Holben acknowledged that neighbors had voiced concerns of: vandalism, noise, safety, sightlines, and it's potential as an attractive nuisance to lure children into the street. While noting these objections were raised, Mr. Holben also stated that these concerns were not deemed to be a concern to DDOT. However, he said that these concerns did prompt DDOT to revisit the location of the station, at which time they assessed that the NE triangle would be better suited to a station because of it's larger size and greater width. Furthermore, the NE CaBi station would deter jaywalking from the triangle across 13th Street to the Church. To us, this seems like a thoughtful planning, rather than favoritism.
 
A CaBi Station immediately adjacent to Lincoln Park is in great demand. Many people requested a station there, including many CaBi Forward members, when Capitol Bike Share asked for the public to provide input on where stations should be placed. Furthermore, dozens of supporters of the station showed up to attest to this fact at the meeting earlier this week and advocated for a CaBi station in the vicinity of the park.
 
Despite the Commissioner's objections, it is our hope that DDOT will proceed with the installation of this station.  Once placed, should problems arise, Mr. Holben noted it can be dismantled within one hour and moved. That is the beauty of a modular, portable system.  Meanwhile, we hope that your office will continue to work with the National Park Service to address current regulations that prevent CaBi from being placed directly on federally administered property.
 
We hope you will press upon Mr. Holben and DDOT to move forward on this worthwhile project with placement at Lincoln Park, as planned. This is a main artery of the neighborhood, a DC destination, and perfectly suited to a CaBi Station. Our neighborhood will benefit from this location and we hope Capitol Hill will soon see additional stations placed throughout the residential areas to better connect us all.
 
With appreciation for your continued efforts to make this a livable and walkable community,
 
CaBi Forward

On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:37 PM, Nicholas Alberti <alber...@yahoo.com> wrote:
 

Dear Councilmember Wells,


At the Oct. 18th ANC 6ATransportation and Public Safety Committee, Chris Holben of the District Department of Transportation (DDOT) announced that a decision had been made to place a CaBi station on the traffic triangle at the northeast (NE) corner of Lincoln Park.  At this meeting, Mr. Holben acknowledged that the NE traffic triangle was not DDOT’s first choice of a location.  In fact, in early August DDOT proposed locating the CaBI station on the traffic triangle southeast (SE) of Lincoln Park .  DDOT staff wrote to Commissioner Jarboe seeking his comments on placing the CaBi station on that traffic triangle.  Commissioner Jarboe responded that  “The immediate feedback I've gotten from the neighbors next to the site is strongly negative.  They feel that such facilities should be in commercial areas and are not appropriate in the residential setting.”   In reaction to the objections of residents south of the park, DDOT decided against placing the station on the SE traffic triangle and simply shifted the proposal to the NE traffic triangle.

 

According to Mr. Holben, the objections to the SE triangle are: vandalism, noise, safety, sightlines, it’s an attractive nuisance, and it is immediately in front of residential property.  All of these deficiencies apply equally to the NE traffic triangle.  Yet at every turn, DDOT has discounted the concerns of residents north of Lincoln Park while giving great weight to the identical concerns of their more fortunate neighbors to the south.  Even many who might otherwise have welcomed the CaBi station have been alienated by DDOT’s apparent favoritism.

 

Indeed, it is totally unnecessary to advantage one group of residents over another.  Several alternative locations have been suggested within a two block radius of Lincoln Park, including one location just a block and a half block away – on 13th St NE adjacent to the basketball court at Maury ES, where it would block no one’s views and impinge on no one’s private property. DDOT’s rigid insistence that the site be immediately adjacent the park itself is getting in the way of a fair and amicable resolution.  In fairness to everyone, please ask DDOT to reconsider its decision to place a station on the NE traffic triangle and to choose an alternative location.

 

 

Regards,

Nick Alberti

Commissioner ANC 6A04

 

 


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I agree, very well written Tracy. It was an open-minded view to the situation.

I just got my keyfob in the mail yesterday and as I become more
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Cody Rice

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Dear Councilmember Wells,

I have great respect for Commissioner Alberti, and I understand how DDOT's process has created a huge headache for him, but I strongly urge that Capital Bikeshare move ahead with the NE triangle location at Lincoln Park as soon as possible.

We shouldn't let the overblown concerns of a few residents veto this use of public space by a much larger group of CaBi users who also live nearby. The arguments made against the SE triangle were largely specious, but Commissioner Alberti is correct that, if you believe them, they apply equally to the NE triangle. I think the one real difference is that sight lines for traffic may be slightly better at the NE triangle since the station could be positioned parallel to 13th St NE.

At this point, my main concern is that the station be installed without further delay. My own membership is quite a bit less useful until the stations at 13th & D NE and Lincoln Park are installed. I feel like this whole brouhaha has delayed installation of these stations. The worst outcome would be further delay waiting for a location in the park or in the street, or out of a desire for complete consensus. Let's just move ahead and try it out at the NE triangle. Since the stations are highly mobile, if it creates a real problem at the NE triangle, the station can be picked up and moved in an hour.

A CaBi bike transit station would be an appropriate use of this public space, and I really wish Commissioner Alberti saw the opportunity to place this CaBi station in a location that would be more advantageous for the residents of his Single Member District. Early CaBi maps created an expectation that a station would be available at Lincoln Park, not several blocks away.

Placing a station at either the SE or NE triangle is going to make one Commissioner and a few neighbors angry (at least for a little while), but delaying the installation or not placing a station on the park is going to provoke a much wider reaction. If there is something for you to do here, I think it is to help DDOT improve the process for consulting with the ANCs so that everyone feels like the process is fair. The real problem is too few stations in NE Capitol Hill. We should really be thinking about how to place more stations at Stanton Park, the NE Neighborhood Library, etc.

Thanks for your attention.

Cody Rice
1238 C St NE

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Ryan
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Dear Councilmember Wells,


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Cody Rice

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I have known Commissioner Alberti for a number of years, and he is one of the best and most thoughtful neighborhood advocates out there. I can appreciate how DDOT has put him in a very awkward position. I suspect we wouldn't be in this situation if DDOT had targeted the NE corner from the beginning.

If anyone from the CaBiForward group lives in Commissioner Alberti's Single Member District (6A04), it might be worth sending him an email expressing your support for the NE location over alternatives that are several blocks away. As with many public space issues, the residents immediately adjacent who oppose the site are probably drowning out more numerous residents who would favor this location.

I think Tracy made the right point in the right way when she said:

"As a result of this questioning, Mr. Holben acknowledged that neighbors had voiced concerns of: vandalism, noise, safety, sight lines, and its potential as an attractive nuisance to lure children into the street. While noting these objections were raised, Mr. Holben also stated that these concerns were not deemed to be a concern to DDOT. However, he said that these concerns did prompt DDOT to revisit the location of the station, at which time they assessed that the NE triangle would be better suited to a station because of its larger size and greater width. Furthermore, the NE CaBi station would deter jaywalking from the triangle across 13th Street to the Church. To me, this seems like thoughtful planning, rather than favoritism."

-Cody Rice


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Tracy Russo

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If you are on twitter:

You can sign a version of the earlier letter and tweet it to Wells.

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