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Today's Topics:

  1. Re: cockpit shower head (Tim Van de Water)
  2. Re: cockpit shower head (Tim Van de Water)
  3. Electric winch (David Wellerstein)
  4. Re: Electric winch (Mike Shetter)
  5. Re: Electric winch (Jack Brennan)
  6. Re: Electric winch (Diane Fowler)
  7. Re: Electric winch (Charles Holbrook)
  8. Re: Electric winch (SV Osprey)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 11 May 2025 19:57:54 -0400
From: Tim Van de Water <tj.van...@gmail.com>
To: C320...@catalina320.com
Cc: Louis Friedman via C320-list <c320...@lists.catalina320.com>,
    Louis Friedman <lou...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] cockpit shower head
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Lou, I feel you.  I was on my boat on Friday... and found the shower head
has broken off at the hose connection.  I found the same result on the
Catalina Direct site.  Looking forward to everyone's feedback!

Regards,
*Tim Van de Water*
*s/v Coda*
*#537 (1998)*

On Sun, May 11, 2025 at 3:54?PM Louis Friedman via C320-list <
c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:

>  Hi all, i just noticed that  pin for the trigger on the cockpit
> showerhead has broken.  Looking on Catalina direct it appears they only
> sell the entire assembly(the head itself was apparently discontinued!).
> Anyone have this issue before and find a replacement for just the shower
> head?
>
>
> Lou
> s/v Miss Adventure
> #623
>


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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 11 May 2025 19:57:54 -0400
From: Tim Van de Water <tj.van...@gmail.com>
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Cc: Louis Friedman via C320-list <c320...@lists.catalina320.com>,
    Louis Friedman <lou...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] cockpit shower head
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Lou, I feel you.  I was on my boat on Friday... and found the shower head
has broken off at the hose connection.  I found the same result on the
Catalina Direct site.  Looking forward to everyone's feedback!

Regards,
*Tim Van de Water*
*s/v Coda*
*#537 (1998)*

On Sun, May 11, 2025 at 3:54?PM Louis Friedman via C320-list <
c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:

>  Hi all, i just noticed that  pin for the trigger on the cockpit
> showerhead has broken.  Looking on Catalina direct it appears they only
> sell the entire assembly(the head itself was apparently discontinued!).
> Anyone have this issue before and find a replacement for just the shower
> head?
>
>
> Lou
> s/v Miss Adventure
> #623
>


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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 11 May 2025 20:00:40 -0700
From: David Wellerstein <dwel...@mac.com>
To: C320...@catalina320.com
Subject: [C320-list] Electric winch
Message-ID: <00804995-787B-414E...@mac.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=utf-8

Hi all!

Out on the Bay today, 20 knots steady with gusts to 25.  Great day to be out (there were so few boats out) and lunch at Angel Island is always a treat.  First outing of the season and we had a few issues but all in all a great day!

Taking the main up and down, especially at our ages, is getting to be pretty tiring and especially if we have to do it twice on a sail.  I thought maybe an electric winch for the starboard cabin top to raise the main would be perfect until I checked the prices.  Wow.  Looks to be about $5k just for the winch and probably quite a bit for installation.

So, anyone have any thoughts on tactics for main management for alta k?s (IYKYK) like me?  A new boat with a furling main would be cool but not in the cards, at least not for awhile.

Thanks as always and a special shout out to Bob B. for his help with my under sink water issue(s).  This group is a life, boat, and sanity saver!

?David

C320 #118 ?Dream Catcher"

David Wellerstein | dwel...@mac.com | 925.301.6581 (m)



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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 11 May 2025 23:16:35 -0400
From: Mike Shetter <mi...@softscrap.com>
To: <C320...@Catalina320.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Electric winch
Message-ID: <8326B76F-63B9-F74E...@hxcore.ol>
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  I use a 3/8 battery powered drill from Harbor freight, about $60 and a
  winch bit adapter about $20.  I turn 80 this summer and the arrangement
  makes raising the main a piece of cake.

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  From: C320-list <c320-lis...@lists.catalina320.com> on behalf of
  David Wellerstein via C320-list <c320...@lists.catalina320.com>
  Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2025 11:08 PM
  To: C320...@catalina320.com <C320...@catalina320.com>
  Cc: David Wellerstein <dwel...@mac.com>
  Subject: [C320-list] Electric winch

  Hi all!
  Out on the Bay today, 20 knots steady with gusts to 25. Great day to be
  out (there were so few boats out) and lunch at Angel Island is always a
  treat. First outing of the season and we had a few issues but all in
  all a great day!
  Taking the main up and down, especially at our ages, is getting to be
  pretty tiring and especially if we have to do it twice on a sail. I
  thought maybe an electric winch for the starboard cabin top to raise
  the main would be perfect until I checked the prices. Wow. Looks to be
  about $5k just for the winch and probably quite a bit for installation.
  So, anyone have any thoughts on tactics for main management for alta
  k?s (IYKYK) like me? A new boat with a furling main would be cool but
  not in the cards, at least not for awhile.
  Thanks as always and a special shout out to Bob B. for his help with my
  under sink water issue(s). This group is a life, boat, and sanity
  saver!
  ?David
  C320 #118 ?Dream Catcher"
  David Wellerstein | dwel...@mac.com | 925.301.6581 (m)
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 12 May 2025 03:32:40 +0000
From: Jack Brennan <jackbre...@outlook.com>
To: "C320...@catalina320.com" <C320...@catalina320.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Electric winch
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I view winch and sail handling as a good excuse for not going to the gym. :)

Regular use of silicone lube on the main sail track is extremely helpful. I have a Dutchman system, and it also helps to loosen the topping lift before cranking the main up, as does pointing directly into the wind.

A drawback to electric winchs and drills with fittings is that you don't realize when something gets hung up. Doing it by hand gives you the opportunity to clear the snag before you break something.

Still, there are limits as we get older. I spuing for a new windlass that handles chain because I realized, at age 71, that hauling a 35-pound anchor and 80 feet of chain was taxing my strength.

I also find myself occasionally using the winch to haul in the furling jib, even though that was not an issue just a few years ago.

Jack BrennanCatalina 320
Sonas, 1998 Caalina 320
Tierra Verde, Fl.





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Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2025 11:00 PM
To: C320...@catalina320.com <C320...@catalina320.com>
Cc: David Wellerstein <dwel...@mac.com>
Subject: [C320-list] Electric winch

Hi all!

Out on the Bay today, 20 knots steady with gusts to 25.  Great day to be out (there were so few boats out) and lunch at Angel Island is always a treat.  First outing of the season and we had a few issues but all in all a great day!

Taking the main up and down, especially at our ages, is getting to be pretty tiring and especially if we have to do it twice on a sail.  I thought maybe an electric winch for the starboard cabin top to raise the main would be perfect until I checked the prices.  Wow.  Looks to be about $5k just for the winch and probably quite a bit for installation.

So, anyone have any thoughts on tactics for main management for alta k?s (IYKYK) like me?  A new boat with a furling main would be cool but not in the cards, at least not for awhile.

Thanks as always and a special shout out to Bob B. for his help with my under sink water issue(s).  This group is a life, boat, and sanity saver!

?David

C320 #118 ?Dream Catcher"

David Wellerstein | dwel...@mac.com | 925.301.6581 (m)



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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 12 May 2025 07:11:34 -0400
From: Diane Fowler <dian...@aol.com>
To: C320...@catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Electric winch
Message-ID: <CE48B3AD-B1F7-444B...@aol.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

  We raise the main with a crew member "jumping" the main.  He hauls most
  of the line down while I take up slack.  Halyard is locked , so when it
  gets to the end/ he comes back & uses wench for final adjustment.  He's
  82 & going strong!

  #948 Windy City, Cape Coral, FL

  Captain Diane Fowler, CRS, GRI, e-PRO

  Entrepreneur / REALTOR?
  Experience Real Estate Group, LLC
  [1]https://dianefowler.eresuccess.com

  Cell/Text: (239) 850-4935
  [2]dian...@aol.com
  "A referral of your friend is the greatest compliment anyone can give
  me."

    On May 11, 2025, at 11:33?PM, Jack Brennan via C320-list
    <c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:

  ?I view winch and sail handling as a good excuse for not going to the
  gym. :)
  Regular use of silicone lube on the main sail track is extremely
  helpful. I have a Dutchman system, and it also helps to loosen the
  topping lift before cranking the main up, as does pointing directly
  into the wind.
  A drawback to electric winchs and drills with fittings is that you
  don't realize when something gets hung up. Doing it by hand gives you
  the opportunity to clear the snag before you break something.
  Still, there are limits as we get older. I spuing for a new windlass
  that handles chain because I realized, at age 71, that hauling a
  35-pound anchor and 80 feet of chain was taxing my strength.
  I also find myself occasionally using the winch to haul in the furling
  jib, even though that was not an issue just a few years ago.
  Jack BrennanCatalina 320
  Sonas, 1998 Caalina 320
  Tierra Verde, Fl.
  ________________________________
  From: C320-list <c320-lis...@lists.catalina320.com> on behalf of
  David Wellerstein via C320-list <c320...@lists.catalina320.com>
  Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2025 11:00 PM
  To: C320...@catalina320.com <C320...@catalina320.com>
  Cc: David Wellerstein <dwel...@mac.com>
  Subject: [C320-list] Electric winch
  Hi all!
  Out on the Bay today, 20 knots steady with gusts to 25.  Great day to
  be out (there were so few boats out) and lunch at Angel Island is
  always a treat.  First outing of the season and we had a few issues but
  all in all a great day!
  Taking the main up and down, especially at our ages, is getting to be
  pretty tiring and especially if we have to do it twice on a sail.  I
  thought maybe an electric winch for the starboard cabin top to raise
  the main would be perfect until I checked the prices.  Wow.  Looks to
  be about $5k just for the winch and probably quite a bit for
  installation.
  So, anyone have any thoughts on tactics for main management for alta
  k?s (IYKYK) like me?  A new boat with a furling main would be cool but
  not in the cards, at least not for awhile.
  Thanks as always and a special shout out to Bob B. for his help with my
  under sink water issue(s).  This group is a life, boat, and sanity
  saver!
  ?David
  C320 #118 ?Dream Catcher"
  David Wellerstein | dwel...@mac.com | 925.301.6581 (m)

References

  1. https://dianefowler.eresuccess.com/
  2. mailto:dian...@aol.com


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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 12 May 2025 11:47:03 +0000 (UTC)
From: Charles Holbrook <charles...@ymail.com>
To: "c320...@catalina320.com" <c320...@catalina320.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Electric winch
Message-ID: <891335935.20903...@mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

David,??
I use a heavy duty drill with an attachment that fits right into the top of the winch.? Look on Amazon for a "Sailboat Winch Bit Adapter."? ?It cost $18.89.
Charlie Holbrook"Nautigirl" 192    On Monday, May 12, 2025 at 07:12:17 AM EDT, Diane Fowler via C320-list <c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote: 

? We raise the main with a crew member "jumping" the main.? He hauls most
? of the line down while I take up slack.? Halyard is locked , so when it
? gets to the end/ he comes back & uses wench for final adjustment.? He's
? 82 & going strong!

? #948 Windy City, Cape Coral, FL

? Captain Diane Fowler, CRS, GRI, e-PRO

? Entrepreneur / REALTOR?
? Experience Real Estate Group, LLC
? [1]https://dianefowler.eresuccess.com

? Cell/Text: (239) 850-4935
? [2]dian...@aol.com
? "A referral of your friend is the greatest compliment anyone can give
? me."

? ? On May 11, 2025, at 11:33?PM, Jack Brennan via C320-list
? ? <c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:

? ?I view winch and sail handling as a good excuse for not going to the
? gym. :)
? Regular use of silicone lube on the main sail track is extremely
? helpful. I have a Dutchman system, and it also helps to loosen the
? topping lift before cranking the main up, as does pointing directly
? into the wind.
? A drawback to electric winchs and drills with fittings is that you
? don't realize when something gets hung up. Doing it by hand gives you
? the opportunity to clear the snag before you break something.
? Still, there are limits as we get older. I spuing for a new windlass
? that handles chain because I realized, at age 71, that hauling a
? 35-pound anchor and 80 feet of chain was taxing my strength.
? I also find myself occasionally using the winch to haul in the furling
? jib, even though that was not an issue just a few years ago.
? Jack BrennanCatalina 320
? Sonas, 1998 Caalina 320
? Tierra Verde, Fl.
? ________________________________
? From: C320-list <c320-lis...@lists.catalina320.com> on behalf of
? David Wellerstein via C320-list <c320...@lists.catalina320.com>
? Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2025 11:00 PM
? To: C320...@catalina320.com <C320...@catalina320.com>
? Cc: David Wellerstein <dwel...@mac.com>
? Subject: [C320-list] Electric winch
? Hi all!
? Out on the Bay today, 20 knots steady with gusts to 25.? Great day to
? be out (there were so few boats out) and lunch at Angel Island is
? always a treat.? First outing of the season and we had a few issues but
? all in all a great day!
? Taking the main up and down, especially at our ages, is getting to be
? pretty tiring and especially if we have to do it twice on a sail.? I
? thought maybe an electric winch for the starboard cabin top to raise
? the main would be perfect until I checked the prices.? Wow.? Looks to
? be about $5k just for the winch and probably quite a bit for
? installation.
? So, anyone have any thoughts on tactics for main management for alta
? k?s (IYKYK) like me?? A new boat with a furling main would be cool but
? not in the cards, at least not for awhile.
? Thanks as always and a special shout out to Bob B. for his help with my
? under sink water issue(s).? This group is a life, boat, and sanity
? saver!
? ?David
? C320 #118 ?Dream Catcher"
? David Wellerstein | dwel...@mac.com | 925.301.6581 (m)

References

? 1. https://dianefowler.eresuccess.com/
? 2. mailto:dian...@aol.com
 

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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 12 May 2025 07:51:18 -0400
From: SV Osprey <svospre...@gmail.com>
To: C320...@catalina320.com
Cc: Jack Brennan <jackbre...@outlook.com>,
    C320...@catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] Electric winch
Message-ID: <B477852D-D6AE-4DF1...@gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;    charset=utf-8

Here?s a link to a chuck that fits on an electric drill for less ?torquey? lifting? But you would lose the?feel? like Jack says.

https://a.co/d/fS0k57v

I feel you. My shoulder is need of cortisone after a struggle with the main winch. ?

Elan
Sv Osprey
1997 Catalina 320 #451

> On May 11, 2025, at 11:34?PM, Jack Brennan via C320-list <c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
>
> ?I view winch and sail handling as a good excuse for not going to the gym. :)
>
> Regular use of silicone lube on the main sail track is extremely helpful. I have a Dutchman system, and it also helps to loosen the topping lift before cranking the main up, as does pointing directly into the wind.
>
> A drawback to electric winchs and drills with fittings is that you don't realize when something gets hung up. Doing it by hand gives you the opportunity to clear the snag before you break something.
>
> Still, there are limits as we get older. I spuing for a new windlass that handles chain because I realized, at age 71, that hauling a 35-pound anchor and 80 feet of chain was taxing my strength.
>
> I also find myself occasionally using the winch to haul in the furling jib, even though that was not an issue just a few years ago.
>
> Jack BrennanCatalina 320
> Sonas, 1998 Caalina 320
> Tierra Verde, Fl.
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: C320-list <c320-lis...@lists.catalina320.com> on behalf of David Wellerstein via C320-list <c320...@lists.catalina320.com>
> Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2025 11:00 PM
> To: C320...@catalina320.com <C320...@catalina320.com>
> Cc: David Wellerstein <dwel...@mac.com>
> Subject: [C320-list] Electric winch
>
> Hi all!
>
> Out on the Bay today, 20 knots steady with gusts to 25.  Great day to be out (there were so few boats out) and lunch at Angel Island is always a treat.  First outing of the season and we had a few issues but all in all a great day!
>
> Taking the main up and down, especially at our ages, is getting to be pretty tiring and especially if we have to do it twice on a sail.  I thought maybe an electric winch for the starboard cabin top to raise the main would be perfect until I checked the prices.  Wow.  Looks to be about $5k just for the winch and probably quite a bit for installation.
>
> So, anyone have any thoughts on tactics for main management for alta k?s (IYKYK) like me?  A new boat with a furling main would be cool but not in the cards, at least not for awhile.
>
> Thanks as always and a special shout out to Bob B. for his help with my under sink water issue(s).  This group is a life, boat, and sanity saver!
>
> ?David
>
> C320 #118 ?Dream Catcher"
>
> David Wellerstein | dwel...@mac.com | 925.301.6581 (m)
>


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Jeff hecht via C320-list

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I keep an electric winch handle onboard https://g.co/kgs/PGKkH2T. I love it. Just be careful when the main is raised to the top, it will pull in on you a bit.

Regards,

Jeff Hecht
973-563-5260

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@Jeff - I'd encourage you to stop short of raising it all the way with the power winch and use a manual winch handle to precent over tightening and snapping something. Losing the main halyard to save a minute and a couple turns on the winch would be regrettable.

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