22450. (a) The driver of any vehicle approaching a stop sign at the
entrance to, or within, an intersection, or railroad grade crossing
shall stop at a limit line, if marked, otherwise before entering the
crosswalk on the near side of the intersection.
If there is no limit line or crosswalk, the driver shall stop at
the entrance to the intersecting roadway or railroad grade crossing.
If I'm not mistaken, this says that the DRIVER OF ANY VEHICLE must
stop. It says nothing about the car. This could be taken to mean that
the driver must stop the act of driving and look around to make sure it
is safe to proceed into the intersection. The law also does not say how
long you must be stopped. Recall from Physics that a stop is a time
period where your acceleration, and velocity relative to something, are
both zero. The driver can be stopped without the car being stopped. Or
the car could even be stopped for such a short amount of time that the
officer doesn't even notice. Or, technically, you could even run a stop
sign at 15 mph and you would be perfectly legal under this law, as long
as you stopped. (presumably long enough to look around to ensure the
intersection is safe to proceed into)
Comments and/or answers would be appriciated. If you reply, please cc:
your reply to my e-mail address. (mik...@cs.sierra.cc.ca.us) I rarely
peruse the newsgroups.
(poor college student)
If you fucked up pay the danmed fine and be thankful you didn't run
over any kids or kill anyone. College huh? What a sad modern education
system we have....
Those are simple trick questions to elicit if you are loaded or have
a fake id. Imagine a teen borrowing an older friends license to buy
booze and what his answers might be.
As far as the date stuff goes, my experience is muni judges ignore such
trivialities, whether or not they are legally or technically supposed to,
and there isn't much you can do about it. It does hurt to try, if you
must give up the opportunity to go to traffic school or pay a "small" bail.
If you've already gotten too many tickets for that, it might not hurt to
try. Get that Nolo press book about fighting tickets.
>Michael Angelo Ravera wrote:
>> Were you in a rental or in a car with out of state plates? If you were
>> in either and the cop could tell, there is a good chance that he busted
>> you for attempting to execute what is often, but misleadingly refered to
>> as a "California Stop". A "California Stop" is a a manuever in which the
>> vehicle intending to make a right turn illegally (that is to say facing
>> a stop sign or a circulary red light and not at an intersection posted
>> for "right on roll") fails to come to a complete stop before the right
>> turn is begun. A lot of California cops like to bust nonresidents for
>> failing to stop at stop signs as required so as to dispell the myth of
>> the "California Stop". Most cops in California will not bust residents
>> for true "California Stops" (especially for "near stop"), but certainly
>> will bust nonresidents for failing to stop before proceeding through an
These opinions are my own.
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