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Neil Williams

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Aug 13, 1992, 4:18:15 PM8/13/92
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Well, I found the hard way recently that the post office does
not forward mail from the DMV. I noticed that my registration
was a bit late in arriving, so I went down to the DMV to
renew in person. Turns out I was a few days late, and got
hit with that 40% late fee - $93!!!

Talking later with co-workers, it seems that the post office
never forwards DMV mail.

I was also wondering - what if I had just registered from
scratch instead of "renewing" my registration. Could I have
avoided the late fee? Just an idle thought.

The moral - keep the DMV informed of your new address....

--Neil

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Mike Oliver

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Aug 13, 1992, 5:49:42 PM8/13/92
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In article <1992Aug13.2...@informix.com> ne...@informix.com (Neil Williams) writes:
>
> I noticed that my registration
>was a bit late in arriving [...] Turns out I was a few days late, and got

>hit with that 40% late fee - $93!!!

Presumably you just wrote them an IOU :-?

>The moral - keep the DMV informed of your new address....

And be aware that the DMV tracks registration addresses separately from
driving license addresses -- ie getting a new license with your new
address doesn't mean they'll send your registration renewal to the new
place. Changing the registration address is a separate procedure.

Cheers, Mike.

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Robert S. Helfman

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Aug 14, 1992, 12:43:51 PM8/14/92
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In article <183...@pyramid.pyramid.com> mol...@pyramid.com (Mike Oliver) writes:
>In article <1992Aug13.2...@informix.com> ne...@informix.com (Neil Williams) writes:
>>
>> I noticed that my registration
>>was a bit late in arriving [...] Turns out I was a few days late, and got
>>hit with that 40% late fee - $93!!!
>
>
>And be aware that the DMV tracks registration addresses separately from
>driving license addresses -- ie getting a new license with your new
>address doesn't mean they'll send your registration renewal to the new
>place. Changing the registration address is a separate procedure.

The DMV has a single form on which you can change your drivers license
and vehicle registration addresses, as many as you want. (If you're
an Auto Club member, you can do this at their offices, directly into
the DMV's computer system.

About the previous thread concerning the Post Office not forwarding DMV
items: The DMV puts a DO NOT FORWARD caveat on their envelopes. It's
not the Post Office's fault (amazing - SOMETHING they DON'T get blamed
for!)


pc

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Aug 18, 1992, 5:12:08 PM8/18/92
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In article <1992Aug14.1...@aero.org> hel...@aero.org (Robert S. Helfman) writes:
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>About the previous thread concerning the Post Office not forwarding DMV
>items: The DMV puts a DO NOT FORWARD caveat on their envelopes. It's
>not the Post Office's fault (amazing - SOMETHING they DON'T get blamed
>for!)

Figures. The post office has definitely forwarded DMV type stuff to me.
And the stuff that they are supposed to forward usually gets lost.

pc
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Walt Boeninger

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Aug 14, 1992, 2:18:47 PM8/14/92
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In ca.driving, ne...@informix.com (Neil Williams) writes:


> I was also wondering - what if I had just registered from
> scratch instead of "renewing" my registration. Could I have
> avoided the late fee? Just an idle thought.

Perhaps, if you were to claim non-operation and sign a affadavit
stating you did not operate the vehicle on public streets.

But that would probably be difficult to justify, since you probably
drove the car to the DMV and since it was a address mixup, they would
probably give you a hard time about trying this.

You would have to have your "story" perfectly rehearsed, and
plausible. I did this with a boat trailer once, the only problem
I ran into was the non-operation period included a period of time
that I did not own the vehicle, and they needed the actual owner
at the time to sign the affadavit. This I was not able to do, so
I wound up paying


Anthony Stallone

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Aug 19, 1992, 2:38:29 PM8/19/92
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Word of Caution regarding Change of Address Forms

I registered a change of address with the DMV about two months before
my registration expired. I never got a reminder to re-register and by
the time I figured this out (two days late), I had a $60 penalty.
When I told them I never received the notice, AND I showed them a copy
of the dated change of address form, the nice person behind the
counter informed me that it takes about three months for a change of
address to register with the renewal reminders department. Wish they
were that efficient at applying the penalties!

Tim W Smith

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Aug 20, 1992, 2:26:15 AM8/20/92
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> When I told them I never received the notice, AND I showed them a copy
> of the dated change of address form, the nice person behind the
> counter informed me that it takes about three months for a change of
> address to register with the renewal reminders department. Wish they
> were that efficient at applying the penalties!

A few years ago, notices became courtesy notices only. That is, they
send you a renewal notice as a "friendly" reminder. However, it is
*YOUR* responsibility to renew on time, notice or no notice.

There have been rumors that they have specifically not bothered with
the notices for certain people (i.e., people for whom the penalties
would be large). The numbers I heard are that about 5% will not be
sent notices.

On the one hand, it's kind of annoying to have to remember something one
year ahead so as to not to forget to renew. On the other hand, everytime
you go to your car, you can notice the date on the sticker, so it shouldn't
be that hard to not forget to register.

--Tim Smith

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