Is Michael J. Vandeman PhD a Fraud?
Kayak44
outed as a fraud? Is he one of those people who feel they can do as
they please while telling others they should do things differently?
Michael J. Vandeman, PhD, please explain to us why you use commercial
air travel when you claimed that aircraft were just convenient for
people who don't care about the environment.
In regards to aircraft being essential for conservation, you wrote:
"BS. Not "essential", just "convenient" for people who don't care
about the environment. What do you think we did before the airplane
was invented? Darwin did the most for wildlife, and never flew in an
airplane. The view from the air is BS. It ALWAYS has to be "ground-
truthed" anyway. You are just embarrassed to be caught in your own
HYPOCRISY."
You ask what we did before the airplane was invented and yet you take
commercial airlines to environmental conferences around the globe. Why
didn't you do as Darwin did and take a sailing ship? Why are you such
a hypocrite when it comes to your own conveince? Do you not care about
the environment like you accused others who use airplanes? Is it
different for you for some reason?
leona...@gmail.com
> Why does Michael J. Vandeman avoid the airline question? Will he be
> outed as a fraud? Is he one of those people who feel they can do as
> they please while telling others they should do things differently?
•• I don't think so, but he is spamming several groups
Jeff Strickland
"Kayak44" <s200ho...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:8650860d-eb5b-4702...@d10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
> Why does Michael J. Vandeman avoid the airline question? Will he be
> outed as a fraud? Is he one of those people who feel they can do as
> they please while telling others they should do things differently?
>
His PhD came from an online school, they sell the program for $50.
Jym Dyer
=v= You may not like what the guy has to say, but it is on-topic
for these newsgroups. Constant insincere _ad_hominem_ needling
about "environmentalism" and airplanes is not only ineffective,
it's completely off-topic. Time to give it a rest.
> His PhD came from an online school, they sell the program
> for $50.
=v= Similarly, spreading outright falsehoods is nothing but
a waste of time.
<_Jym_>
Kayak44
> >> Why does Michael J. Vandeman avoid the airline question?
>
> =v= You may not like what the guy has to say, but it is on-topic
> for these newsgroups. Constant insincere _ad_hominem_ needling
> about "environmentalism" and airplanes is not only ineffective,
> it's completely off-topic. Time to give it a rest.
Nope. It's completely on-topic. If Michael J. Vandeman talks-the-talk,
he should also walk-the-walk.
Selfishness is the same whether it's riding a mountain-bike or flying
in an Airbus.
Donald
"Kayak44" <s200ho...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:8650860d-eb5b-4702...@d10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
Who cares.........get a life
Kayak44
> "Kayak44" <s200hondas...@gmail.com> wrote in message
You care, that's why you took time out to read and respond. Thank you
for caring.
Kayak44
<delete follow up to alt.flame>
> >> Constant insincere _ad_hominem_ needling about
> >> "environmentalism" and airplanes is not only ineffective,
> >> it's completely off-topic. Time to give it a rest.
> > Nope. It's completely on-topic. If Michael J. Vandeman
> > talks-the-talk, he should also walk-the-walk.
>
> =x= That is not on-topic for the bicycle groups, nor for the
> backcountry group. It's theoretically marginally on-topic for
> ca.environment because the (as far as you know, sole and only)
> plane flight you keep going on about may have left from this
> state, but that's hardly much of a peg to hang this hat on.
Nope, I'm not talking about a single flight, but thanks for your
assumption.
> =x= Perhaps you're one of those people who don't get what
> sci.environment is for. If what you've got has anything to
> do with science AND the environment, it's on-topic. If it's
> got nothing to do with science, that's what talk.environment
> is for. But as I said, it's clear that you're not being at
> all sincere and it's entirely _ad_hominem_, so really it's
> not on-topic anywhere but alt.flame.
Nope, I'm as sincere as you are with netcopping. If Mikes a fraud he
should be outed as a fraud.
>
> > Selfishness is the same whether it's riding a mountain-bike
> > or flying in an Airbus.
>
> =x= Again, selfishness is an entirely other topic, and not
> what any of these newsgroups were created to discuss.
If ALL the posts in these groups were on topic, maybe I'd care what
you have to say. Your replies to me are as off-topic as any.
>
> =x= Again, please give it a rest. If you don't like what he
> posts and how much he posts, emulating that activity is an
> ineffective waste. Just a one-way ticket to Plonksville.
> <_Jym_>
Are you serious? Good lord man, then plonk and be done.
Public threats about it are just pathetic.
Kayak44
> >> =x= Again, please give it a rest. If you don't like what he
> >> posts and how much he posts, emulating that activity is an
> >> ineffective waste. Just a one-way ticket to Plonksville.
>
> > Public threats about it are just pathetic.
>
> <_Jym_>
I don't need posting advice from you anymore than you need derailleur
adjusting advice from me.
If you don't like what I'm posting, filter it or ignore it instead of
playing games like responding with follow-ups to alt. flame.
Donald
You care, that's why you took time out to read and respond. Thank you
for caring.
No, I don't care...just like laughing at retards some times :(
Kayak44
> "Kayak44" <s200hondas...@gmail.com> wrote in message
That must make it pretty hard for you to shave then.
John Smith
You are right...laughing at your ass makes rasor control difficult :0
Kayak44
> "Kayak44" <s200hondas...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:f726b454-863f-4d5a...@w19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
> On Oct 10, 6:53 pm, "Donald" <dmcg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > "Kayak44" <s200hondas...@gmail.com> wrote in message
>
> >news:cfe030b2-cbd6-44cf...@q14g2000vbi.googlegroups.com...
> > You care, that's why you took time out to read and respond. Thank you
> > for caring.
>
> > No, I don't care...just like laughing at retards some times :(
>
> That must make it pretty hard for you to shave then.
>
> You are right...laughing at your ass makes rasor control difficult :0
Try a raZor then.
Opus
A bunch of stuff...
In response to your question posed in the headline to your post, Yes
Mikey is a fraud. He is fixated on MTB and MTB riders, and utterly
convinced that they will be the eventual destruction of the ecosystem.
Anyone who has ever ridden a MTB is equally at fault even if that bike
was purchased to navigate broken and potholed streets that regularly
destroy road bikes, and has never been farther from pavement than a
gravel road.