[C320-list] Adler Barbour Cold Machine Issue

[Don Johnson]

So, my Cold Machine quit providing “cold”. The fan & compressor are running, but no cold. Probably freon or temp gage, but not enough time to have a tech check it out & we are taking the boat out for a few days. I currently plan to temporarily use the refer as an ice box for a couple of days. I know it has a drain & it seems like it would work OK as an ice box for a brief period. Any experience out there, or known issues with using it this way? Thanks much.

Don Johnson
1994/#53

[Timothy Woods]

Don,

I use ice in mine all the time without any problems. I like my diet Coke
really cold, just above freezing. The fridge will drain into the bilge
right in front of the head door.

[Guy Smith]

Hey Don!
I often throw a bag of Ice in the bottom of the refrigerator when my wife and I get down to Pleiades on a Friday night to help chill it down faster than the 12-volt refrigeration can. I put a selection of libations under the ice so we have cold ones quickly. The Ice generally lasts until Sunday, but that is with the 12-volt refrigeration kicked in right away. We use the ice in happy hour cocktails. :) I would guess that if you put in enough ice, it would last, or maybe hit a marina to top it off after a few days.The melt does drain into the bilge. I'm not sure how long frozen items would last in ice, but if you time it right, you could freeze some food at home that you would want in a few days and take some fresh foods for the first couple of days. You'll have to take care to wrap food appropriately so that it doesn't get soggy  from the ice melt.
I have been out on a friend's '86 Hunter 34 and Ice is the only refrigeration he has. Seemed to last quite a while for him too.
Just make sure to empty the box, towel it out as much as possible and keep the lids open to dry it out when you leave.
Fair winds on your trip!~g
Guy and Liz Smithsv Pleiades '97 C320 #452Worton Creek, MD, USA
On Friday, March 31, 2017, 10:13:24 AM EDT, Don Johnson <donj...@att.net> wrote:So, my Cold Machine quit providing “cold”.  The fan & compressor are running, but no cold.  Probably freon or temp gage, but not enough time to have a tech check it out & we are taking the boat out for a few days. I currently plan to temporarily use the refer as an ice box for a couple of days. I know it has a drain & it seems like it would work OK as an ice box for a brief period.  Any experience out there, or known issues with using it this way?  Thanks much.

Don Johnson
1994/#53

[Art Harden]

Another consideration is dry ice. It keeps things even colder and no drainage. Just don't put anything directly against the dry ice and it will freeze.

Art Harden
Tortuga Catalina 320
937-477-5544 (m)

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[Marc Forster]

Excellent advice from Art Harden. We'll spend a week and a half or two on the hook or a mooring and never use the refrigeration at all. Two pieces of dry ice, about the size of a large book each, insulated with real ice, will last the entire trip.

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Another consideration is dry ice. It keeps things even colder and no drainage. Just don't put anything directly against the dry ice and it will freeze.

Art Harden
Tortuga Catalina 320
937-477-5544 (m)

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[Warren Updike]

So, here is a case where year and hull# may become important. On the early hulls, the refer does drain into the bilge directly. I understand that on newer models it's on a valve and drains into the head overboard?? If not directly draining, melted ice could backup into the fridge.

On our #62, when more than a weekend cruise, we put a 10lb block of ice at the very bottom with a plastic container to Stbd of the ice. Pattie puts ice cubes and frozen food for later in the freezer box. Frozen food for more immediate use goes in the plastic container. Then, a thin plastic sheet is placed on the port side of the freezer box. This keeps the frozen food underneath frozen quite well until we need it. After a week, the ice block is about half gone.

Warren and Pattie Updike
1994 C320 "Warr de Mar" #62
Middle River, Chesapeake Bay

[Jeff Hare]

Hello,

Here's a document from the C320 website on diagnosing the compressor unit.
http://c320.org/filemgmt/index.php?id=151

In my case, the controller module went out and the above diagnostics showed that.
I purchased a Danfoss BD35 / BD50 Electronic Module (SKU: FB-E-E50895) for $189, plugged it in and.... cold beer.

I purchased it from http://great-water.com
It’s advertised under the "frigoboat" electronics section. The current link is here:

http://great-water.com/product/danfoss-bd35-and-bd50-electronic-module/

They have some other electronic addons to our fridge compressor like the Smart Speed Control that increases the efficiency of the compressor by soft starting it and running variable speed so that it is only running as fast as it actually needs to run to save energy.


Hope this helps..
-Jeff Hare

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[Ken Geiger]

Warren to clarify. On #765 year 2000, the reefer drains by hose to a 3 way valve, to a filter, to a pump, to overboard. With the 3 way valve you chose to pump out the reefer sump or pump out the shower sump.

Ken Geiger
Northern Dream

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[sail-ability sail-ability]

We don't have the luxury of overboard pumping from the reefer on
Luffin Life 1999#574, the reefer drains into the bilge. I thought most
2000 boats had a proper small fridge installed?

Cheers

JohnM

1999#574

[Chris Burti]

2001 #867 has the Adler Barbour system and drains to the shower sump.

Best Regards,
Chris Burti
Commitment #867
Farmville, North Carolina

[Utility Email]

My ice box refrigerator also drains to the shower sump via wye valve behind the sink cabinet.

Dave Swanson
S/V Emily Ann
2007 C320 MK II, No. 1107
Mukilteo, Washington

[Don Johnson]

Thanks to all who responded with the great and timely info/advice.

Don
1994/#53

[Gene Helfman]

One more (helpful) idea. We freeze a couple of one gallon milk jugs (each
holds 8 lbs) prior to cruising and use those in preference to ice blocks.
They have the advantage of (1) no drainage issues when thawed, and (2) a
handle. Also (3) you can always use a couple of extra gallons of fresh
water. Just remember of course to not fill all the way and put the lid on
loosely to allow for expansion during the freezing process.

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Gene Helfman, Professor Emeritus
Odum School of Ecology, University of Georgia
PERMANENT address:
498 Shoreland Dr., Lopez Is., WA 98261
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[Mark Gillingham]

The controller on #612 (1999) does not look like the BD35:50 module but may
be fine. I have a single board in a black metal case. The outside face of
the case shows the pins (e.g., T, C, +,-, etc). No LED aboard and I can't
rig one.

Symptom is that the compressor runs constantly with no chilling. Do you
think a new double-board module will help?

Speakeasy 612
St Joseph

Mark Gillingham | USCG Captain | @markgillingham | 312-543-3052 |

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