Plano Priest Eats Bullet

[Unknown]

Dr. Kim Hall, the senior priest for Hunters Glen Baptist Church in Plano,
killed himself in a hotel room in Arkansas this week.
In addition to being the spiritual leader for thousands of Republicans, he
was a junkie who kept relapsing - over and over.

He tried to get help, but in the hateful and cruel world of Evangelical
Republicans, no such help was to be had.
So this week he did what any Republican would do - he took the coward's way
out.
He just up and left his family, went to a remote hotel room, partied his ass
off - and then shot himself in the head.

There was no regard for his family, or his friends, or the thousands of
Republicans who look to him for guidance.
There wasn't even any regard for the maid who would have to clean his brains
off the walls and carpets.
All this Republican could think of was how hard his own life was, and how
many problems he had.

[SMITH29]

xxxx
I will forward your post to the church legal council for review.

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[Unknown]

"SMITH29" <smi...@q.net> wrote in message
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> On 11/6/2011 5:55 PM, Sanders Kaufman wrote:
>> Dr. Kim Hall, the senior priest for Hunters Glen Baptist Church in
>> Plano, killed himself in a hotel room in Arkansas this week.
>> In addition to being the spiritual leader for thousands of Republicans,
>> he was a junkie who kept relapsing - over and over.

> xxxx
> I will forward your post to the church legal council for review.

They've got other priorities - like drug-testing and background-checks for
applicants to the job of "spiritual leader".

[SMITH29]

xxxx
Your post should pretty well put you in a good position to apply.

[Dr. Schad N. Freude]

Had he been a Catholic priest, he would have overdosed himself chewing
on choir boys dirty jocks and been found hanging by the straps around
his face in ecstasy. Probably voted Republican, too.

Hilarious how his obituary pretends that after suicide that old Jesus
is welcoming him home with open arms. No mention of his suicide at
all.

Then this second article describing "confusion" that other pastors
aren't rushing forward with kind remarks for a junkie who took the
cowards way out.

Christians can certainly be very un-Christian.

**************************************************
Kim Hall
| Visit Guest Book

Dr. Hall, Kim Dr. Kim Hall, beloved Pastor of Hunters Glen Baptist
Church of Plano went home to be with his Lord and Savior on October
21, 2011. Dr. Hall served faithfully at HGBC for more than 20 years.
The Mission Field was his passion, as evidenced in every aspect of his
ministry. He will be remembered as a Pastor and friend who loved the
church and the people in it. Prior to serving at Hunters Glen Dr. Hall
served at Emmanuel Baptist Church in Ruston, La. and Trinity Heights
Baptist Church in Shreveport, La. Kim earned his undergraduate degree
from Louisiana State University in Shreveport and his Masters and
Doctor of Ministry degrees from New Orleans Baptist Theological
Seminary. He has served churches in Louisiana and Mississippi during
his 35 years of ministry. Dr. Hall has served on the Executive Board
and the Mission Funding Committee of the Baptist General Convention of
Texas. He has served in numerous positions with the Collin Baptist
Association. He also has served as a chaplain for the Plano Police and
Fire Departments. He has been active in missions worldwide. He is the
founder of Advance International, which partners with New Orleans
Baptist Theological Seminary and the IMB to provide theological
education to Christian leaders in remote areas of the world. Dr. Hall
was preceded in death by his parents Dr. Luther & Floriene Hall. He is
survived by his loving wife and partner in the ministry Martha Miller
Hall, loving son Hunter Hall and wife Becky Merrick Hall, loving son
Daniel Hall and his fiancé Jessi James. Two beautiful grandchildren
Carson and Saige Hall, siblings; Gladden & Lydia Hall Willis, Bob &
Myrna Hall Tarver, David & Madeline Hall and Joey & Judy Hall and many
nieces and nephews. A Memorial Service will be held Tuesday, October
25th, 2:00 pm at Hunters Glen Baptist Church, 4001 Custer Road, Plano
In lieu of flowers, memorials & donations may be submitted online for
Advance International at www.2advance.org. For those wishing to send
checks, you may do so at Advance International C/O Phil Walker, 7469
Old Canton Road, Madison, MS 39110.



Published in Dallas Morning News on October 25, 2011

http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/dallasmorningnews/obituary.aspx?n=Kim-Hall&pid=154259461



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The Christian Post > Church & Ministries|Thu, Nov. 03 2011 10:25 AM
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Pastor Reacts to Silence After Suicide Death of 'Comrade'
By Alex Murashko | Christian Post Reporter
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An Oklahoma pastor and leader of a Christ-centered recovery group
exclusively for pastors and their spouses is shocked at the lack of
pastoral response to the apparent suicide death of a church leader in
Texas less than two weeks ago.

Hess Hester
(Photo: Hess Hester)
Pastor Hess Hester of Southern Hills Baptist Church in Tulsa, Ok.,
leads a support group specifically for pastors struggling with 'hurts,
habits, and hang-ups' as outlined in the Celebrate Recovery program,
November 2011.

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After recently hearing about the death of Pastor Kim Hall, who served
at Hunters Glen Baptist Church in Plano for 20 years, Pastor Hess
Hester of Southern Hills Baptist Church in Tulsa said he felt led to
address the problem some pastors may have in sharing personal issues.

Hall was found dead in a hotel room in the early morning of Oct. 22.
Plano police, who discovered the body, said they believe he died of a
self-inflicted gunshot, according to news reports.

“Frankly, I’ve been a bit astonished at the lack of any kind of
conversation or expressions of sympathy that I’ve seen,” Hester stated
in his blog post at Pastors.com. “Surely there are communities of
pastoral leadership out there where there have been. I just haven’t
seen it.”

“Regardless of whatever the circumstances were which led to Pastor
Hall taking his life, a comrade has fallen, a fellow warrior has gone
down, and it has been too quiet,” Hester continued. “We should be
talking about it. I don’t mean talk of speculation about why he may
have pulled the trigger, but why life had to arrive at such a painful
place that the desire to end his private pain was greater than his
desire to continue living and ministering.”

Hester told The Christian Post that he started Celebrate Pastors in
Recovery, a program based on Saddleback Church’s general Celebrate
Recovery ministry, six years ago in order for church leaders to feel
comfortable sharing just such pain. CR is based on biblical principles
combined with a version of the 12 Steps of Alcoholics Anonymous.

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“For years and years we continued to ignore the reality of the silent
pain that so many pastors go through and it is a silence sometimes of
their own choosing. They find it very difficult to find a safe place
in which to share whatever their pain may be,” Hester said.

“Six years ago I started Celebrate Pastors in Recovery under the
umbrella of Celebrate Recovery. It’s a tool for pastors to find a safe
place to share their pain, hang-ups, and habits,” he said. “When
something like this happens it’s a very stark, painful reminder of the
great need for it.”

Even though he implemented the CR program at his own church nearly 10
years ago, it wasn’t until Hester realized he had his own issues that
he launched the program for pastors.

“About four years into the process I entered into what I like to refer
to as my own perfect storm, [involving] personal, church staff, and
congregational issues,” Hester explained. “I just realized I need this
myself to deal with my own hurts, hang-ups, and habits. So I invited
local pastors to join with me in doing a 12-step group just for
pastors.”

The idea of having recovery groups exclusively for pastors and their
wives wasn’t met approvingly by some CR leaders, he said.

“Long-time CR people might ask, ‘Why can’t they be like the rest of us
and join a group and just open up?’ And my response is always [to ask]
‘have you ever been a pastor?’”

“The reason pastors need groups is that it is still rare to find a
church in which a pastor can feel completely safe in terms of his
confidentiality and his struggles and issues that he would want to
open up about,” Hester said. “If the church is doing Celebrate
Recovery then they are a leg up on the potential for that taking
place.”

Hester said he does not know how many CPR programs there are in the
United States, but he is continuing to develop the website,
cprpastors.com, as a place where pastors can connect and start groups
of their own.

“It’s an enormous need and for pastors and spouses of pastors,” he
said. “We are slowly seeing groups spring up and we are trying to
provide a central place where people can make contact and develop
groups in their area or unique nature of what we do.”

Celebrate Recovery was founded in 1991 by Pastor John Baker of
Saddleback Church in Lake Forest, Calif., with the approval of lead
pastor Rick Warren. The program has been adopted by churches, prisons
and ministries worldwide.


http://www.christianpost.com/news/pastor-reacts-to-silence-after-suicide-death-of-comrade-60288/

[Unknown]

"Dr. Schad N. Freude" <DrSchad...@Awwwwww.com> wrote in message >

>
> Then this second article describing "confusion" that other pastors
> aren't rushing forward with kind remarks for a junkie who took the
> cowards way out.

Well, the other author is a junkie, too.
Junkies always act all surprised when the rest of us stop falling for their
bullshit.

--
"She'll tell you she's an orphan,
After you met her family," - 20th century poet

[Deets]

"Sanders Kaufman" wrote in message
news:wUGtq.21852$t37....@newsfe14.iad...

A priest in a Baptist church?

You are smoking early!

[Kenny Juan Kaufman]

funny how you always seem to have inside information that no others
seem to have.
Do you have any proof that he was republican? A junkie? that he partied
his ass off?
Didn't think so, you never do. It's just your hatred of people, which
is understandable given you have no friends, no job, or never been
laid.
It's funny how hypocritical you lefties get, though. Typical,, but
funny none the less
Don't worry, though, there will be lots of people that will rejoice
when you die. I'm sure more than what will be at your funeral.
Hell, just the 3-4 here will be more than what will be at your funeral

[Mary Elizabeth Robinson]

First I would like you to know that even though I was personally hurt
by your bitterness, I still love you and just finished praying for
peace in your own soul.

I personally at more than one time in life have been at a place where
I wanted nothing more than to not exist and didn't have the guts to go
through with making an exit. So my opinion is ... such an act isn't
for the faint of heart nor the weak.

Now, I personally believe that reading something like the outrageous
blog you publicly published would be more hurtful to his loving family
than anything that pastor ever could've been capable of harming them
with.

I am pretty darn sure that politics weren't on his mind at the moment
he ended his suffering nor do I believe it factored at all in his
decision.

Obviously, he made some type of contact with someone to notify law
enforcement ensuring that an official (trained to mentally cope with
witnessing such scenes) would make the discovery rather than an
unsuspecting random maid. Likewise, specialized teams are put into
place to clean up crime scenes.

Finally .. we are all guilty of it at times, however my advice would
be to take special care with judgment on others. Unlike suicide, which
isn't written as unforgivable anywhere in the Bible, judgement of
others is plainly warned against..

1 Corinthians 4:5 Therefore judge nothing before the appointed time;
wait till the Lord comes. He will bring to light what is hidden in
darkness and will expose the motives of men's hearts. At that time
each will receive his praise from God.

John 5:24 New International Version (NIV)

24 Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who
sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over
from death to life.

Romans 14:10 You, then, why do you judge your brother or sister ? Or
why do you treat them with contempt? For we will all stand before
God’s judgment seat.

Romans 2:1 You, therefore, have no excuse, you who pass judgment on
someone else, for at whatever point you judge another, you are
condemning yourself, because you who pass judgment do the same things.

Romans 14:10 You, then, why do you judge your brother or sister ? Or
why do you treat them with contempt? For we will all stand before
God’s judgment seat.

... and there are many more ...

So find love in your heart and then pour it into the world and smile.
Because God loves you just as he does Dr Kim Hall!

[Kenny Juan Kaufman]

"Mary Elizabeth Robinson" <m.robin...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:fd2b3aaf-e2c4-462a...@d17g2000yql.googlegroups.com...

God may love him, but everyone else thinks/knows he's(kenny ray martin) an
asshole.

[Kenny Juan Kaufman]

"Deets" <cap...@lonesomedove.org> wrote in message
news:j98rm9$abm$1...@dont-email.me...

what else does sandy have to do?
it's not like he has a job and needs to be somewhere or has anybody that
depends on him.

[Dr. Schad N. Freude]

Thanks but Dr. Kim Hall believed all that you just spouted and yet he
still went ahead and killed himself.

Now how did God's love help him again? You really should try selling
something that works instead of something with a history of failing.

It sounds too much like a gambler sure if he drops his NEXT 100
dollars into the slot machine, it will pay off for sure !!!

In Hall's case, one bullet was more powerful than God.

[Dr. Schad N. Freude]

Anonymous assholes eat their own shit.

[Kenny Juan Kaufman]

"Dr. Schad N. Freude" <DrSchad...@Awwwwww.com> wrote in message

news:O8idnfaVPIA-7yXT...@giganews.com...

aww......did i hurt widdle kennys feelings.
here....suck on this exhaust pipe till the pain subsides, mkay?

[Mary Elizabeth Robinson]

On Nov 8, 2:05 am, Dr. Schad N. Freude <DrSchadNFre...@Awwwwww.com>
wrote:

> On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 12:02:47 -0800 (PST), Mary Elizabeth Robinson
>

>Oh sweetheart .. that is where you've got it very wrong .. NOTHING is more powerful than GOD. One day you will find this out. I pray your realization of God's power will be before you see it with your own eyes. However, choice in our actions is the thing that God purposely let's us control. And those choices we make..ONLY he will give us final judgement by. If God controlled every action man made.. we would all merely be sinless puppets. But as you know, the world is full of sinners .. every single one of us. The profound beauty in it lies in how simple and with astonishing grace we are forgiven when we ask to be.

[Unknown]

"Mary Elizabeth Robinson" <m.robin...@gmail.com> wrote in message

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>
> Now, I personally believe that reading something like the outrageous
> blog you publicly published would be more hurtful to his loving family
> than anything that pastor ever could've been capable of harming them
> with.

I don't really care if a bunch of religious freaks and junkies get their
feelings hurt.
And really, neither did Dr. Hill.
After all, he was the spiritual leader for some of the most callous people
in this country - Plano Republicans.

We all told those Republicans, "you shouldn't follow someone like that" and
they didn't hear us.
They just kept listening to him preaching politics, and then going out and
voting Republican.
We said, "People like him aren't right in the head" - but they didn't want
to hear us.
They wanted to listen to the suicide junkie - because to them, he seemed
perfectly rational... even wise in his way.

It turns out that we were right - he wasn't right in the head and y'all were
wrong to follow him.
He was just another junkie.

[Unknown]

"Dr. Schad N. Freude" <DrSchad...@Awwwwww.com> wrote in message
>

> In Hall's case, one bullet was more powerful than God.

True dat.

[Unknown]

"Mary Elizabeth Robinson" <m.robin...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>The profound beauty in it lies in how simple and with astonishing grace we
>are forgiven when we ask to be.

That's one of those things that American Christians say, but that is
contradicted by actual Christian doctrine.
In Christianity, the real rule is that you are forgiven if you "accept
Jesus", not just when you "ask".
There's some other stuff you have to do, as well - like to actually repent
your sins, instead of just rationalizing your sins with that "we're all
sinners" and "everybody does it" excuse.

Of course, Dr. Hill and the other Evangelical Republicans don't talk about
that stuff.
They've got a new, improved version of Christianity - better than the one
god gave them.

[Dr. Schad N. Freude]

On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 20:59:34 -0800 (PST), Mary Elizabeth Robinson
<m.robin...@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Nov 8, 2:05 am, Dr. Schad N. Freude <DrSchadNFre...@Awwwwww.com>
>wrote:
>> On Mon, 7 Nov 2011 12:02:47 -0800 (PST), Mary Elizabeth Robinson
>>
>>Oh sweetheart .. that is where you've got it very wrong .. NOTHING is more powerful than GOD. One day you will find this out. I pray your realization of God's power will be before you see it with your own eyes. However, choice in our actions is the thing that God purposely let's us control. And those choices we make..ONLY he will give us final judgement by. If God controlled every action man made.. we would all merely be sinless puppets. But as you know, the world is full of sinners .. every single one of us. The profound beauty in it lies in how simple and with astonishing grace we are forgiven when we ask to be.

Oh, please. Did you even have a real father to know what it is like
to be loved? If he just stood by and, oh say, watched you get gang
raped to death while muttering:

"Now if I stepped in and helped, it would deprive you of your power of
choice. Oh, and I forgot to tell you but you somehow sinned against
me by being born. Despite the fact that I created you, I'm holy and
you are shit. Now, if you beg my forgiveness for your existing, I'll
forgive you. I don't lift a finger to help you NOW or EVER until the
day you die. Now, love me or I'll damn you to hell. If you do beg my
salvation, your reward is that you get to spend all eternity after
death with a stupid, arrogant, vain, jealous bastard like me who can't
even love himself without creating people to torture until they
worship my shit. Oh, and rapists...have a nice day."

...I'm sure you'd bow your head like a coward instead of giving him
the reward he deserves for being a deadbeat daddy...God deserves a
jagged rusty Bowie knife kicked up his ass and out his throat.

Damn God the Father, Damn his Son Jesus, Damn the Holy Ghost.

God = Satan.

Amen.

HTH.

[Dr. Schad N. Freude]

The Third Testament: Now, that's the Mormons.

Arabs look at Jews and think they are nuts.

Jews look at Christians and think they are nuts.

Christians look at Mormons and think they are nuts.

Mormons look at everyone else and think they are nuts.

To win at religion, it seems that you must become more cultish until
Gawwwwd himself butterfly kisses your very ear with his "secret"
wisdom.

[Kenny Juan Kaufman]

telling little story, kenny.
did *your* daddy tell you you somehow sinned against
him by being born. Despite the fact that he created you, I'm holy and
you are shit. Did he also let be raped by the choir? Makes sense why
you're so fucked up
But then again, if I had a worthless son like yourself, I;d pimp his
lazy fuckin ass out too

[Kenny Juan Kaufman]

Try typing with BOTH hands, masturbator. Damn, you're gay. I bet
you'd love to be the spoke in the wheel for all us liberals to plug.

[Kenny Juan Kaufman]

"Kenny Juan Kaufman" <punkas...@martin.com> wrote in message
news:BeqdnYOAmsL0-iTT...@giganews.com...

hit a little close to home, huh kenny boi.
I'm not surprised you fantasize about pluggin asses
LMAO at the mentally damaged halfwit

[SMITH29]

xxxx
We? You have a turd in your pocket?

[Paul Ryan's Lyin']

Now don't go getting uppity, you anonymous little fag. You know your
gay ass is just itching for some lube right now. You probably go out
at night down back alleys on the bad side of town, insult everyone
standing there, then pull your pants down and bend over and scream,
"I've been a bad boy, rape my conservative man pussy bloody, you
scum." Then you limp home and post here in triumph.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

[Kenny Juan Kaufman]

"Paul Ryan's Lyin'"
<BorrowAndSpendRe...@GOPBudgetForRichCorporations.com> wrote in
message news:BeqdnbiAmsLiFCTT...@giganews.com...

you really don't need to share your fantasies with the group.
You're really well versed in the goings on in the gay lifestyle.
I mean really, what kind of fucked up indivdual thinks the way you do.
It really explains alot about why your father disowned you for your gay
lifestyle/tendencies, though.
Don't worry though, there are lots of gays out there that love to dominate
fat white country boys such as yourself.
And whats even better is that you'll find them in the democratic party, very
convenient for you.
there hope for you yet

[Kenny Juan Kaufman]

On Tue, 8 Nov 2011 14:52:42 -0600, "Kenny Juan Kaufman"

Awwwww, at tonight's conservative gay human lawn dart marathon, you
can curse all you want with fifty peckers thrown in ya and all that
green grass burn on your forehead. Who says a repuke isn't green?