> To add DOIs, I'm estimating startup cost of $351 and ongoing cost of $325/year. The largest portion is the annual fee, which is per publisher. (Not sure if we could get counted with some other org for this purpose.) We'd also have to add DOIs to our backfiles, and check for DOIs in references.
> Here's where I get those numbers:
> Startup cost: $351
> $275/year + 75.20 DOI fees for 74 articles, 8 volumes, 1 journal:
> 8 pre-2008 articles @ .15 = $1.20
> 66 2008-2010 articles @ $1 = $66
> 8 volumes @$1 = $8
> 1 journal @$0 = $0
> Ongoing cost: $325/year
> ongoing costs: $275/year + $1/article
> 4 issues at 8 articles each = $32 +$8 = 40 in DOI fees
> 4 issues at 12 articles each = $48 + $8 = 56 in DOI fees
This is all very interesting -- getting charged for a unique identifier.
That aside, this is what I suggest:
1) Evaluate whether or not the services we get for a DOI is worth the cost. Keep in mind that after three years we will have spent close to $1,000. Will we (or the community at large) have received $1,000 of benefits?
2) If we determine the benefits are not worth the costs, then done -- exit( 0 );
3) Figure out how to raise the initial capital. I'd be willing to spend some money towards this effort. Others may be so inclined as well.
4) If we raise enough cash, then "subscribe" for the coming year.
5) Figure out how we are going to pay for subsequent years. I suggest the money come off the top of the conference fees. That's an increase of about $2/person. No?
6) Outline an exit strategy; do not commit to doing this work forever. Instead, make a commitment for a limited period of time, say five years (after which we will have spent close to $1,600), and then evaluate whether or not the whole thing is worth it. In other words, after a pre-defined period of time, go to Step #1.
What benefits do we (the community) receive? Why do we need another
identifier for an article? We already have the URL. Perhaps there's
more to DOI that I don't see, but I don't see a redundant identifier
being worth anywhere near $300+/yr.
> 3) Figure out how to raise the initial capital. I'd be willing to spend some money towards this effort. Others may be so inclined as well.
> 5) Figure out how we are going to pay for subsequent years. I suggest the money come off the top of the conference fees. That's an increase of about $2/person. No?
I'll probably get lynched for saying this, but here we go:
advertising. If my personal blog can make $300/yr with a few sidebar
links (easily hidden with Adblock), surely the Code4Lib Journal can
sustain itself. And if it can't, oh well, we don't really need DOI.
Have a nice day,
Jonathan M. Brinley
O.K., where's the rope?
JK. My prob with the idea is the advertisers: allow anyone? limit?
Or am I just being naive?
In general, I think we've done well by keeping ourselves pretty lightweight. I am reluctant to add in a lot more work or tasks we need to do, such as incorporating legally, so we can sell advertising, that we'll have t maintain advertising revenue for, so we can use it to pay for DOIs, that once gotten add additional obligations to us to add a DOI for every reference in our articles. It's like a whole chain of new obligations.
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