CALIFORNIA NEEDS ANOTHER RESERVOIR IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA

[Voter]

On 5/26/2018 10:33 AM, Voter wrote:
> On 10/29/2017 2:02 PM, Voter wrote:
>> On 10/29/2017 12:34 PM, Voter wrote:
>>> On 10/29/2017 11:43 AM, Voter wrote:
>>>> On 10/29/2017 11:39 AM, Voter wrote:
>>>>> On 10/28/2017 12:10 PM, Voter wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yurok_Indian_Reservation
>>>>>> with almost 5,000 enrolled members, the Yurok Tribe is California's largest
>>>>>> Indian
>>>>>> Tribe.[citation needed]... The 2000 census reported a resident population of
>>>>>> 1,103
>>>>>> persons on reservation territory, mostly in the community of Klamath, at the
>>>>>> reservation's north end.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> That's "1,103 persons on reservation territory, mostly in the community of
>>>>> Klamath, at the reservation's north end."
>>>>>
>>>>> This isn't where the reservoir would be, 12 miles inland. Additionally
>>>>> perhaps as
>>>>> part of the development plan, the reservoir also could be stocked with fishable
>>>>> salmon, and we could heal their parasite problem.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Here's what the final reservoir was suggested to look like, take a good look at
>>>>> it. All we're doing is blocking the water from flowing out to the sea and
>>>>> creating a reservoir. It's conceivable it could create a much more scenic, and
>>>>> much more usable, total area:
>>>>>
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9a/Ah_Pah_Dam_project%2C_Klamath_river%2C_1951.svg
>>>>>
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>>>>> At the very least we could ask the Indians if they would like this
>>>>> reservoir. Or
>>>>> perhaps the people of California have the prerogative...
>>>>>
>>>>> The Ah Pah Dam
>>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ah_Pah_Dam
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Here's a map of their total reservation:
>>>>
>>>>
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Yurok+Reservation,+Trinity-Klamath,+CA/@41.3685586,-124.1596287,10z/data=!3m1!4b1!4m5!3m4!1s0x54d1a8156f591fd5:0xbcbca4e17d7d8801!8m2!3d41.3724029!4d-123.9009415
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>>>
>>> There's apparently another 1,238 people on the Resighini Rancheria. But that is
>>> in the north also, 2-3 miles south of Klamath. Map:
>>>
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Resighini+Rancheria,+Hoppaw,+CA+95548/@41.5043213,-124.0524423,12.75z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x54d05440dd654ea5:0x2007c5a3b18a4360!8m2!3d41.5133976!4d-124.022632
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>>>
>>> They may have to be consulted too.
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Resighini_Rancheria ((this page says the population
>>> is 31, but census.gov seems to confirm the 1,238:
>>> https://www.census.gov/2010census/popmap/ipmtext.php?fl=4760 )) :
>>>
>>>
>>> "Fishing Controversy
>>>
>>> The Resighini rancheria is completely enclosed within the Yurok reservation. As a
>>> result, fishing conflicts have arisen with the Yurok tribe. The Yurok tribe
is the
>>> largest in California with about 6000 members. The Yurok tribe claims
jurisdiction
>>> over Resighini lands and interferes with tribal members’ ability to fish at the
>>> Klamath River. In May 2016, the Yurok tribe filed a federal lawsuit to stop
>>> members of the Resighini Rancheria from gillnet fishing off of the Klamath River.
>>> According to the Yurok tribe, in 1991, the Hoopa-Yurok Settlement Act divided
>>> lands into the Yurok and the Hoopa reservations. The Resighini Rancheria was
>>> offered the option of joining the Yurok tribe in order to have access to Yurok
>>> lands and access to fishing. Instead, the tribal members opted for a $15,000 per
>>> person payout. The Yurok argue that the Resighini gave up their fishing rights
>>> when they made this agreement. The Resighini members argue that they retained
>>> their fishing rights and that the Yurok are unjustly interfering with their land
>>> and water use. The Yurok further argue that they are in the midst of a massive
>>> conservation effort, and the Resighini are interfering in their attempts to save
>>> the fish in the Klamath River.
>>>
>>> Dam Controversy
>>>
>>> The area surrounding the Resighini Rancheria has been impacted by
government-built
>>> dams. The Secretary of Interior began a process to consider removal of Klamath
>>> Hydroelectric Power dams through the Klamath Settlement Agreement in 2010.
>>> However, the tribe opposes the settlement because it argues that the Agreement
>>> does not have any provisions for ecological restoration and delays dam removal
>>> until 2020. The Agreement is set to expire soon because there is no authorizing
>>> legislation and the dam does not wish to extend the deadline. The tribe believes
>>> the US government must take steps to address water pollution and restore Native
>>> fishes, particularly suckers and salmon that are threatened with extinction. The
>>> Yurok tribe supports the Agreement. To further complicate matters, anti-Indian
>>> groups,such as the Klamath Party Tea Party Patriots have intervened against the
>>> Agreement because they oppose the removal of dams because they think it will hurt
>>> the agricultural industry. "
>>>
>>>
>>> Then there's the Hupa Reservation. The Hupa Reservation begins just below where
>>> the Klamath reaches the Trinity River. So it looks like the plan is for them to
>>> also have a Reservoir.
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hupa
>>>
>>> "The Hupa Valley Indian Reservation has a resident population of 2,633 persons
>>> according to the 2000 census." Total tribal population 3,139.
>>>
>>> Map of Reservations:
>>> http://www.ncidc.org/sites/default/files/education_graphics/NWCAtribalmap.jpg
>>>
>>> The Hoopa are suing the Federal Government for Salmon depletion:
>>> http://www.times-standard.com/article/NJ/20160729/NEWS/160729855
>>>
>>> "Federal irrigation project and private dam operators on the Klamath River divert
>>> and store water, leaving less for fish. The water that remains is warmer than
>>> tolerable for salmon and polluted with nutrients and chemicals. Under those
>>> conditions, fish are vulnerable to diseases they ordinarily could survive. "
>>>
>>>
>>> These people in Colorado stock the reservoir with Salmon:
>>> http://www.skyhinews.com/news/1m-salmon-stocked-in-lake-granby/
>>>
>>> I'm not sure of the species, if it's possible with either species, if the
>>> California Indians care about the exact species, or just want fish, or if this
>>> would work.
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>>
>>
>> Looks like total Indians involved could total as much as 6,000+1238+3139= 10,377,
>> but only 1,103+31or1,238+2,633= 3,767 or 4,974 living there between all three
>> tribes. Mostly it looks like because nearly 5,000 of the 6,000 Yurok don't live
>> on the Reservation.
>>
>> So maybe solving California's water problems, and the Indian's fishing complaints
>> all at once could be possible and a great thing. Maybe it could even lower the
>> price of Salmon. Natural farmed fish or something? Otherwise, solving
>> California's water problems was originally my idea and advocation and impetus for
>> these posts.
>>
>>
>> Also, I think this one Indian started building this village near the proposed damn
>> location in 2007, and got it recognized as a historical site. Correct me if I'm
>> wrong in assuming nearly no one lives there. All I can say is, I'm not sure about
>> this whole notion of "Indian Reservations." This is our world too. Our sun, our
>> moon, our sky, and our stars. Basically everyone who wants to monopolize land
>> should pay the people rent directly. Why can't I use the "public lands" without
>> "permission." From an immigration perspective we're not going to let all the
>> immigrants come in here and use all our capital and property, for we have to make
>> our capital into more capital, for now. Likewise, who gave anyone permission to
>> get pregnant past three months, when others who are alive aren't 100% provided for
>> and happy. Having a baby's not a human right. You can't just hatch these
>> children and let them fly away. You can't just release 100 clones of yourself. We
>> should have a 1 child per woman advocation for the next 50 years probably. But
>> the Indians had no capital, they had tons and tons and tons of land. There's
>> still tons and tons and tons of land. We came here from Europe with capital. And
>> I don't see why we can't conceive of a public land notion that allows everybody
>> who wants to live like an Indian to live like an Indian. The selfish who believe
>> in private property can't see all the property they would already have, if they
>> wouldn't withhold it from others. These disputes are about fish, which means
>> food. This Reservoir is about food. It's obvious that California needs a
>> Reservoir if possible, for food. So if we have to pay to move this man's
>> historical site, it will obviously be worth the vast increase in farming
>> productivity our state can experience.
>>
>> The land is not the fruits of anyone's labor. No one worked for it. It was here
>> before the human race was born. Sometimes someone traded the fruits of their
>> labor for an unrightful claim on the land. The land belongs to the people like
>> the sun, the moon, the sky and the stars.
>>
>>
>> http://www.bluecreekahpah.org/maps/ah-pah-dam.htm
>> "In the 1960s there was a plan to build a tall dam at Ah Pah on the Klamath River.
>> It would have covered the village site with 813 feet of water and would have
>> created a lake extending over 100 miles upriver, drowning much of the Yurok, Karuk
>> and Hupa territories."
>>
>> Well, they'll still have territory, someone should calculate how much. And a
>> beautiful lake. It will drown his village. "Upriver" means down South in this
>> case.
>>
>>
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Blue+Creek+Ah+Pah+Traditional+Yurok+Village/@41.4169958,-123.9414017,3195m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m12!1m6!3m5!1s0x0:0xcb79afdec79c83c0!2sBlue+Creek+Ah+Pah+Traditional+Yurok+Village!8m2!3d41.4169958!4d-123.9414017!3m4!1s0x0:0xcb79afdec79c83c0!8m2!3d41.4169958!4d-123.9414017
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>>
>>
>> So I guess the above map should also be showing the exact location of the Ah Pah
>> Dam over to the Right there. This River is flowing Up Northward. This river is
>> flowing from the South up.
>>
>> Reservoir Map:
>>
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9a/Ah_Pah_Dam_project%2C_Klamath_river%2C_1951.svg
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Some more about the poor Indian man who built a historic village:
>>
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/19/us/yurok-indian-traditions-to-be-revived-in-new-village.html
>>
>>
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>>
>> So maybe someone should ask him how much. Maybe he could have his village on a
>> mountain peak overlooking the lake. There should be enough in the huge Reservoir
>> budget that we can hopefully make everybody happy happy happy somehow.
>>
>> That is our goal. Fruitfulness and abundance and enrichment for all.
>>
>> Someone could give this to Trump. Then he could say: "It's going to be HUGE."
>>
>> It is. It is going to be huge.
>>
>> 15 Million acre feet of water compared to 4.5 Million in Lake Shasta and 2.5
>> Million in Lake Trinity. An addition of twice over what we have already. And it
>> can create energy. How much energy? I was going to figure that out, but that
>> would take another hour. How much energy does the State even use? Who knows? Why
>> don't State Legislators each have have 10 Analysts employed to work on stuff like
>> this, for $150,000-$200,000 per year (while making $300,000 themselves), so I can
>> just worry about my own industry and recreation while everything's run perfectly?
>>
>> Of course, it would probably be possible to let more the water run through, and
>> create a smaller reservoir. But why would we not do it right.
>>
>> And I don't care who takes credit for it. I just want water.
>>
>> Okay, but what it comes to, is there is a project that need to be done, there is
>> something that needs to be produced and completed. But you can do the same thing
>> for 1/10th the cost if you do it correctly. Not failing to do what needs doing,
>> but finding cheaper products and more economical solutions that are truly just as
>> good. I'm not saying you'll definitely do it for 1/10th the cost, but you could,
>> and you might do it for 1/2 or 1/4 the cost if you do it RIGHT!
>>
>> So it's poor to not do what you need. But it's poor to overpay or waste money
>> too. But you have to spend and allocate where spending and allocating is needed.
>>
>> So you have to know the value of things I guess.
>
>
> The Eel River could potentially be the next River to dam after the Klamath. The
> following project was suggested in 1967 (50 years ago), but I also wonder if it's
> possible there could be a place closer to the end of the river, allowing the River
> to be existent, until it almost reaches the ocean. Damming the Eel River would
> create a reservoir with 7.6 million acre feet of water, about the capacity of Lake
> Shasta and Lake Trinity combined. Perhaps we would want this project to be slated
> as a future project to keep in mind while we construct the Klamath Reservoir, in
> case it would connect to any infrastructure put in with the Klamath Reservoir.
>
> The Eel Reservoir:
> "In 1967, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers proposed to build an enormous dam just
> above the confluence of the Eel River and the Middle Fork Eel River at Dos Rios.
> The Dos Rios Dam would have been 730 feet (220 m) tall, creating a reservoir that
> covered 110,000 acres (450 km2) of land (including Round Valley, the Middle Fork
> Eel River watershed's primary agricultural area and also the location of the town
> of Covelo, plus the Round Valley Indian Reservation). If built, this dam would
> have diverted most of the flow of the river into the Central Valley for irrigation
> purposes. The project was defeated by outcry from local residents and the
> intervention of then-California governor Ronald Reagan. Reagan remarked, "Enough
> treaties had already been broken with the Indians"."
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_Fork_Eel_River "The Dos Rios Dam"
>
> I believe that suggested location at Dos Rios is here:
>
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Dos+Rios,+CA/@39.7152392,-123.3546281,849m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x8081e8ad9739a96b:0x5af6a08bd1e8da17!8m2!3d39.7169901!4d-123.3533599
>
>
> Where the middle fork reaches the Eel. A map of the entire Eel:
> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/56/Eelrivermap.png
>
> This is the end of Eel River dumping fresh water into the Sea:
>
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Eel+River/@40.6789729,-124.4660442,52923m/data=!3m1!1e3!4m5!3m4!1s0x54d411afed18126b:0x63d9915bf1af8462!8m2!3d40.575483!4d-124.2285489
>
>
>
> Here is a good map of all the rest of California's rivers - be sure to click
> "Zoom," Any of them may have potential for damming. Someone should look into
> this - especially the ones dumping fresh water into the Ocean:
>
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/14/California_rivers.jpg/1200px-California_rivers.jpg
>
>
> Link to dams in California: http://www.ppic.org/publication/dams-in-california/
>
> Also someone might look more into the problem with the Indians on the Eel river,
> and how to economically make them happy:
>
> The town of Covelo which the Reservoir may cover has only 1,255 people:
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Covelo,_California
> If necessary we might buy all these people off: $100,000 extra x 1,255 =
> $125,500,000. Don't know.
>
> And the Round Valley Indian Reservation has 300 people, 99 of whom live in Covelo:
>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Round_Valley_Indian_Tribes_of_the_Round_Valley_Reservation
>
>
> The closer the river is to the ocean, the more river we get until it reaches the
> Reservoir - if it matters.
>
>
> Here are 4 privately owned dams much higher up on the Klamath, that are currently
> probably going to be closed, I think this is because they are 100 years old and
> outdated, and no longer providing enough energy, I'm not sure. But this is
> probably good, as far as the Ah Pah Dam proposal at the end of the Klamath/Trinity
> river goes:
>
> https://media1.fdncms.com/northcoast/imager/u/original/3549945/klamath_map.jpg
>
>
> And finally, an article:
>
> But first, I must say, as partially related in the article;
> We have to always be building the State, and always increasing water capacity, and
> it all comes down to water and babies/immigrants, and then farms and schools. As
> well as other infrastructure. We could have a huge crane in major metropolitan
> areas and other things like that. But we should waste no money on the
> impoverishment of prohibition, or the punitiveness of draconian punishment for
> people who are less than crazy or organized murderous, and we should have a free
> country. We must teach our countrymen to be tolerant of others and not bigoted,
> and while wrong is not right, two wrongs do not make a right either. So we need
> to advocate and lead, and not condemn, except the criminally insane who are like
> those who have Ebola and must be healed. For we are getting nothing out of the
> purchase of punishment, except to combat the organized criminals and crazies who
> do not sufficiently respect others, and would establish an even worse government
> than we have today. However much of the problem comes from poverty and inequality
> of wealth. We must save capital for labor, but to be fair, we must help poor
> people to be industrious, and bring them up to improve their skills and
> intelligence. For instance, K-12 costs $650 billion in the U.S., making it K-14,
> through free community colleges, might only cost 16% more, and there really should
> just be free education for everyone through the graduate level. Likewise
> guaranteed jobs at the minimum wage, cash paid daily at the start, might alleviate
> much of the crime and necessary law enforcement our state is bereaved to
> experience. The minimum wage should keep going up for another 5 years past what's
> been so far legislated, as the $1 per year increase plan should be extended to
> another 5 years in the future, as inflation will have eaten away at it, by the
> time it finally gets to what it should be, and to make it a sufficiently high
> enough percentage of per capita GDP.
>
>
> Finally, the article (not written by me):
>
> Why California’s Drought Was Completely Preventable
>
>
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/417685/why-californias-drought-was-completely-preventable-victor-davis-hanson
>
>
> by VICTOR DAVIS HANSON April 30, 2015 12:00 AM @VDHANSON
>
> The present four-year California drought is not novel — even if President Barack
> Obama and California governor Jerry Brown have blamed it on man-made climate
> change. According to the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration,
> California droughts are both age-old and common. Predictable California dry spells
> — like those of 1929–34, 1976–77, and 1987–92 — are more likely result from poorly
> understood but temporary changes in atmospheric pressures and ocean temperatures.
> What is new is that the state has never had 40 million residents during a drought
> — well over 10 million more than during the last dry spell in the early 1990s.
> Much of the growth is due to massive and recent immigration. A record one in four
> current Californians was not born in the United States, according to the
> nonpartisan Public Policy Institute of California. Whatever one’s view on
> immigration, it is ironic to encourage millions of newcomers to settle in the
> state without first making commensurately liberal investments for them in water
> supplies and infrastructure. Sharp rises in population still would not have
> mattered much had state authorities just followed their forbearers’ advice to
> continually increase water storage. Environmentalists counter that existing dams
> and reservoirs have already tapped out the state’s potential to transfer water
> from the wet areas, where 75 percent of the snow and rain fall, to the dry
> regions, where 75 percent of the population prefers to reside. But that analysis
> is incomplete. After the initial phases of the federal Central Valley Project and
> state California Water Project were largely finished — and flooding was no longer
> considered a dire threat in Northern California — environmentalists in the last 40
> years canceled most of the major second- and third-stage storage projects. To take
> a few examples, they stopped the raising of Shasta Dam, the construction of the
> Peripheral Canal, and gargantuan projects such as the Ah Pah and Dos Rios
> reservoirs. Those were certainly massive, disruptive, and controversial projects
> with plenty of downsides — and once considered unnecessary in an earlier, much
> smaller California. But no one denies now that they would have added millions of
> acre-feet of water for 40 million people. Lower foothill dams such as the proposed
> Sites, Los Banos, and Temperance Flat dams in wet years would have banked millions
> of acre-feet as insurance for dry years. All such reservoirs were also canceled.
> Yet a single 1 million acre-foot reservoir can usually be built as cheaply as a
> desalinization plant. It requires a fraction of desalinization’s daily energy use,
> leaves a much smaller carbon footprint, and provides almost 20 times as much
> water. California could have built perhaps 40–50 such subsidiary reservoirs for
> the projected $68 billion cost of the proposed high-speed rail project.
> California’s dams and reservoirs were originally intended to meet four objectives:
> flood control, agricultural irrigation, recreation, and hydroelectric generation.
> The inevitable results of sustaining a large population and vibrant economy were
> dry summer rivers in the lowlands and far less water reaching the San Francisco
> Bay and delta regions. Yet state planners once accepted those unfortunate
> tradeoffs. They would never have envisioned in a state of 40 million using the
> reservoirs in a drought to release water year-round for environmental objectives
> such as aiding the delta smelt or reintroducing salmon in the San Joaquin River
> watershed. No one knows the exact figures on how many million acre-feet of water
> have been sent to the ocean since the beginning of the drought. Most agree that
> several million acre-feet slated for households or farming went out to sea. There
> is more irony in opposing the construction of man-made and unnatural reservoirs,
> only to assume that such existing storage water should be tapped to ensure
> constant, year-round river flows. Before the age of reservoir construction, when
> rivers sometimes naturally dried up, such an environmental luxury may have
> impossible during dry years. Agriculture is blamed for supposedly using 80 percent
> of California’s storage water and providing less than 5 percent of the state’s GDP
> in return. But farming actually uses only about 40 percent of the state’s
> currently available water. Agriculture’s contribution to the state’s GDP cannot be
> calibrated just by the sale value of its crops, but more accurately by thousands
> of subsidiary and spin-off industries such as fuel, machinery, food markets and
> restaurants that depend on the state’s safe, reliable and relatively inexpensive
> food. The recent rise of Silicon Valley has brought in more billions of dollars in
> revenue than century-old farming, but so far, no one has discovered how to eat a
> Facebook page or drink a Google search. Stanford University, Hollywood, and
> Silicon Valley do not sit on natural aquifers sufficient to support surrounding
> populations. Only privileged water claims on transfers from Yosemite National
> Park, the Central Sierra Nevada Mountains, Northern California, or the Colorado
> River allow these near-desert areas along the coastal corridor to support some 20
> million residents. Much of their imported water is used only once, not recycled,
> and sent out to sea. A final irony is that the beneficiaries of these man-made
> canals and dams neither allowed more water storage for others nor are willing to
> divert their own privileged water transfers to facilitate their own dreams of fish
> restoration. Nature may soon get back to normal — but will California? — Victor
> Davis Hanson is a classicist and historian at the Hoover Institution, Stanford
> University, and the author, most recently, of The Savior Generals. You can reach
> him by e-mailing aut...@victorhanson.com. © 2015 Tribune Media Services, Inc.
> ---------
>
> I hope this all has helped anything. Another factoid I found out when looking
> into the pipeline:
>
> Piped water is worth like a penny per gallon while oil's worth like a dollar per
> gallon, but that doesn't mean a water pipeline couldn't also possibly be made cost
> effective. I don't know.


Also, as the Ah Pah Dam on the Klamath will probably flood most of the Yurok's
Indian Reservation, we will just have to give the Indians some more land and make
the reservation bigger.


Another notable Wikipedia entry I don't think I included before:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Water_in_California

And a good map showing California Water Storage:
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7c/Water_in_California_new.png

Article on Aquifers:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aquifer
https://www.voanews.com/a/california-drought-aquifers/3960286.html


Central Valley Pro-Water Group I found:
http://familiesprotectingthevalley.com/

"Families Protecting the Valley (FPV) is committed to providing information about
California's water resources, California water policy and its impact on the
farming community, jobs and the economy. FPV is a coalition of farmers,
agriculture providers and community leaders in the San Joaquin Valley who find it
vital to promote the necessary resources and government policies that will provide
long-term agriculture jobs, a safe and reliable food and water supply, and
economic security for farmers.

California's water policy is about more than farmers. It's about jobs, schools,
families and our environment. The San Joaquin Valley is the #1 agriculture
producing area in the country and has the unique ability to provide a safe and
reliable food supply, which is essential to the California economy and long term
security of the United States."

"Currently, the San Joaquin Valley is in dire shape concerning water. The West
Side is being dried up to the point where many farm families are being put out of
business forever.

Current attacks on the Valley’s water take two forms. One is the view that water
is nothing but a commodity and must be sold to the highest bidder. This is a
foolhardy concept which, if followed, will condemn the United States to depend
upon foreign sources with unreliable health protections for its food supply.

The second attack comes from the fringe environmentalists who consistently take
water from agriculture either by court order or legislative action. Much of the
time, the water does not improve the situation for which it was ostensibly taken.
Nonetheless, elected officials, including some from the Valley, continue to look
the other way and have been woefully impotent in protecting this Valley."

California Water News: http://familiesprotectingthevalley.com/topstory-m-99-99.html

Opinion Newsletters: http://familiesprotectingthevalley.com/news-m-10-10.html

Interesting Public Responses:
http://familiesprotectingthevalley.com/responses-m-57-57.html

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Raising the Dam at Lake Shasta 200 feet instead of the previously proposed 20 will
add 10 million acre feet of Water.

The Klamath Reservoir will add 15 million acre feet of water.

The Eel Reservoir will add 7.5 million acre feet of water.

That is 32.5 million acre feet of water between the three.

Lake Mead and Lake Powell are the two largest reservoirs in the United States.
They each hold up to 25 million acre feet of water, but they are presently at 40%
capacity, each with 10 million acre feet of water, only 20 million acre feet of
water total between the two.

There is a drought every decade or so in California. Entire farms could die out.

The Federal Government needs to put in these reservoirs, like the Hoover Dam.
Farms are industry. Industry needs 100% facilitation to work. Farmers should not
have to worry about water, it should be like sunlight. The Federal government
water project is for farmers. The State water project is for drinking water. The
State dam is newer and nearly failed recently. 100,000 were evacuated. There
will be excess capacity from the Federal project diverted to State water use.

The above capacity numbers are capacity only. Someone should research how fast
these reservoirs would fill up relative to each other and see if the water
capacity numbers are really the most pertinent or not.

Here is pertinent intelligence accumulated so far:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/ca.water/y5tkrEW4Gkk

The California Central Valley produces one-third of all produce grown in the
United States.


Possible solutions that apparently aren't:
1. Oregon - the Columbia River separates the states of Washington and Oregon and
starts in British Columbia and empties tons of fresh water into the Ocean. All
the rivers in Oregon flow South to North. So unless you were going to float the
water down the coast in big tubes it's not liable to matter.
2. The Peripheral Canal was rejected by the voters. I think they thought it was
going to cause pollution.
3. Turning Salt Water into Fresh Water. Some Municipalities such as Carlsbad are
resorting to this, as is Australia. Is this really a cost effective solution?
Cost effectiveness may be all it comes to.

[Regulation Of Commerce]

On 4/19/2020 12:11 PM, Regulation Of Commerce wrote:
> Raising the Dam at Lake Shasta 200 feet instead of the previously proposed 20 will
> add 10 million acre feet of Water.

Cite:
https://www.nytimes.com/1979/01/18/archives/us-may-add-200-feet-to-a-coast-dam-cheaper-alternative.html

"Many possibilities for tapping more water from the rushing northern rivers are
under consideration. An increasingly plausible one, engineers say, would be to add
about 200 feet to the height of Shasta Dam. That would triple its storage capacity
to 14 million acre‐feet, more than one‐third of the state's annual consumption,
and would increase the reservoir's annual yield of four million acre‐feet some 25
percent." January 18, 1979

Actually, the San Diego County Water Authority, in Carlsbad.
https://www.sdcwa.org/seawater-desalination