[C320-list] Saloon Table

[SARA SCHROEDER]

Easy peasy..... I took the table out. I love the extra space and the table and accompanying pad live in the top of my closet at home. I purchased two small teak folding tables that fit both in the main saloon and cockpit. They can be stored in the V berth or the aft hanging locker. This is the first thing I did when I bought the boat. The PO came aboard and said, "Man.....I should have done that a long time ago."

Sara Schroeder
Wandering Star
#707/2000
Seattle, WA


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> Message: 1
> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2020 14:23:37 -0700
> From: Ted Harrison <thar...@innovations-plus.com>
> To: C320...@catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Saloon table
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> Ok, I will be the one to ask. Did you loosen the screw that holds it at the height you like ?
>
> Ted Harrison
>
> > On Nov 21, 2020, at 12:56 PM, Dan <danb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > ?Chris
> > Sorry sent e mail on sole to you instead of Dave
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Nov 21, 2020, at 2:53 PM, Dan <danb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> ?Chris
> >> How did you go about replacing sole? How difficult.?
> >> Dan Bochniak
> >> #250
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>>> On Nov 21, 2020, at 2:44 PM, Chris Burti <clb...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> ?It has a spring lift that takes a fair amount of pressure directly over the column to make it go down.
> >>>
> >>> Best Regards,
> >>> Chris Burti
> >>> Statewide Title, Inc.
> >>>
> >>>>> On Nov 21, 2020, at 2:23 PM, David Veeneman <dav...@veeneman.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> ?I have never used the saloon settee/table as an extra berth. I?m reinstalling the table pedestal after replacing my cabin sole. Before fastening it down, I checked its raise/lower function, and it?s not working.
> >>>>
> >>>> I loosen the screw on the table?s pedestal (actually removed it), but the post won?t raise or lower. It rotates freely within the sleeve, but it won?t go up or down. It feels like there is a mechanism preventing its up/down motion.
> >>>>
> >>>> Am I missing something in how to raise/lower the table? Thanks for your help.
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> David Veeneman
> >>>> SV Adelante
> >>>> Dana Point, CA
> >>>> 1994 C320, #131
>
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2020 16:29:41 -0500
> From: Troy Dunn <troutw...@gmail.com>
> To: C320...@catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Saloon table
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> On Hull #514 it seems like the mechanism has some sort of friction stop
> near the top of the range. To get our table to retract I put both hands
> directly over the pedestal and put my body weight on it and then give it a
> good dynamic push...kinda like starting CPR on the table. It usually
> gives on the first try...once it releases it glides down and back up easily.
>
> Troy Dunn
> Hull #514
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2020 13:51:43 -0800
> From: David Veeneman <dav...@veeneman.com>
> To: C320 Assn Forum <c320...@lists.catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Saloon table
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> It?s a fairly exacting task, and rather time-consuming. I completely replaced the flooring, using 3/4? marine-grade plywood and Lonseal vinyl laminate. If you?ve done woodworking, the job isn?t really that difficult. Trace pieces onto the plywood, cut (using circular saw for straight runs, and jigsaw for curves), and belt-sand edges. It?s important to get a precise cut and to do all edge sanding before proceeding.
>
> Fit the plywood to the cabin to make sure you have a nice, tight fit, then seal the bottoms and edges of the boards with epoxy (I used West System). Lay the boards out on the Lonseal and trace outlines, being careful to line up stripes on the laminate?assuming you are using a teak/Holly laminate. It?s best to allow about 1/8? excess laminate on all sides.
>
> Then, glue the laminate to the boards using West System thickened with silica filler?it should be the consistency of mayonnaise. Check the alignment of the stripes as you position the laminate on the boards. Use a flooring roller to roll out any bubbles, then put weight on the laminate. I used the old floor boards, weighted down with sandbags. Finally, I trimmed the excess with a knife and belt-sanded any remaining to make it flush with the edge of the board.
>
> Hope that helps!
>
> > From: Dan <danb...@gmail.com <mailto:danb...@gmail.com>>
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Saloon table
> > Date: November 21, 2020 at 11:54:59 AM PST
> > To: C320...@catalina320.com <mailto:C320...@catalina320.com>
> >
> >
> > Dave
> > How difficult to replace sole?
> > Dan
> > #250
>
> --
> David Veeneman
> SV Adelante, C320 #131
> Dana Point, CA
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 21 Nov 2020 18:37:33 -0500
> From: Chris Burti <clb...@gmail.com>
> To: "C320...@Catalina320.com" <C320...@Catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Saloon table
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> No problem?I average well over one hundred emails every day?I can deal with one more easily?lol
>
> Thanks,
> Chris Burti
> Farmville, NC
>
> From: Dan
> Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2020 2:56 PM
> To: C320...@catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Saloon table
>
> C
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 11:00:30 +0000 (UTC)
> From: wd...@aol.com
> To: "C320...@Catalina320.com" <C320...@Catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] spinnaker/whisker pole fitting & portlights
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> Thank you Graeme, Mike, Troy, etc.?Always amazed at the wealth of info on this list.?Bill ?
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Graeme Clark <c...@skyflyer.co.uk>
> To: C320...@catalina320.com
> Sent: Fri, Nov 20, 2020 5:40 pm
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] spinnaker/whisker pole fitting & portlights
>
> ? .... or have them fabricated yourself at a plastic shop (cut our shape and drill holes for closing levers.?
>
> I had a friend with a CNC router made new ones for me. The basic shape and holes are easy enough but there is a shallow circular rebate to cut,? behind where the body of the latch sits.? The big advantage of having them made is you can choose the colour and degree of tint to suit your taste, requirements for privacy or climate!
>
> Graeme
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On 20 Nov 2020, at 22:19, Mike Mellon <mme...@cruzio.com> wrote:
> >
> > Bill, as I recall, you can get new polycarbonate lenses from Lewmar or have them fabricated yourself at a plastic shop (cut our shape and drill holes for closing levers).
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> Message: 6
> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 18:18:00 +0000
> From: Dennis Cookson <den...@cooksons.net>
> To: "C320...@catalina320.com" <C320...@Catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Saloon table
> Message-ID: <9EB53C45-2238-4F76...@cooksons.net>
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> David,
>
> I too had problems with the table pedestal which was extremely stiff and prone to getting jammed in one position or other. Last summer I removed it from the boat and took it apart. There?s very little inside - just a gas-filled strut which was working ok, but what I found was that there is an inner white nylon sleeve that grips the telescoping upper column and this seemed to have shrunk (or expanded?) such that it made it very difficult for the upper column to move. I spent some time sanding the inside of this sleeve to open it up a little and eventually got the pedestal working again. Even so, it?s important to press down on the table directly above the pedestal - not off-centre at all, otherwise it won?t retract.
>
> I have some pictures of the pedestal inside if you are interested.
>
> Dennis Cookson
> Catalina 0577
>
>
>
> > On 21 Nov 2020, at 19:23, David Veeneman <dav...@veeneman.com> wrote:
> >
> > I have never used the saloon settee/table as an extra berth. I?m reinstalling the table pedestal after replacing my cabin sole. Before fastening it down, I checked its raise/lower function, and it?s not working.
> >
> > I loosen the screw on the table?s pedestal (actually removed it), but the post won?t raise or lower. It rotates freely within the sleeve, but it won?t go up or down. It feels like there is a mechanism preventing its up/down motion.
> >
> > Am I missing something in how to raise/lower the table? Thanks for your help.
> >
> > --
> > David Veeneman
> > SV Adelante
> > Dana Point, CA
> > 1994 C320, #131
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 10:22:31 -0800
> From: Mike Mellon <mme...@cruzio.com>
> To: c320...@lists.catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Saloon table movement
> Message-ID: <ed5f943e-e8e3-6bcb...@cruzio.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> Re table movement: in my experience, you have to apply downward pressure
> on the top surface *exactly* at location of the post underneath, or it
> is difficult to get the table to move down against the internal spring
> tension.?? If you do not apply pressure at the correct location, it
> binds very easily.
>
> Going up, simply releasing the locking screw (ccw) normally allow the
> internal spring to push the table back up.? Maybe a little silicon spray
> lubricant on the tube surface would help.
>
> Mike Mellon, LaVida
> #324 1996
>
>
> On 11/21/2020 11:26 AM, Dave Hupe wrote:
> > Dave - did you just loosen the screw and push down hard on the middle of the table?? I think I struggled with this when I first bought our boat.
> > Dave Hupe
> > 1994 C320 (#32)
> > On Saturday, November 21, 2020, 02:23:26 PM EST, David Veeneman <dav...@veeneman.com> wrote:
> >
> > I have never used the saloon settee/table as an extra berth. I?m reinstalling the table pedestal after replacing my cabin sole. Before fastening it down, I checked its raise/lower function, and it?s not working.
> >
> > I loosen the screw on the table?s pedestal (actually removed it), but the post won?t raise or lower. It rotates freely within the sleeve, but it won?t go up or down. It feels like there is a mechanism preventing its up/down motion.
> >
> > Am I missing something in how to raise/lower the table? Thanks for your help.
> >
> > --
> > David Veeneman
> > SV Adelante
> > Dana Point, CA
> > 1994 C320, #131
>
> --
> Michael Mellon
> 45 Ortalon Ave
> Santa Cruz, CA 95060
> mme...@cruzio.com
> 831-425-5583 Home
>
>
>
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>
> Message: 8
> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 18:27:33 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Ken Geiger <ken...@aol.com>
> To: "den...@cooksons.net" <den...@cooksons.net>,
> "C320...@Catalina320.com" <C320...@Catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Saloon table
> Message-ID: <107335458.43661...@mail.yahoo.com>
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> Hi Dennis, I too have this problem.? could you email me some pictures.? ken...@aol.com
> Ken GeigerNorthern Dream #765
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dennis Cookson <den...@cooksons.net>
> To: C320...@catalina320.com <C320...@Catalina320.com>
> Sent: Sun, Nov 22, 2020 1:18 pm
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Saloon table
>
> David,
>
> I too had problems with the table pedestal which was extremely stiff and prone to getting jammed in one position or other. Last summer I removed it from the boat and took it apart. There?s very little inside - just a gas-filled strut which was working ok, but what I found was that there is an inner white nylon sleeve that grips the telescoping upper column and this seemed to have shrunk (or expanded?) such that it made it very difficult for the upper column to move.? I spent some time sanding the inside of this sleeve to open it up a little and eventually got the pedestal working again.? Even so, it?s important to press down on the table directly above the pedestal - not off-centre at all, otherwise it won?t retract.
>
> I have some pictures of the pedestal inside if you are interested.
>
> Dennis Cookson
> Catalina 0577
>
>
>
> > On 21 Nov 2020, at 19:23, David Veeneman <dav...@veeneman.com> wrote:
> >
> > I have never used the saloon settee/table as an extra berth. I?m reinstalling the table pedestal after replacing my cabin sole. Before fastening it down, I checked its raise/lower function, and it?s not working.
> >
> > I loosen the screw on the table?s pedestal (actually removed it), but the post won?t raise or lower. It rotates freely within the sleeve, but it won?t go up or down. It feels like there is a mechanism preventing its up/down motion.
> >
> > Am I missing something in how to raise/lower the table? Thanks for your help.
> >
> > --
> > David Veeneman
> > SV Adelante
> > Dana Point, CA
> > 1994 C320, #131
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 12:44:29 -0600
> From: "John Frost" <johnc...@gmail.com>
> To: <C320...@Catalina320.com>, <c320...@lists.catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Saloon table movement
> Message-ID: <05d501d6c0ff$831911a0$894b34e0$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> FYI, my table support (2009 MKII) came new with a big tag that said "DO NOT LUNBRICATE". I don't know why
>
> John
> 2009 C320MKII
> Hull #1118
> Lake Guntersville, AL
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C320-list <c320-lis...@lists.catalina320.com> On Behalf Of Mike Mellon
> Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2020 12:23 PM
> To: c320...@lists.catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Saloon table movement
>
> Re table movement: in my experience, you have to apply downward pressure on the top surface *exactly* at location of the post underneath, or it is difficult to get the table to move down against the internal spring tension. If you do not apply pressure at the correct location, it binds very easily.
>
> Going up, simply releasing the locking screw (ccw) normally allow the internal spring to push the table back up. Maybe a little silicon spray lubricant on the tube surface would help.
>
> Mike Mellon, LaVida
> #324 1996
>
>
> On 11/21/2020 11:26 AM, Dave Hupe wrote:
> > Dave - did you just loosen the screw and push down hard on the middle of the table? I think I struggled with this when I first bought our boat.
> > Dave Hupe
> > 1994 C320 (#32)
> > On Saturday, November 21, 2020, 02:23:26 PM EST, David Veeneman <dav...@veeneman.com> wrote:
> >
> > I have never used the saloon settee/table as an extra berth. I?m reinstalling the table pedestal after replacing my cabin sole. Before fastening it down, I checked its raise/lower function, and it?s not working.
> >
> > I loosen the screw on the table?s pedestal (actually removed it), but the post won?t raise or lower. It rotates freely within the sleeve, but it won?t go up or down. It feels like there is a mechanism preventing its up/down motion.
> >
> > Am I missing something in how to raise/lower the table? Thanks for your help.
> >
> > --
> > David Veeneman
> > SV Adelante
> > Dana Point, CA
> > 1994 C320, #131
>
> --
> Michael Mellon
> 45 Ortalon Ave
> Santa Cruz, CA 95060
> mme...@cruzio.com
> 831-425-5583 Home
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 12:44:29 -0600
> From: "John Frost" <johnc...@gmail.com>
> To: <C320...@Catalina320.com>, <c320...@lists.catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Saloon table movement
> Message-ID: <05d501d6c0ff$831911a0$894b34e0$@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> FYI, my table support (2009 MKII) came new with a big tag that said "DO NOT LUNBRICATE". I don't know why
>
> John
> 2009 C320MKII
> Hull #1118
> Lake Guntersville, AL
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C320-list <c320-lis...@lists.catalina320.com> On Behalf Of Mike Mellon
> Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2020 12:23 PM
> To: c320...@lists.catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Saloon table movement
>
> Re table movement: in my experience, you have to apply downward pressure on the top surface *exactly* at location of the post underneath, or it is difficult to get the table to move down against the internal spring tension. If you do not apply pressure at the correct location, it binds very easily.
>
> Going up, simply releasing the locking screw (ccw) normally allow the internal spring to push the table back up. Maybe a little silicon spray lubricant on the tube surface would help.
>
> Mike Mellon, LaVida
> #324 1996
>
>
> On 11/21/2020 11:26 AM, Dave Hupe wrote:
> > Dave - did you just loosen the screw and push down hard on the middle of the table? I think I struggled with this when I first bought our boat.
> > Dave Hupe
> > 1994 C320 (#32)
> > On Saturday, November 21, 2020, 02:23:26 PM EST, David Veeneman <dav...@veeneman.com> wrote:
> >
> > I have never used the saloon settee/table as an extra berth. I?m reinstalling the table pedestal after replacing my cabin sole. Before fastening it down, I checked its raise/lower function, and it?s not working.
> >
> > I loosen the screw on the table?s pedestal (actually removed it), but the post won?t raise or lower. It rotates freely within the sleeve, but it won?t go up or down. It feels like there is a mechanism preventing its up/down motion.
> >
> > Am I missing something in how to raise/lower the table? Thanks for your help.
> >
> > --
> > David Veeneman
> > SV Adelante
> > Dana Point, CA
> > 1994 C320, #131
>
> --
> Michael Mellon
> 45 Ortalon Ave
> Santa Cruz, CA 95060
> mme...@cruzio.com
> 831-425-5583 Home
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 13:50:41 -0500
> From: Irving Grunes <igr...@gmail.com>
> To: C320...@catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Saloon table movement
> Message-ID:
> <CAE+H+C+QD+XmbEkxak6VCxGRq3BJEsOWnw7=Ye6o2dy...@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> We used to stand on the table and jump up and down to get it to move down
> Irv
> Formerly 851
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 22, 2020, 1:22 PM Mike Mellon <mme...@cruzio.com> wrote:
>
> > Re table movement: in my experience, you have to apply downward pressure
> > on the top surface *exactly* at location of the post underneath, or it
> > is difficult to get the table to move down against the internal spring
> > tension. If you do not apply pressure at the correct location, it
> > binds very easily.
> >
> > Going up, simply releasing the locking screw (ccw) normally allow the
> > internal spring to push the table back up. Maybe a little silicon spray
> > lubricant on the tube surface would help.
> >
> > Mike Mellon, LaVida
> > #324 1996
> >
> >
> > On 11/21/2020 11:26 AM, Dave Hupe wrote:
> > > Dave - did you just loosen the screw and push down hard on the middle
> > of the table? I think I struggled with this when I first bought our boat.
> > > Dave Hupe
> > > 1994 C320 (#32)
> > > On Saturday, November 21, 2020, 02:23:26 PM EST, David Veeneman <
> > dav...@veeneman.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I have never used the saloon settee/table as an extra berth. I?m
> > reinstalling the table pedestal after replacing my cabin sole. Before
> > fastening it down, I checked its raise/lower function, and it?s not working.
> > >
> > > I loosen the screw on the table?s pedestal (actually removed it), but
> > the post won?t raise or lower. It rotates freely within the sleeve, but it
> > won?t go up or down. It feels like there is a mechanism preventing its
> > up/down motion.
> > >
> > > Am I missing something in how to raise/lower the table? Thanks for your
> > help.
> > >
> > > --
> > > David Veeneman
> > > SV Adelante
> > > Dana Point, CA
> > > 1994 C320, #131
> >
> > --
> > Michael Mellon
> > 45 Ortalon Ave
> > Santa Cruz, CA 95060
> > mme...@cruzio.com
> > 831-425-5583 Home
> >
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 11:52:33 -0800
> From: Mike Mellon <mme...@cruzio.com>
> To: c320...@lists.catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Saloon table movement
> Message-ID: <97ca3d07-0fa6-3247...@cruzio.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> Sorry for the silicon spray advice!
>
> Mike
>
> On 11/22/2020 10:44 AM, John Frost wrote:
> > FYI, my table support (2009 MKII) came new with a big tag that said "DO NOT LUNBRICATE". I don't know why
> >
> > John
> > 2009 C320MKII
> > Hull #1118
> > Lake Guntersville, AL
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: C320-list <c320-lis...@lists.catalina320.com> On Behalf Of Mike Mellon
> > Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2020 12:23 PM
> > To: c320...@lists.catalina320.com
> > Subject: Re: [C320-list] Saloon table movement
> >
> > Re table movement: in my experience, you have to apply downward pressure on the top surface *exactly* at location of the post underneath, or it is difficult to get the table to move down against the internal spring tension. If you do not apply pressure at the correct location, it binds very easily.
> >
> > Going up, simply releasing the locking screw (ccw) normally allow the internal spring to push the table back up. Maybe a little silicon spray lubricant on the tube surface would help.
> >
> > Mike Mellon, LaVida
> > #324 1996
> >
> >
> > On 11/21/2020 11:26 AM, Dave Hupe wrote:
> >> Dave - did you just loosen the screw and push down hard on the middle of the table? I think I struggled with this when I first bought our boat.
> >> Dave Hupe
> >> 1994 C320 (#32)
> >> On Saturday, November 21, 2020, 02:23:26 PM EST, David Veeneman <dav...@veeneman.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I have never used the saloon settee/table as an extra berth. I?m reinstalling the table pedestal after replacing my cabin sole. Before fastening it down, I checked its raise/lower function, and it?s not working.
> >>
> >> I loosen the screw on the table?s pedestal (actually removed it), but the post won?t raise or lower. It rotates freely within the sleeve, but it won?t go up or down. It feels like there is a mechanism preventing its up/down motion.
> >>
> >> Am I missing something in how to raise/lower the table? Thanks for your help.
> >>
> >> --
> >> David Veeneman
> >> SV Adelante
> >> Dana Point, CA
> >> 1994 C320, #131
> > --
> > Michael Mellon
> > 45 Ortalon Ave
> > Santa Cruz, CA 95060
> > mme...@cruzio.com
> > 831-425-5583 Home
> >
> >
> --
> Michael Mellon
> 45 Ortalon Ave
> Santa Cruz, CA 95060
> mme...@cruzio.com
> 831-425-5583 Home
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 13
> Date: Sun, 22 Nov 2020 19:55:56 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Dave Hupe <hoop...@yahoo.com>
> To: "C320...@Catalina320.com" <C320...@Catalina320.com>
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] Saloon table movement
> Message-ID: <249243141.44747...@mail.yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Probably they suggest don't lubricate otherwise the table may slip and not stay lowered.
>
>
>
> End of C320-list Digest, Vol 3892, Issue 1
> ******************************************

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Has anyone replaced the saloon table pedestal?  I'm considering Springfield Marine #1660230.  We've been using it mostly in the "down/bed" position because it is very difficult to get down on a daily basis.  We'd love to use as a table too.  Neil Kornblatt Harmony #963