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Tom

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Feb 6, 2005, 10:48:53 PM2/6/05
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That's not all he's going to do. He plans to limit, if not outlaw class
action lawsuits in the United States. Corporations will not be held
responsible for products or services which are harmfull to American
citizens.
-------------------------
President Bush, State of the Union address, February 3, 2005:
-------------------------
"To make our economy stronger and more dynamic, we must prepare a rising
generation to fill the jobs of the 21st century. Under the No Child Left
Behind Act, standards are higher, test scores are on the rise, and we're
closing the achievement gap for minority students. Now we must demand
better results from our high schools, so every high school diploma is a
ticket to success. We will help an additional 200,000 workers to get
training for a better career, by reforming our job training system and
strengthening America's community colleges. And we'll make it easier for
Americans to afford a college education, by increasing the size of Pell
Grants. To make our economy stronger and more competitive, America must
reward, not punish, the efforts and dreams of entrepreneurs. Small
business is the path of advancement, especially for women and
minorities, so we must free small businesses from needless regulation
and protect honest job-creators from junk lawsuits. Justice is
distorted, and our economy is held back by irresponsible class-actions
and frivolous asbestos claims -- and I urge Congress to pass legal
reforms this year."

Karen Gordon wrote:
> (K): How long did that take?...... two weeks after his re-inauguration?
> The cuts to the average American's security are going to be coming fast and
> furious. Thanks to 51% of Americans who gave this bastard ANOTHER chance
> to screw Americans while invading other countries for fun and profit.
> 51% of you deserve what this guy does to you.
> _______________________________
>
> Sun Feb 6, 2005 05:58 PM ET
>
> Bush Budget Aims to Cut Many Domestic Programs
>
>
> WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush on Monday will propose his tightest
> budget, cutting scores of domestic programs from housing to environmental
> protection to show he is serious about reining in deficits that have
> ballooned under his watch.
>
> Bush's $2.5 trillion budget for fiscal 2006 will also begin to slow the
> rapid growth of homeland security and defense spending, albeit only
> slightly, after a post-Sept. 11, 2001, surge.
>
> More than 150 federal programs are set to be slashed or eliminated, <===
> including subsidies for the Amtrak intercity rail system, setting the
> stage for a fierce battle between the White House and congressional
> Democrats over spending priorities.
>
> "This is the tightest budget that has been submitted since we got here,"
> Vice President Dick Cheney told Fox News on Sunday.
> [....]
>
> Non-defense, non-homeland-security discretionary programs would be nearly
> frozen at less than 1 percent growth. Unable to keep pace with inflation,
> they would effectively face cuts from 2005 levels.
>
> Bush's goal: to show his fiscal conservative base and the financial
> markets that he is on track to cut the deficit in half by 2009 from a $521
> billion forecast made early in 2004.
>
> Sources said Bush, who inherited surpluses when he came to office in 2001,
> is expected to forecast a deficit of about $230 billion in fiscal 2009,
> when his successor takes office. <====
>
> But critics say his budget will mask the true picture because it leaves
> out future costs of military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan and
> massive borrowing required by his plan to add private retirement accounts
> to Social Security.
>
> Fiscal conservatives also questioned Bush's resolve to cut outlays given
> that he has never used his veto power to block a spending bill.
>
> They complained that the proposed caps would only affect about one-sixth
> of federal spending since discretionary spending does not include
> automatic payments like Social Security and Medicare.
>
> "With the deficits that we're now running, I'm glad the president is
> coming over with a very austere budget," said Sen. John McCain, an Arizona
> Republican. "I hope we in Congress will have the courage to support it."
>
> Bush's budget has few clear-cut winners.
>
> He will propose a roughly $2 billion increase in spending for the <====
> Department of Homeland Security, to $34.2 billion. But that increase is
> less than last year's and Democrats said the department, charged with
> stemming terrorist attacks, is being shortchanged.
>
> While the Pentagon would get more than an $18 billion increase to $419.3
> billion, that is less than what Bush had planned a year ago for fiscal
> 2006. And the 4.8 percent growth rate for 2006 is smaller than the 7
> percent boost in military spending he requested for fiscal 2005.
>
> The Defense Department plans to cut previously budgeted arms purchases by
> $6 billion in fiscal 2006 and nearly $30 billion through 2011. But any
> belt-tightening may be offset by more spending on Iraq and Afghanistan.
>
> Within just a few days, Bush plans to ask for another $80 billion to fund
> the conflicts for this year, on top of the $25 billion already provided <===
> for 2005. Another large supplemental funding request for the war in Iraq
> is expected to be sent to Congress next year.
>
> Bush is already bracing for a backlash.
>
> Defense lobbyists and their congressional allies will fight for their
> weapons systems.
>
> On the domestic front, plans to cut farm programs by $587 million and
> lower the limit on annual crop subsidy payments per farmer to $250,000
> will put Bush at odds with growers in the South, a key constituency.
>
> He may face a revolt from states over plans for $45 billion in savings on
> the Medicaid health care program for the poor.
>
> Plans to slash community housing, Amtrak and the Environmental Protection
> Agency will also face resistance.
>
> Cheney called the proposed cuts "fair, reasonable, responsible... It's not
> something we've done with a meat ax..."
> ____________________________________
>
> (K): Bloody liar. Bloody government. Bloody Americans who voted them in.
> --
> """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""
> A truth spoken before its time is dangerous
> """"""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

--
"Of course we have to steal, cheat, lie and murder...
After all, We stand for everything good in this world!"
- Don Adams (Maxwell Smart)

John

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Feb 6, 2005, 10:49:22 PM2/6/05
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"Karen Gordon" <ar...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote in message
news:cu6o1f$7te$1...@theodyn.ncf.ca...

>
>>> (K): How long did that take?...... two weeks after his re-inauguration?
>>> The cuts to the average American's security are going to be coming fast
>>> and
>>> furious. Thanks to 51% of Americans who gave this bastard ANOTHER
>>> chance
>>> to screw Americans while invading other countries for fun and profit.
>>> 51% of you deserve what this guy does to you.
>
> Lion aka Pulver aka Hairy Fish aka Paul Rodgers, etc. (li...@lionlion.web)
> writes:
>> I can't wait for the so-called "Capitalists" whining and grieving about
>> layoffs in the defence industry when the pork is cut. The Horror! The
>> Horror!
>>
>> The cuts should be welcome, but the question remains if they will be.
>
> (K): Depends on whether you live in a vacuum immune to the cuts. Or
> whether you have a grandmother who will be told to invest in stocks to
> invest in her old age - rather than depend on old age security.

So your counsel is that we all should do nothing and depend on Old Age
Security?

Sheesh....!

Neal Atkins

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Feb 6, 2005, 10:56:11 PM2/6/05
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On 7 Feb 2005 03:08:54 GMT, ar...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Karen Gordon)
wrote:

>More than 150 federal programs are set to be slashed or eliminated, <===

YAY! Only 177,673 to go!

Johnny Latley

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Feb 6, 2005, 11:01:00 PM2/6/05
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then they scream when Bush tries to cut the defecit. You cant please
radlibs, you can only get rid of them one election at a time like we have
been for 11 years.


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Judy Teshima

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Feb 6, 2005, 11:21:43 PM2/6/05
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"Karen Gordon" <ar...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote in message
news:cu6m46$6je$1...@theodyn.ncf.ca...

>
> (K): How long did that take?...... two weeks after his re-inauguration?
> The cuts to the average American's security are going to be coming fast
> and
> furious. Thanks to 51% of Americans who gave this bastard ANOTHER chance
> to screw Americans while invading other countries for fun and profit.
> 51% of you deserve what this guy does to you.
> _______________________________
>
> Sun Feb 6, 2005 05:58 PM ET
>
> Bush Budget Aims to Cut Many Domestic Programs
>
>
> WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Bush on Monday will propose his tightest
> budget, cutting scores of domestic programs from housing to environmental
> protection to show he is serious about reining in deficits that have
> ballooned under his watch.
>
> Bush's $2.5 trillion budget for fiscal 2006 will also begin to slow the
> rapid growth of homeland security and defense spending, albeit only
> slightly, after a post-Sept. 11, 2001, surge.
>
> More than 150 federal programs are set to be slashed or eliminated, <===

Neal Atkins

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Feb 6, 2005, 11:45:44 PM2/6/05
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On 7 Feb 2005 04:10:12 GMT, ar...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Karen Gordon)
wrote:

>
>ar...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Karen Gordon) wrote:
>>>More than 150 federal programs are set to be slashed or eliminated, <===
>

>Neal Atkins (NAt...@grande.com) writes:
>> YAY! Only 177,673 to go!
>

>(K): No grandmother?

No, I sprang fully formed from the brow of Zeus.

> And in perfect health all the way to your grave?

I know this may shock you, but I have my OWN INSURANCE! And the good
nanny state didn't give me my house, car or food.

>Lucky you. Otherwise you would have been hurting like hell under the
>Bush agenda.

get a job

JimK

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Feb 7, 2005, 1:57:24 AM2/7/05
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On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 23:01:00 -0500, "Johnny Latley" <I live in a
Kentucky Shack & eat dog shit .com> wrote:

>then they scream when Bush tries to cut the defecit. You cant please
>radlibs, you can only get rid of them one election at a time like we have
>been for 11 years.
>

Mr. Bush is going to bankrupt this country. His political motivated
selfish tax cuts are going to put a terrible burden on our children.

Mr. Bush, have you no shame

-----Date-------------------------Debt---------------------------Real_Deficit---------
(4 Months)
02/03/2005 $7,616,792,798,166.73 $237,740,101,836.41

(12 months projected first 4 months fiscal 2005)
9/30/2005 $7,616,792,798,166.73 $713,220,305,509.23
9/30/2004 $7,379,052,696,330.32 $595,821,633,586.70
9/30/2003 $6,783,231,062,743.62 $554,995,097,146.46
9/30/2002 $6,228,235,965,597.16 $420,772,553,397.10
9/28/2001 $5,807,463,412,200.06 $133,285,202,313.20
9/29/2000 $5,674,178,209,886.86 $17,907,308,271.43
9/30/1999 $5,656,270,901,615.43 $130,077,892,717.81
9/30/1998 $5,526,193,008,897.62 $113,046,997,500.28
9/30/1997 $5,413,146,011,397.34 $188,335,072,261.61
9/30/1996 $5,224,810,939,135.73 $250,828,038,426.34
9/29/1995 $4,973,982,900,709.39 $281,232,990,696.07
9/30/1994 $4,692,749,910,013.32 $281,261,026,873.94
9/30/1993 $4,411,488,883,139.38 $346,868,227,617.72
9/30/1992 $4,064,620,655,521.66 $399,317,303,824.63
9/30/1991 $3,665,303,351,697.03 $431,989,899,919.78
9/28/1990 $3,233,313,451,777.25 $375,882,491,589.93
9/29/1989 $2,857,430,960,187.32 $255,093,248,146.16
9/30/1988 $2,602,337,712,041.16 $252,060,821,088.16
9/30/1987 $2,350,276,890,953.00
http://www.publicdebt.treas.gov/opd/opdpenny.htm

Bullock

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Feb 7, 2005, 4:09:57 AM2/7/05
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"Karen Gordon" <ar...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote in message
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>
> (K): How long did that take?...... two weeks after his re-inauguration?
> The cuts to the average American's security are going to be coming fast
and
> furious. Thanks to 51% of Americans who gave this bastard ANOTHER chance
> to screw Americans while invading other countries for fun and profit.
> 51% of you deserve what this guy does to you.

FUCK THE FUCKERS THAT YOU ARE WITH AND HAIL TO THE FIGHTERS THAT YOU ARE
AGAINST YOU FUCKING TWINKIE INFESTED PIECE OF SHIT....


James H. Hood

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Feb 7, 2005, 2:28:05 PM2/7/05
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Johnny Latley <I live in a Kentucky Shack & eat dog shit .com> wrote in
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> then they scream when Bush tries to cut the defecit. You cant please
> radlibs, you can only get rid of them one election at a time like we
have
> been for 11 years.

karen is the worst kind of radlib.....a radlib in a socialist land
commenting on another country's domestic issues.


The PhAnToM

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Feb 7, 2005, 3:33:24 PM2/7/05
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JimK wrote:
> On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 23:01:00 -0500, "Johnny Latley" <I live in a
> Kentucky Shack & eat dog shit .com> wrote:
>
> >then they scream when Bush tries to cut the defecit. You cant
please
> >radlibs, you can only get rid of them one election at a time like
we have
> >been for 11 years.
> >
>
> Mr. Bush is going to bankrupt this country. His political motivated
> selfish tax cuts are going to put a terrible burden on our children.
>
> Mr. Bush, have you no shame

I was told the same thing when I was in high school 20 years ago. Still
waiting for this "burden" to hit me.

news...@newsfeeds.com

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Feb 7, 2005, 3:56:09 PM2/7/05
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"......I was told the same thing when I was in high school 20 years ago......"

The debt was not the same 20 years ago.
The current debt is the deepest in the history of the U.S.A.
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Central bank leaders warn Bush over massive deficits
____________________________________________________________


From The Associated Press, 2/5/05:
http://www.kfor.com/Global/story.asp?S=2904841

Central bank leaders warn U-S over massive deficits

LONDON

The Group of Seven finance ministers are preparing to meet in London
-- and one of the topics of discussion will be America's budget and
trade deficits.

Some of the world's major central bankers are warning the U.S. the
international community could be running out of patience.

They say America's red ink is pushing the dollar lower and increasing
the cost of their exports to America.
____________________________________________________________
Harry
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If the Bush economy is really a success......
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Why does he need to borrow money from socialist countries ?


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YOB

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> If the Bush economy is really a success......
> Why does he need to borrow money from socialist countries ?

The Communist Chinese own most of the US paper now and Bush has devalued
the dollar so much that people don't want anymore of it. That means that
the USA will find it increasingly harder to find easy loans.

The Right Wingers in the USA refuse to accept responsibility for their own
costs, yet bellow about self reliance as being the code of the Republican
philosophy. They are hypocrites who are borrowing and spending like
there's no tomorrow yet refusing to pay for it through taxes. The selfish
right wingers just want the debt load to sit on the shoulders of their
descendants and only think of themselves. They will reap what they sow,
the ignorant hypocrite cunts.

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