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Re: KKKommie California wants to end sales of new gas cars by 2035. Here are 4 key roadblocks

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OIL

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Aug 28, 2022, 12:30:02 AM8/28/22
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In article <t10rta$2nt6i$8...@news.freedyn.de>
<governo...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Get rid of Democrats. Hang them all.
>

California wants to drive a stake into the heart of gas-powered
vehicles.

State regulators approved a policy Thursday that will ban the
sale of new gas cars by 2035 in what is the country's largest
auto market.

It's part of an ambitious plan to fight climate change by
accelerating the transition to an electric future, and it's a
decision a handful of states are expected to follow.

Despite the strong demand for electric cars, sales made up only
3% of total car sales last year.

The race now is for automakers to increase the production of
electric vehicles, but that alone won't be enough.

Analysts say the industry faces several challenges in ending
sales of gas-powered cars by 2035.

Electric vehicles are still really expensive
The average price of an electric vehicle is currently $66,000 —
well beyond the means of many people.

"That's not going to fit in a lot of people's monthly budgets at
this point in time," says Jessica Caldwell, executive director
of Insights at Edmunds. "They [automakers] have to introduce the
more expensive, more costly, higher-margin vehicles first to
make the money to start to finance some of the lower-cost
vehicles."

Car companies like Chevrolet and General Motors are aiming to
release more-affordable options in the coming years. A key
provision of President Biden's Inflation Reduction Act also
provides a revamped $7,500 tax credit when buying a new electric
car, although it has a number of caveats.

But to make cars more affordable, electric vehicles will need to
make batteries more cost-effective.

"The batteries are simply more expensive than the internal
combustion engine," says Carla Bailo, president and CEO of the
Center for Automotive Research. "Most manufacturers are saying
by 2025 batteries will be on par with the cost of an internal
combustion engine and when that happens, that will definitely
help bring the price down."

However, making batteries cheaper presents another challenge.

China dominates the critical minerals market
China currently dominates the rare earth mineral market and the
auto industry has long relied on the country to source EV
batteries.

The Biden administration is pushing automakers to reduce their
dependence on China, but that's easier said than done.

"Something in the order of about 90% of the lithium that's used
in batteries is processed in China right now, which is not a
desirable situation," says Sam Abuelsamid, an analyst with
Guidehouse Insights.

And finding new sources or partners won't be easy.

"Obtaining minerals from places with which we have trade
agreements is going to be the biggest challenge because there's
huge competition for that," says Michelle Krebs, executive
analyst with Cox Automotive. "Everybody's scrambling to cut
deals for the minerals."

But even if companies are able to ramp up production, they could
run into another problem.

The EV infrastructure is still pretty limited
Not only are there too few charging stations across the country,
many existing stations don't always work.

A recent survey by J.D. Power found that the limited
availability and reliability of charging stations is a key
factor holding people back from buying electric vehicles.

The federal government is spending $7.5 billion to expand the
country's charging infrastructure.

But even if it gets there, it's not clear how much an already
fragile and vulnerable electric grid can handle.

Then, there's another hurdle.

Adjusting the auto industry's workforce
Embracing an electric future and accelerating the mass adoption
of electric vehicles will require automakers to adjust their
workforce.

Companies will need engineers with a different set of skills for
this transition.

"They're not going to be designing new transmissions, but
instead they need people with the skills to design electric
motors and electrical architectures," says Abuelsamid.

Analysts expect to see companies lay off some workers while
hiring in departments geared toward electric vehicles in the
coming years.

From ramping up production to revamping the workforce, the
transition is unlikely to be a smooth process for buyers,
drivers and — especially — the auto industry, but transitions
rarely are.

"They're bumpy and I think there are going to be some things
that are unpredictable," says Krebs. "So buckle up."

Socialist unions will stop this as soon as they see the light$
start going out.

https://www.npr.org/2022/08/27/1119360031/california-gas-cars-
electric-cars-zero-emission-climate-change

David Hartung

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Aug 28, 2022, 8:15:00 AM8/28/22
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This is going to be interesting to watch.

Siri Cruise

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Aug 28, 2022, 9:40:07 AM8/28/22
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In article <sCydnYimj-igwZb-...@giganews.com>,
David Hartung <da...@Hotmail.com> wrote:

> > China currently dominates the rare earth mineral market and the

Not much longer. Nevada and California are moving to compete.

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Aug 28, 2022, 4:03:35 PM8/28/22
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On Sun, 28 Aug 2022 06:29:14 +0200 (CEST), " OIL " <o...@latimes.com>
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>California wants to drive a stake into the heart of gas-powered
>vehicles.

Good.

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Aug 28, 2022, 4:04:59 PM8/28/22
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On Sun, 28 Aug 2022 06:40:04 -0700, Siri Cruise <chine...@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>In article <sCydnYimj-igwZb-...@giganews.com>,
> David Hartung <da...@Hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>> > China currently dominates the rare earth mineral market and the
>
>Not much longer. Nevada and California are moving to compete.

I dunno. Perhaps it would be better to use up China's supply and save
ours for later. You know, the way we treat the ANWR.

Klaus Schadenfreude

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Aug 28, 2022, 4:20:01 PM8/28/22
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On Sun, 28 Aug 2022 16:01:50 -0400, governo...@gmail.com wrote:

>On Sun, 28 Aug 2022 06:29:14 +0200 (CEST), " OIL " <o...@latimes.com>
>wrote:
>
>>California wants to drive a stake into the heart of gas-powered
>>vehicles.
>
>Good.

You'll be singing a different tune when you have to charge your car
with this

https://www.amazon.com/Pedal-Power-Bicycle-Generator-Emergency/dp/B003GJL6GO

governo...@gmail.com

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Aug 28, 2022, 7:02:53 PM8/28/22
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This prediction will go the same way as all dire predictions made by
partisans - into the trash bin of history.

David Hartung

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Aug 28, 2022, 9:00:31 PM8/28/22
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On 8/28/22 18:01, governo...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sun, 28 Aug 2022 13:19:58 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
> <klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 28 Aug 2022 16:01:50 -0400, governo...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun, 28 Aug 2022 06:29:14 +0200 (CEST), " OIL " <o...@latimes.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> California wants to drive a stake into the heart of gas-powered
>>>> vehicles.
>>>
>>> Good.
>>
>> You'll be singing a different tune when you have to charge your car
>> with this
>>
>> https://www.amazon.com/Pedal-Power-Bicycle-Generator-Emergency/dp/B003GJL6GO
>
> This prediction will go the same way as all dire predictions made by
> partisans - into the trash bin of history.

You do realize that you are as partisan as they come?

governo...@gmail.com

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Aug 28, 2022, 10:08:50 PM8/28/22
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On Sun, 28 Aug 2022 20:00:24 -0500, David Hartung <da...@Hotmail.com>
wrote:
I'm not the one sitting in my armchair comfortably predicting
bullshit.

Klaus Schadenfreude

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Aug 29, 2022, 6:45:40 AM8/29/22
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On Sun, 28 Aug 2022 19:01:10 -0400, governo...@gmail.com wrote:

>On Sun, 28 Aug 2022 13:19:58 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
><klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 28 Aug 2022 16:01:50 -0400, governo...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 28 Aug 2022 06:29:14 +0200 (CEST), " OIL " <o...@latimes.com>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>>California wants to drive a stake into the heart of gas-powered
>>>>vehicles.
>>>
>>>Good.
>>
>>You'll be singing a different tune when you have to charge your car
>>with this
>>
>>https://www.amazon.com/Pedal-Power-Bicycle-Generator-Emergency/dp/B003GJL6GO
>
>This prediction will go the same way as all dire predictions made by
>partisans

LOL

Partisans!

LOL

governo...@gmail.com

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Aug 29, 2022, 7:43:30 PM8/29/22
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On Mon, 29 Aug 2022 03:45:34 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
<klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 28 Aug 2022 19:01:10 -0400, governo...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 28 Aug 2022 13:19:58 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
>><klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 28 Aug 2022 16:01:50 -0400, governo...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 28 Aug 2022 06:29:14 +0200 (CEST), " OIL " <o...@latimes.com>
>>>>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>California wants to drive a stake into the heart of gas-powered
>>>>>vehicles.
>>>>
>>>>Good.
>>>
>>>You'll be singing a different tune when you have to charge your car
>>>with this
>>>
>>>https://www.amazon.com/Pedal-Power-Bicycle-Generator-Emergency/dp/B003GJL6GO
>>
>>This prediction will go the same way as all dire predictions made by
>>partisans
>
>LOL
>
>Partisans!
>
>LOL

If you don't understand that word, you can flush too.

Klaus Schadenfreude

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Aug 30, 2022, 6:17:09 AM8/30/22
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On Mon, 29 Aug 2022 19:41:45 -0400, governo...@gmail.com wrote:

>On Mon, 29 Aug 2022 03:45:34 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
><klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>On Sun, 28 Aug 2022 19:01:10 -0400, governo...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>>>On Sun, 28 Aug 2022 13:19:58 -0700, Klaus Schadenfreude
>>><klaus.schadenfreude.entfernen.@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Sun, 28 Aug 2022 16:01:50 -0400, governo...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Sun, 28 Aug 2022 06:29:14 +0200 (CEST), " OIL " <o...@latimes.com>
>>>>>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>California wants to drive a stake into the heart of gas-powered
>>>>>>vehicles.
>>>>>
>>>>>Good.
>>>>
>>>>You'll be singing a different tune when you have to charge your car
>>>>with this
>>>>
>>>>https://www.amazon.com/Pedal-Power-Bicycle-Generator-Emergency/dp/B003GJL6GO
>>>
>>>This prediction will go the same way as all dire predictions made by
>>>partisans
>>
>>LOL
>>
>>Partisans!
>>
>>LOL
>
>If you don't understand that word, you can flush too.

I think you just learned it and was looking for a way to use it.

LOL
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