Re: [C320-list] C320-list Digest, Vol 5052, Issue 1
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The line that has to be taught is the Topping Lift. The Dutchman monofilament lines require approximately 3”- 4” of slack in each line. When the sail is doused, the slack in the monofilament lines is taken up by the sail flaking on top of the boom. The main sheet can have a little slack as well so the sail can stay on the wind line even if the boat is not exactly dead into the wind.
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1. Re: full batten main (Dave Hupe)
2. Re: full batten main (Dave Hupe)
3. Re: full batten main (Troy Dunn)
4. Re: full batten main (jackbrennan)
5. Re: full batten main (Dave Hupe)
6. Re: full batten main (Tim Van de Water)
7. water pump/faucet (Louis Friedman)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 22 May 2026 20:20:57 +0000 (UTC)
From: Dave Hupe <hoop...@yahoo.com>
To: C320...@Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] full batten main
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Sounds like you don't have your outhaul tight enough.
Dave Hupe
1994 C320 #32
Yahoo Mail: Search, Organize, Conquer
On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 3:41 PM, Steven Morgan via C320-list<c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote: I had the same question regarding how the Dutchman works with a loose footed main.? I have one and I can?t get the Dutchman filament lines tight enough to flake the sail without pulling up on the bottom of the sail and Dutchman pockets along the bottom??
Thanks
Steve Morgan
C320 1995
?Salt Shaker?
> On May 22, 2026, at 1:48?PM, Jarrett Henderson via C320-list <c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
>
> ?How does the Dutchman system workout with a loose footed main? I would love to have a loose footed main so the feeding system could be rigged as blueprinted. Wasn?t sure how being loose footed worked out with the Dutchman system.
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 22, 2026, at 10:59?AM, Tim Van de Water via C320-list <c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?I just had my mainsail cut to make it loose footed. I put the battens back in one at a time as I raised the sail. I motored out to a mooring ball to do it so we would be into the wind. I have a Dutchman too. I just replaced the topping lift and other running rigging with the Dutchman. I can see it is going to take a bunch of trial and error to get it set up right?
>>
>> Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>> ________________________________
>> From: C320-list <c320-lis...@lists.catalina320.com> on behalf of Dave Hupe via C320-list <c320...@lists.catalina320.com>
>> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2026 8:38:26 AM
>> To: C320...@Catalina320.com <C320...@Catalina320.com>
>> Cc: Dave Hupe <hoop...@yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] full batten main
>>
>> I lay out my loose footed main on the forward deck inside the stays still flaked and insert my battens. Next I tie it up loosely with sail ties and shift it forward enough where I can lift up the rear end and start it into the boom track. I support the forward end of the bundle with my mail halyard hooked to a sail tie. I gradually keep moving the bundle aft onto the boom, having to untie and tie sail ties repeatedly around the boom vang and sheet blocks/rigging.? Once the whole bundle is on the boom, I connect the tack and clew and insert the mast slugs. I then connect up the topping lift/Dutchman and hoist that enough to start to take out the slack. At this point, I hoist the sail and continue to simultaneously tighten the topping lift and adjust the Dutchman.? I am able to do this alone but it is cumbersome and time-consuming (but controllable).? Obviously wind must be low and on the nose. I reverse the procedure to remove the sail.
>> Dave Hupe
>> 1994 C320 #32
>>
>> Yahoo Mail: Search, Organize, Conquer
>>
>> On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 9:12 AM, Louis Friedman via C320-list<c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:? that's pretty much our routine minus the loose footed main.? My next
>> mainsail will be loose footed I think. We have a dutchman as well and I
>> think I don't have it adjusted quite right.
>> I can never get it to flake as nicely as the videos online that Dutchman
>> has!
>>
>>> On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 8:36?AM John Stetson via C320-list <
>>> c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> We went with a loose-footed main to allow greater adjustment with the
>>> outhaul. We attach the tack then the clew to the boom, and connect the
>>> Dutchman to the topping lift and aft-end of the boom. We take up the slack
>>> in the topping lift to minimize monofilament tangles. It is then a
>>> two-person job to raise the main while feeding the lugs into the track. We
>>> tighten the topping lift and Dutchman, and then insert the battons as we
>>> flake the sail onto the boom.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> John Stetson
>>> Morning Star Again #578
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 7:39?AM mark--- via C320-list <
>>> c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Same thing I do, a two person task. Loose footed sail though as I have a
>>>> stack pack. Open to new ideas
>>>>
>>>>> On May 22, 2026, at 7:12?AM, Louis Friedman via C320-list <
>>>> c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> curious how others put the mainsail on at the beginning of the season.
>>>>> The? previous owner? of our boat put the full battens in as he fed the
>>>>> slugs into the mast track.? I've been doing that the last few years but
>>>> it
>>>>> seems cumbersome - thinking of putting the battens in on land, rolling
>>>>> the sail up and then carrying it to the boat and sliding it in the boom
>>>>> track.? wondering if I'm missing something though.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Lou
>>>>> s/v MissAdventure
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Louis Friedman, DO, FACP
>> Woodbridge Medical Associates
>> www.woodbridgemed.com<http://www.woodbridgemed.com>
>> 732-634-0036
>>
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 22 May 2026 23:03:55 +0000 (UTC)
From: Dave Hupe <hoop...@yahoo.com>
To: "c320...@catalina320.com" <c320...@catalina320.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] full batten main
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Jack-
So you abandoned the Dutchman pockets on the sail bottom entirely??
Dave Hupe
1994 C320 #32
On Friday, May 22, 2026 at 06:19:09 PM EDT, Jack Brennan via C320-list <c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
Correction. I installed them on one side of the boom.
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From: Steven Morgan via C320-list <c320...@lists.catalina320.com>
Date: 5/22/26 3:39 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: C320...@catalina320.com
Cc: Steven Morgan <steve...@gmail.com>, C320...@catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] full batten main
I had the same question regarding how the Dutchman works with a loose footed main.? I have one and I can?t get the Dutchman filament lines tight enough to flake the sail without pulling up on the bottom of the sail and Dutchman pockets along the bottom??
Thanks
Steve Morgan
C320 1995
?Salt Shaker?
> On May 22, 2026, at 1:48?PM, Jarrett Henderson via C320-list <c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
>
> ?How does the Dutchman system workout with a loose footed main? I would love to have a loose footed main so the feeding system could be rigged as blueprinted. Wasn?t sure how being loose footed worked out with the Dutchman system.
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 22, 2026, at 10:59?AM, Tim Van de Water via C320-list <c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?I just had my mainsail cut to make it loose footed. I put the battens back in one at a time as I raised the sail. I motored out to a mooring ball to do it so we would be into the wind. I have a Dutchman too. I just replaced the topping lift and other running rigging with the Dutchman. I can see it is going to take a bunch of trial and error to get it set up right?
>>
>> Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>> ________________________________
>> From: C320-list <c320-lis...@lists.catalina320.com> on behalf of Dave Hupe via C320-list <c320...@lists.catalina320.com>
>> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2026 8:38:26 AM
>> To: C320...@Catalina320.com <C320...@Catalina320.com>
>> Cc: Dave Hupe <hoop...@yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] full batten main
>>
>> I lay out my loose footed main on the forward deck inside the stays still flaked and insert my battens. Next I tie it up loosely with sail ties and shift it forward enough where I can lift up the rear end and start it into the boom track. I support the forward end of the bundle with my mail halyard hooked to a sail tie. I gradually keep moving the bundle aft onto the boom, having to untie and tie sail ties repeatedly around the boom vang and sheet blocks/rigging.? Once the whole bundle is on the boom, I connect the tack and clew and insert the mast slugs. I then connect up the topping lift/Dutchman and hoist that enough to start to take out the slack. At this point, I hoist the sail and continue to simultaneously tighten the topping lift and adjust the Dutchman.? I am able to do this alone but it is cumbersome and time-consuming (but controllable).? Obviously wind must be low and on the nose. I reverse the procedure to remove the sail.
>> Dave Hupe
>> 1994 C320 #32
>>
>> Yahoo Mail: Search, Organize, Conquer
>>
>> On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 9:12 AM, Louis Friedman via C320-list<c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:? that's pretty much our routine minus the loose footed main.? My next
>> mainsail will be loose footed I think. We have a dutchman as well and I
>> think I don't have it adjusted quite right.
>> I can never get it to flake as nicely as the videos online that Dutchman
>> has!
>>
>>> On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 8:36?AM John Stetson via C320-list <
>>> c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> We went with a loose-footed main to allow greater adjustment with the
>>> outhaul. We attach the tack then the clew to the boom, and connect the
>>> Dutchman to the topping lift and aft-end of the boom. We take up the slack
>>> in the topping lift to minimize monofilament tangles. It is then a
>>> two-person job to raise the main while feeding the lugs into the track. We
>>> tighten the topping lift and Dutchman, and then insert the battons as we
>>> flake the sail onto the boom.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> John Stetson
>>> Morning Star Again #578
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 7:39?AM mark--- via C320-list <
>>> c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Same thing I do, a two person task. Loose footed sail though as I have a
>>>> stack pack. Open to new ideas
>>>>
>>>>> On May 22, 2026, at 7:12?AM, Louis Friedman via C320-list <
>>>> c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> curious how others put the mainsail on at the beginning of the season.
>>>>> The? previous owner? of our boat put the full battens in as he fed the
>>>>> slugs into the mast track.? I've been doing that the last few years but
>>>> it
>>>>> seems cumbersome - thinking of putting the battens in on land, rolling
>>>>> the sail up and then carrying it to the boat and sliding it in the boom
>>>>> track.? wondering if I'm missing something though.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Lou
>>>>> s/v MissAdventure
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Louis Friedman, DO, FACP
>> Woodbridge Medical Associates
>> www.woodbridgemed.com<http://www.woodbridgemed.com><http://www.woodbridgemed.com<http://www.woodbridgemed.com>>
>> 732-634-0036
>>
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 22 May 2026 19:13:22 -0400
From: Troy Dunn <troutw...@gmail.com>
To: C320...@catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] full batten main
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We have a stack pack, and we are loose footed. I loosen the lazy jacks so
the stack pack is a bit lower than normal and I lay the main across the
boom and then roll it down the boom. You have to roll it up this way in
the fall after cleaning to make that part a piece of cake. I then attach
the clew, insert the slugs, put the battens in one at a time (it really
doesn?t matter what order but it helps to have someone tug the other end
tight), then secure the tack and the gate. Usually take about 10 minutes.
It actually takes me longer to slide the stack pack into the boom slot
and get it properly configured with the lazy jacks. Should it? Probably
not. It would all be quicker but we have Elvstr?m sails and they have a
funky plastic thing that holds the battens at the luff that is a bit fiddly.
Troy Dunn
Hull #514
On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 6:16?PM Jack Brennan via C320-list <
c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
> Correction. I installed them on one side of the boom.
>
>
>
> Sent from my Galaxy
>
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Steven Morgan via C320-list <c320...@lists.catalina320.com>
> Date: 5/22/26 3:39 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: C320...@catalina320.com
> Cc: Steven Morgan <steve...@gmail.com>, C320...@catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] full batten main
>
> I had the same question regarding how the Dutchman works with a loose
> footed main. I have one and I can?t get the Dutchman filament lines tight
> enough to flake the sail without pulling up on the bottom of the sail and
> Dutchman pockets along the bottom??
>
> Thanks
> Steve Morgan
> C320 1995
> ?Salt Shaker?
>
>
>
> > On May 22, 2026, at 1:48?PM, Jarrett Henderson via C320-list <
> c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
> >
> > ?How does the Dutchman system workout with a loose footed main? I would
> love to have a loose footed main so the feeding system could be rigged as
> blueprinted. Wasn?t sure how being loose footed worked out with the
> Dutchman system.
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On May 22, 2026, at 10:59?AM, Tim Van de Water via C320-list <
> c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> ?I just had my mainsail cut to make it loose footed. I put the battens
> back in one at a time as I raised the sail. I motored out to a mooring ball
> to do it so we would be into the wind. I have a Dutchman too. I just
> replaced the topping lift and other running rigging with the Dutchman. I
> can see it is going to take a bunch of trial and error to get it set up
> right?
> >>
> >> Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: C320-list <c320-lis...@lists.catalina320.com> on behalf of
> Dave Hupe via C320-list <c320...@lists.catalina320.com>
> >> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2026 8:38:26 AM
> >> To: C320...@Catalina320.com <C320...@Catalina320.com>
> >> Cc: Dave Hupe <hoop...@yahoo.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [C320-list] full batten main
> >>
> >> I lay out my loose footed main on the forward deck inside the stays
> still flaked and insert my battens. Next I tie it up loosely with sail ties
> and shift it forward enough where I can lift up the rear end and start it
> into the boom track. I support the forward end of the bundle with my mail
> halyard hooked to a sail tie. I gradually keep moving the bundle aft onto
> the boom, having to untie and tie sail ties repeatedly around the boom vang
> and sheet blocks/rigging. Once the whole bundle is on the boom, I connect
> the tack and clew and insert the mast slugs. I then connect up the topping
> lift/Dutchman and hoist that enough to start to take out the slack. At this
> point, I hoist the sail and continue to simultaneously tighten the topping
> lift and adjust the Dutchman. I am able to do this alone but it is
> cumbersome and time-consuming (but controllable). Obviously wind must be
> low and on the nose. I reverse the procedure to remove the sail.
> >> Dave Hupe
> >> 1994 C320 #32
> >>
> >> Yahoo Mail: Search, Organize, Conquer
> >>
> >> On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 9:12 AM, Louis Friedman via C320-list<
> c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote: that's pretty much our routine
> minus the loose footed main. My next
> >> mainsail will be loose footed I think. We have a dutchman as well and I
> >> think I don't have it adjusted quite right.
> >> I can never get it to flake as nicely as the videos online that Dutchman
> >> has!
> >>
> >>> On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 8:36?AM John Stetson via C320-list <
> >>> c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> We went with a loose-footed main to allow greater adjustment with the
> >>> outhaul. We attach the tack then the clew to the boom, and connect the
> >>> Dutchman to the topping lift and aft-end of the boom. We take up the
> slack
> >>> in the topping lift to minimize monofilament tangles. It is then a
> >>> two-person job to raise the main while feeding the lugs into the
> track. We
> >>> tighten the topping lift and Dutchman, and then insert the battons as
> we
> >>> flake the sail onto the boom.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> John Stetson
> >>> Morning Star Again #578
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 7:39?AM mark--- via C320-list <
> >>> c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Same thing I do, a two person task. Loose footed sail though as I
> have a
> >>>> stack pack. Open to new ideas
> >>>>
> >>>>> On May 22, 2026, at 7:12?AM, Louis Friedman via C320-list <
> >>>> c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> curious how others put the mainsail on at the beginning of the
> season.
> >>>>> The previous owner of our boat put the full battens in as he fed
> the
> >>>>> slugs into the mast track. I've been doing that the last few years
> but
> >>>> it
> >>>>> seems cumbersome - thinking of putting the battens in on land,
> rolling
> >>>>> the sail up and then carrying it to the boat and sliding it in the
> boom
> >>>>> track. wondering if I'm missing something though.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Lou
> >>>>> s/v MissAdventure
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Louis Friedman, DO, FACP
> >> Woodbridge Medical Associates
> >> www.woodbridgemed.com<http://www.woodbridgemed.com><
> http://www.woodbridgemed.com<http://www.woodbridgemed.com>>
> >> 732-634-0036
> >>
>
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Date: Fri, 22 May 2026 21:38:06 -0400
From: jackbrennan <jackb...@bellsouth.net>
To: Dave Hupe via C320-list <c320...@lists.catalina320.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] full batten main
Message-ID: <951164381.74108...@bellsouth.net>
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Yep. They didn't work well for me with a loose-footed main. Also, I didn't find them easy to deal with. The cleats are simple.Jack BrennanSonas, 1998 Catalina 320Sent from my Galaxy
-------- Original message --------From: Dave Hupe via C320-list <c320...@lists.catalina320.com> Date: 5/22/26 7:36 PM (GMT-05:00) To: c320...@catalina320.com Cc: Dave Hupe <hoop...@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [C320-list] full batten main Jack-So you abandoned the Dutchman pockets on the sail bottom entirely??Dave Hupe1994 C320 #32??? On Friday, May 22, 2026 at 06:19:09 PM EDT, Jack Brennan via C320-list <c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:? Correction. I installed them on one side of the boom.Sent from my Galaxy-------- Original message --------From: Steven Morgan via C320-list <c320...@lists.catalina320.com>Date: 5/22/26 3:39 PM (GMT-05:00)To: C320...@catalina320.comCc: Steven Morgan <steve...@gmail.com>, C320...@catalina320.comSubject: Re: [C320-list] full batten mainI had the same question regarding how the Dutchman works with a loose footed main.? I have one and I can?t get the Dutchman filament lines tight enough to flake the sail without pulling up on the bott
om of the sail and Dutchman pockets along the bottom??ThanksSteve MorganC320 1995?Salt Shaker?> On May 22, 2026, at 1:48?PM, Jarrett Henderson via C320-list <c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:>> ?How does the Dutchman system workout with a loose footed main? I would love to have a loose footed main so the feeding system could be rigged as blueprinted. Wasn?t sure how being loose footed worked out with the Dutchman system.> Sent from my iPhone>>> On May 22, 2026, at 10:59?AM, Tim Van de Water via C320-list <c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:>>>> ?I just had my mainsail cut to make it loose footed. I put the battens back in one at a time as I raised the sail. I motored out to a mooring ball to do it so we would be into the wind. I have a Dutchman too. I just replaced the topping lift and other running rigging with the Dutchman. I can see it is going to take a bunch of trial and error to get it set up right?>>>> Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>>> ___________________
_____________>> From: C320-list <c320-lis...@lists.catalina320.com> on behalf of Dave Hupe via C320-list <c320...@lists.catalina320.com>>> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2026 8:38:26 AM>> To: C320...@Catalina320.com <C320...@Catalina320.com>>> Cc: Dave Hupe <hoop...@yahoo.com>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] full batten main>>>> I lay out my loose footed main on the forward deck inside the stays still flaked and insert my battens. Next I tie it up loosely with sail ties and shift it forward enough where I can lift up the rear end and start it into the boom track. I support the forward end of the bundle with my mail halyard hooked to a sail tie. I gradually keep moving the bundle aft onto the boom, having to untie and tie sail ties repeatedly around the boom vang and sheet blocks/rigging.? Once the whole bundle is on the boom, I connect the tack and clew and insert the mast slugs. I then connect up the topping lift/Dutchman and hoist that enough to start to take out the slack. At this
point, I hoist the sail and continue to simultaneously tighten the topping lift and adjust the Dutchman.? I am able to do this alone but it is cumbersome and time-consuming (but controllable).? Obviously wind must be low and on the nose. I reverse the procedure to remove the sail.>> Dave Hupe>> 1994 C320 #32>>>> Yahoo Mail: Search, Organize, Conquer>>>> On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 9:12 AM, Louis Friedman via C320-list<c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:? that's pretty much our routine minus the loose footed main.? My next>> mainsail will be loose footed I think. We have a dutchman as well and I>> think I don't have it adjusted quite right.>> I can never get it to flake as nicely as the videos online that Dutchman>> has!>>>>> On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 8:36?AM John Stetson via C320-list <>>> c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:>>>>>> We went with a loose-footed main to allow greater adjustment with the>>> outhaul. We attach the tack then the clew to the boom, and connect the>>> Dutc
hman to the topping lift and aft-end of the boom. We take up the slack>>> in the topping lift to minimize monofilament tangles. It is then a>>> two-person job to raise the main while feeding the lugs into the track. We>>> tighten the topping lift and Dutchman, and then insert the battons as we>>> flake the sail onto the boom.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John Stetson>>> Morning Star Again #578>>>>>> On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 7:39?AM mark--- via C320-list <>>> c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:>>>>>>> Same thing I do, a two person task. Loose footed sail though as I have a>>>> stack pack. Open to new ideas>>>>>>>>> On May 22, 2026, at 7:12?AM, Louis Friedman via C320-list <>>>> c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:>>>>>>>>>> curious how others put the mainsail on at the beginning of the season.>>>>> The? previous owner? of our boat put the full battens in as he fed the>>>>> slugs into the mast track.? I've been doing that the last few years but>>>> it>>>>> seems cumbersome - thinking of putti
ng the battens in on land, rolling>>>>> the sail up and then carrying it to the boat and sliding it in the boom>>>>> track.? wondering if I'm missing something though.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lou>>>>> s/v MissAdventure>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -->> Louis Friedman, DO, FACP>> Woodbridge Medical Associates>> www.woodbridgemed.com<http://www.woodbridgemed.com><http://www.woodbridgemed.com<http://www.woodbridgemed.com>>>> 732-634-0036>>?
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 23 May 2026 02:02:28 +0000 (UTC)
From: Dave Hupe <hoop...@yahoo.com>
To: <C320...@Catalina320.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] full batten main
Message-ID: <990842509.48023...@mail.yahoo.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Sorry ......correction .... I don't? have a loose footed main ... the foot has the bolt rope that I slide gradually into the boom slot per my procedure below.
Dave Hupe?
Yahoo Mail: Search, Organize, Conquer
On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 9:38 AM, Dave Hupe<hoop...@yahoo.com> wrote: I lay out my loose footed main on the forward deck inside the stays still flaked and insert my battens. Next I tie it up loosely with sail ties and shift it forward enough where I can lift up the rear end and start it into the boom track. I support the forward end of the bundle with my mail halyard hooked to a sail tie. I gradually keep moving the bundle aft onto the boom, having to untie and tie sail ties repeatedly around the boom vang and sheet blocks/rigging.? Once the whole bundle is on the boom, I connect the tack and clew and insert the mast slugs. I then connect up the topping lift/Dutchman and hoist that enough to start to take out the slack. At this point, I hoist the sail and continue to simultaneously tighten the topping lift and adjust the Dutchman.? I am able to do this alone but it is cumbersome and time-consuming (but controllable).? Obviously wind must be low and on the nose. I reverse the proc
edure to remove the sail.?
Dave Hupe?
1994 C320 #32
Yahoo Mail: Search, Organize, Conquer
On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 9:12 AM, Louis Friedman via C320-list<c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote: that's pretty much our routine minus the loose footed main.? My next
mainsail will be loose footed I think. We have a dutchman as well and I
think I don't have it adjusted quite right.
I can never get it to flake as nicely as the videos online that Dutchman
has!
On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 8:36?AM John Stetson via C320-list <
c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
> We went with a loose-footed main to allow greater adjustment with the
> outhaul. We attach the tack then the clew to the boom, and connect the
> Dutchman to the topping lift and aft-end of the boom. We take up the slack
> in the topping lift to minimize monofilament tangles. It is then a
> two-person job to raise the main while feeding the lugs into the track. We
> tighten the topping lift and Dutchman, and then insert the battons as we
> flake the sail onto the boom.
>
>
>
>
> John Stetson
> Morning Star Again #578
>
> On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 7:39?AM mark--- via C320-list <
> c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
>
> > Same thing I do, a two person task. Loose footed sail though as I have a
> > stack pack. Open to new ideas
> >
> > > On May 22, 2026, at 7:12?AM, Louis Friedman via C320-list <
> > c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > curious how others put the mainsail on at the beginning of the season.
> > > The? previous owner? of our boat put the full battens in as he fed the
> > > slugs into the mast track.? I've been doing that the last few years but
> > it
> > > seems cumbersome - thinking of putting the battens in on land, rolling
> > > the sail up and then carrying it to the boat and sliding it in the boom
> > > track.? wondering if I'm missing something though.
> > >
> > >
> > > Lou
> > > s/v MissAdventure
> >
> >
>
--
Louis Friedman, DO, FACP
Woodbridge Medical Associates
www.woodbridgemed.com
732-634-0036
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 23 May 2026 15:55:47 +0000
From: Tim Van de Water <tj.van...@gmail.com>
To: "C320...@Catalina320.com" <C320...@Catalina320.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] full batten main
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I just bent on the mail that I had cut during other repairs. I have made a first pass at reconfiguring the Dutchman, but it still needs adjusting. Will let you known if the pockets on the sail don?t work.
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Subject: Re: [C320-list] full batten main
Sorry ......correction .... I don't have a loose footed main ... the foot has the bolt rope that I slide gradually into the boom slot per my procedure below.
Dave Hupe
Yahoo Mail: Search, Organize, Conquer
On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 9:38 AM, Dave Hupe<hoop...@yahoo.com> wrote: I lay out my loose footed main on the forward deck inside the stays still flaked and insert my battens. Next I tie it up loosely with sail ties and shift it forward enough where I can lift up the rear end and start it into the boom track. I support the forward end of the bundle with my mail halyard hooked to a sail tie. I gradually keep moving the bundle aft onto the boom, having to untie and tie sail ties repeatedly around the boom vang and sheet blocks/rigging. Once the whole bundle is on the boom, I connect the tack and clew and insert the mast slugs. I then connect up the topping lift/Dutchman and hoist that enough to start to take out the slack. At this point, I hoist the sail and continue to simultaneously tighten the topping lift and adjust the Dutchman. I am able to do this alone but it is cumbersome and time-consuming (but controllable). Obviously wind must be low and on the nose. I reverse the proc
edure to remove the sail.
Dave Hupe
1994 C320 #32
Yahoo Mail: Search, Organize, Conquer
On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 9:12 AM, Louis Friedman via C320-list<c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote: that's pretty much our routine minus the loose footed main. My next
mainsail will be loose footed I think. We have a dutchman as well and I
think I don't have it adjusted quite right.
I can never get it to flake as nicely as the videos online that Dutchman
has!
On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 8:36?AM John Stetson via C320-list <
c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
> We went with a loose-footed main to allow greater adjustment with the
> outhaul. We attach the tack then the clew to the boom, and connect the
> Dutchman to the topping lift and aft-end of the boom. We take up the slack
> in the topping lift to minimize monofilament tangles. It is then a
> two-person job to raise the main while feeding the lugs into the track. We
> tighten the topping lift and Dutchman, and then insert the battons as we
> flake the sail onto the boom.
>
>
>
>
> John Stetson
> Morning Star Again #578
>
> On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 7:39?AM mark--- via C320-list <
> c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
>
> > Same thing I do, a two person task. Loose footed sail though as I have a
> > stack pack. Open to new ideas
> >
> > > On May 22, 2026, at 7:12?AM, Louis Friedman via C320-list <
> > c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > curious how others put the mainsail on at the beginning of the season.
> > > The previous owner of our boat put the full battens in as he fed the
> > > slugs into the mast track. I've been doing that the last few years but
> > it
> > > seems cumbersome - thinking of putting the battens in on land, rolling
> > > the sail up and then carrying it to the boat and sliding it in the boom
> > > track. wondering if I'm missing something though.
> > >
> > >
> > > Lou
> > > s/v MissAdventure
> >
> >
>
--
Louis Friedman, DO, FACP
Woodbridge Medical Associates
www.woodbridgemed.com<http://www.woodbridgemed.com>
732-634-0036
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 23 May 2026 13:52:30 -0400
From: Louis Friedman <lou...@gmail.com>
To: "C320...@catalina320.com" <C320...@catalina320.com>
Subject: [C320-list] water pump/faucet
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going to ask one more question of this crowd that is far more experienced
than me with this boat -
I had the yard winterize the water system last year. When I now fill the
tank and turn on the faucet- I get a dribble of antifreeze(presumably what
is in the pipes) but then just air. I understand there is some air in the
system and what I read online it looks like maybe up to 5 minutes but I've
gone beyond that with no water from the faucet. Thinking there's a valve
somewhere near the rear tank that needs opening but I cannot find anything.
Lou
s/v MissAdventure
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3. Re: full batten main (Troy Dunn)
4. Re: full batten main (jackbrennan)
5. Re: full batten main (Dave Hupe)
6. Re: full batten main (Tim Van de Water)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 22 May 2026 20:20:57 +0000 (UTC)
From: Dave Hupe <hoop...@yahoo.com>
To: C320...@Catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] full batten main
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Sounds like you don't have your outhaul tight enough.
Dave Hupe
1994 C320 #32
Yahoo Mail: Search, Organize, Conquer
On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 3:41 PM, Steven Morgan via C320-list<c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote: I had the same question regarding how the Dutchman works with a loose footed main.? I have one and I can?t get the Dutchman filament lines tight enough to flake the sail without pulling up on the bottom of the sail and Dutchman pockets along the bottom??
Thanks
Steve Morgan
C320 1995
?Salt Shaker?
> On May 22, 2026, at 1:48?PM, Jarrett Henderson via C320-list <c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
>
> ?How does the Dutchman system workout with a loose footed main? I would love to have a loose footed main so the feeding system could be rigged as blueprinted. Wasn?t sure how being loose footed worked out with the Dutchman system.
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 22, 2026, at 10:59?AM, Tim Van de Water via C320-list <c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?I just had my mainsail cut to make it loose footed. I put the battens back in one at a time as I raised the sail. I motored out to a mooring ball to do it so we would be into the wind. I have a Dutchman too. I just replaced the topping lift and other running rigging with the Dutchman. I can see it is going to take a bunch of trial and error to get it set up right?
>>
>> Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>> ________________________________
>> From: C320-list <c320-lis...@lists.catalina320.com> on behalf of Dave Hupe via C320-list <c320...@lists.catalina320.com>
>> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2026 8:38:26 AM
>> To: C320...@Catalina320.com <C320...@Catalina320.com>
>> Cc: Dave Hupe <hoop...@yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] full batten main
>>
>> I lay out my loose footed main on the forward deck inside the stays still flaked and insert my battens. Next I tie it up loosely with sail ties and shift it forward enough where I can lift up the rear end and start it into the boom track. I support the forward end of the bundle with my mail halyard hooked to a sail tie. I gradually keep moving the bundle aft onto the boom, having to untie and tie sail ties repeatedly around the boom vang and sheet blocks/rigging.? Once the whole bundle is on the boom, I connect the tack and clew and insert the mast slugs. I then connect up the topping lift/Dutchman and hoist that enough to start to take out the slack. At this point, I hoist the sail and continue to simultaneously tighten the topping lift and adjust the Dutchman.? I am able to do this alone but it is cumbersome and time-consuming (but controllable).? Obviously wind must be low and on the nose. I reverse the procedure to remove the sail.
>> Dave Hupe
>> 1994 C320 #32
>>
>> Yahoo Mail: Search, Organize, Conquer
>>
>> On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 9:12 AM, Louis Friedman via C320-list<c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:? that's pretty much our routine minus the loose footed main.? My next
>> mainsail will be loose footed I think. We have a dutchman as well and I
>> think I don't have it adjusted quite right.
>> I can never get it to flake as nicely as the videos online that Dutchman
>> has!
>>
>>> On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 8:36?AM John Stetson via C320-list <
>>> c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> We went with a loose-footed main to allow greater adjustment with the
>>> outhaul. We attach the tack then the clew to the boom, and connect the
>>> Dutchman to the topping lift and aft-end of the boom. We take up the slack
>>> in the topping lift to minimize monofilament tangles. It is then a
>>> two-person job to raise the main while feeding the lugs into the track. We
>>> tighten the topping lift and Dutchman, and then insert the battons as we
>>> flake the sail onto the boom.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> John Stetson
>>> Morning Star Again #578
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 7:39?AM mark--- via C320-list <
>>> c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Same thing I do, a two person task. Loose footed sail though as I have a
>>>> stack pack. Open to new ideas
>>>>
>>>>> On May 22, 2026, at 7:12?AM, Louis Friedman via C320-list <
>>>> c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> curious how others put the mainsail on at the beginning of the season.
>>>>> The? previous owner? of our boat put the full battens in as he fed the
>>>>> slugs into the mast track.? I've been doing that the last few years but
>>>> it
>>>>> seems cumbersome - thinking of putting the battens in on land, rolling
>>>>> the sail up and then carrying it to the boat and sliding it in the boom
>>>>> track.? wondering if I'm missing something though.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Lou
>>>>> s/v MissAdventure
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Louis Friedman, DO, FACP
>> Woodbridge Medical Associates
>> www.woodbridgemed.com<http://www.woodbridgemed.com>
>> 732-634-0036
>>
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 22 May 2026 23:03:55 +0000 (UTC)
From: Dave Hupe <hoop...@yahoo.com>
To: "c320...@catalina320.com" <c320...@catalina320.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] full batten main
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Jack-
So you abandoned the Dutchman pockets on the sail bottom entirely??
Dave Hupe
1994 C320 #32
On Friday, May 22, 2026 at 06:19:09 PM EDT, Jack Brennan via C320-list <c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
Correction. I installed them on one side of the boom.
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-------- Original message --------
From: Steven Morgan via C320-list <c320...@lists.catalina320.com>
Date: 5/22/26 3:39 PM (GMT-05:00)
To: C320...@catalina320.com
Cc: Steven Morgan <steve...@gmail.com>, C320...@catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] full batten main
I had the same question regarding how the Dutchman works with a loose footed main.? I have one and I can?t get the Dutchman filament lines tight enough to flake the sail without pulling up on the bottom of the sail and Dutchman pockets along the bottom??
Thanks
Steve Morgan
C320 1995
?Salt Shaker?
> On May 22, 2026, at 1:48?PM, Jarrett Henderson via C320-list <c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
>
> ?How does the Dutchman system workout with a loose footed main? I would love to have a loose footed main so the feeding system could be rigged as blueprinted. Wasn?t sure how being loose footed worked out with the Dutchman system.
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 22, 2026, at 10:59?AM, Tim Van de Water via C320-list <c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
>>
>> ?I just had my mainsail cut to make it loose footed. I put the battens back in one at a time as I raised the sail. I motored out to a mooring ball to do it so we would be into the wind. I have a Dutchman too. I just replaced the topping lift and other running rigging with the Dutchman. I can see it is going to take a bunch of trial and error to get it set up right?
>>
>> Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
>> ________________________________
>> From: C320-list <c320-lis...@lists.catalina320.com> on behalf of Dave Hupe via C320-list <c320...@lists.catalina320.com>
>> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2026 8:38:26 AM
>> To: C320...@Catalina320.com <C320...@Catalina320.com>
>> Cc: Dave Hupe <hoop...@yahoo.com>
>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] full batten main
>>
>> I lay out my loose footed main on the forward deck inside the stays still flaked and insert my battens. Next I tie it up loosely with sail ties and shift it forward enough where I can lift up the rear end and start it into the boom track. I support the forward end of the bundle with my mail halyard hooked to a sail tie. I gradually keep moving the bundle aft onto the boom, having to untie and tie sail ties repeatedly around the boom vang and sheet blocks/rigging.? Once the whole bundle is on the boom, I connect the tack and clew and insert the mast slugs. I then connect up the topping lift/Dutchman and hoist that enough to start to take out the slack. At this point, I hoist the sail and continue to simultaneously tighten the topping lift and adjust the Dutchman.? I am able to do this alone but it is cumbersome and time-consuming (but controllable).? Obviously wind must be low and on the nose. I reverse the procedure to remove the sail.
>> Dave Hupe
>> 1994 C320 #32
>>
>> Yahoo Mail: Search, Organize, Conquer
>>
>> On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 9:12 AM, Louis Friedman via C320-list<c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:? that's pretty much our routine minus the loose footed main.? My next
>> mainsail will be loose footed I think. We have a dutchman as well and I
>> think I don't have it adjusted quite right.
>> I can never get it to flake as nicely as the videos online that Dutchman
>> has!
>>
>>> On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 8:36?AM John Stetson via C320-list <
>>> c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> We went with a loose-footed main to allow greater adjustment with the
>>> outhaul. We attach the tack then the clew to the boom, and connect the
>>> Dutchman to the topping lift and aft-end of the boom. We take up the slack
>>> in the topping lift to minimize monofilament tangles. It is then a
>>> two-person job to raise the main while feeding the lugs into the track. We
>>> tighten the topping lift and Dutchman, and then insert the battons as we
>>> flake the sail onto the boom.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> John Stetson
>>> Morning Star Again #578
>>>
>>> On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 7:39?AM mark--- via C320-list <
>>> c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Same thing I do, a two person task. Loose footed sail though as I have a
>>>> stack pack. Open to new ideas
>>>>
>>>>> On May 22, 2026, at 7:12?AM, Louis Friedman via C320-list <
>>>> c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> curious how others put the mainsail on at the beginning of the season.
>>>>> The? previous owner? of our boat put the full battens in as he fed the
>>>>> slugs into the mast track.? I've been doing that the last few years but
>>>> it
>>>>> seems cumbersome - thinking of putting the battens in on land, rolling
>>>>> the sail up and then carrying it to the boat and sliding it in the boom
>>>>> track.? wondering if I'm missing something though.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Lou
>>>>> s/v MissAdventure
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Louis Friedman, DO, FACP
>> Woodbridge Medical Associates
>> www.woodbridgemed.com<http://www.woodbridgemed.com><http://www.woodbridgemed.com<http://www.woodbridgemed.com>>
>> 732-634-0036
>>
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 22 May 2026 19:13:22 -0400
From: Troy Dunn <troutw...@gmail.com>
To: C320...@catalina320.com
Subject: Re: [C320-list] full batten main
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We have a stack pack, and we are loose footed. I loosen the lazy jacks so
the stack pack is a bit lower than normal and I lay the main across the
boom and then roll it down the boom. You have to roll it up this way in
the fall after cleaning to make that part a piece of cake. I then attach
the clew, insert the slugs, put the battens in one at a time (it really
doesn?t matter what order but it helps to have someone tug the other end
tight), then secure the tack and the gate. Usually take about 10 minutes.
It actually takes me longer to slide the stack pack into the boom slot
and get it properly configured with the lazy jacks. Should it? Probably
not. It would all be quicker but we have Elvstr?m sails and they have a
funky plastic thing that holds the battens at the luff that is a bit fiddly.
Troy Dunn
Hull #514
On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 6:16?PM Jack Brennan via C320-list <
c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
> Correction. I installed them on one side of the boom.
>
>
>
> Sent from my Galaxy
>
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
> From: Steven Morgan via C320-list <c320...@lists.catalina320.com>
> Date: 5/22/26 3:39 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: C320...@catalina320.com
> Cc: Steven Morgan <steve...@gmail.com>, C320...@catalina320.com
> Subject: Re: [C320-list] full batten main
>
> I had the same question regarding how the Dutchman works with a loose
> footed main. I have one and I can?t get the Dutchman filament lines tight
> enough to flake the sail without pulling up on the bottom of the sail and
> Dutchman pockets along the bottom??
>
> Thanks
> Steve Morgan
> C320 1995
> ?Salt Shaker?
>
>
>
> > On May 22, 2026, at 1:48?PM, Jarrett Henderson via C320-list <
> c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
> >
> > ?How does the Dutchman system workout with a loose footed main? I would
> love to have a loose footed main so the feeding system could be rigged as
> blueprinted. Wasn?t sure how being loose footed worked out with the
> Dutchman system.
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On May 22, 2026, at 10:59?AM, Tim Van de Water via C320-list <
> c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> ?I just had my mainsail cut to make it loose footed. I put the battens
> back in one at a time as I raised the sail. I motored out to a mooring ball
> to do it so we would be into the wind. I have a Dutchman too. I just
> replaced the topping lift and other running rigging with the Dutchman. I
> can see it is going to take a bunch of trial and error to get it set up
> right?
> >>
> >> Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: C320-list <c320-lis...@lists.catalina320.com> on behalf of
> Dave Hupe via C320-list <c320...@lists.catalina320.com>
> >> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2026 8:38:26 AM
> >> To: C320...@Catalina320.com <C320...@Catalina320.com>
> >> Cc: Dave Hupe <hoop...@yahoo.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [C320-list] full batten main
> >>
> >> I lay out my loose footed main on the forward deck inside the stays
> still flaked and insert my battens. Next I tie it up loosely with sail ties
> and shift it forward enough where I can lift up the rear end and start it
> into the boom track. I support the forward end of the bundle with my mail
> halyard hooked to a sail tie. I gradually keep moving the bundle aft onto
> the boom, having to untie and tie sail ties repeatedly around the boom vang
> and sheet blocks/rigging. Once the whole bundle is on the boom, I connect
> the tack and clew and insert the mast slugs. I then connect up the topping
> lift/Dutchman and hoist that enough to start to take out the slack. At this
> point, I hoist the sail and continue to simultaneously tighten the topping
> lift and adjust the Dutchman. I am able to do this alone but it is
> cumbersome and time-consuming (but controllable). Obviously wind must be
> low and on the nose. I reverse the procedure to remove the sail.
> >> Dave Hupe
> >> 1994 C320 #32
> >>
> >> Yahoo Mail: Search, Organize, Conquer
> >>
> >> On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 9:12 AM, Louis Friedman via C320-list<
> c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote: that's pretty much our routine
> minus the loose footed main. My next
> >> mainsail will be loose footed I think. We have a dutchman as well and I
> >> think I don't have it adjusted quite right.
> >> I can never get it to flake as nicely as the videos online that Dutchman
> >> has!
> >>
> >>> On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 8:36?AM John Stetson via C320-list <
> >>> c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> We went with a loose-footed main to allow greater adjustment with the
> >>> outhaul. We attach the tack then the clew to the boom, and connect the
> >>> Dutchman to the topping lift and aft-end of the boom. We take up the
> slack
> >>> in the topping lift to minimize monofilament tangles. It is then a
> >>> two-person job to raise the main while feeding the lugs into the
> track. We
> >>> tighten the topping lift and Dutchman, and then insert the battons as
> we
> >>> flake the sail onto the boom.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> John Stetson
> >>> Morning Star Again #578
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 7:39?AM mark--- via C320-list <
> >>> c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Same thing I do, a two person task. Loose footed sail though as I
> have a
> >>>> stack pack. Open to new ideas
> >>>>
> >>>>> On May 22, 2026, at 7:12?AM, Louis Friedman via C320-list <
> >>>> c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> curious how others put the mainsail on at the beginning of the
> season.
> >>>>> The previous owner of our boat put the full battens in as he fed
> the
> >>>>> slugs into the mast track. I've been doing that the last few years
> but
> >>>> it
> >>>>> seems cumbersome - thinking of putting the battens in on land,
> rolling
> >>>>> the sail up and then carrying it to the boat and sliding it in the
> boom
> >>>>> track. wondering if I'm missing something though.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Lou
> >>>>> s/v MissAdventure
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Louis Friedman, DO, FACP
> >> Woodbridge Medical Associates
> >> www.woodbridgemed.com<http://www.woodbridgemed.com><
> http://www.woodbridgemed.com<http://www.woodbridgemed.com>>
> >> 732-634-0036
> >>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 22 May 2026 21:38:06 -0400
From: jackbrennan <jackb...@bellsouth.net>
To: Dave Hupe via C320-list <c320...@lists.catalina320.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] full batten main
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Yep. They didn't work well for me with a loose-footed main. Also, I didn't find them easy to deal with. The cleats are simple.Jack BrennanSonas, 1998 Catalina 320Sent from my Galaxy
-------- Original message --------From: Dave Hupe via C320-list <c320...@lists.catalina320.com> Date: 5/22/26 7:36 PM (GMT-05:00) To: c320...@catalina320.com Cc: Dave Hupe <hoop...@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [C320-list] full batten main Jack-So you abandoned the Dutchman pockets on the sail bottom entirely??Dave Hupe1994 C320 #32??? On Friday, May 22, 2026 at 06:19:09 PM EDT, Jack Brennan via C320-list <c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:? Correction. I installed them on one side of the boom.Sent from my Galaxy-------- Original message --------From: Steven Morgan via C320-list <c320...@lists.catalina320.com>Date: 5/22/26 3:39 PM (GMT-05:00)To: C320...@catalina320.comCc: Steven Morgan <steve...@gmail.com>, C320...@catalina320.comSubject: Re: [C320-list] full batten mainI had the same question regarding how the Dutchman works with a loose footed main.? I have one and I can?t get the Dutchman filament lines tight enough to flake the sail without pulling up on the bott
om of the sail and Dutchman pockets along the bottom??ThanksSteve MorganC320 1995?Salt Shaker?> On May 22, 2026, at 1:48?PM, Jarrett Henderson via C320-list <c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:>> ?How does the Dutchman system workout with a loose footed main? I would love to have a loose footed main so the feeding system could be rigged as blueprinted. Wasn?t sure how being loose footed worked out with the Dutchman system.> Sent from my iPhone>>> On May 22, 2026, at 10:59?AM, Tim Van de Water via C320-list <c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:>>>> ?I just had my mainsail cut to make it loose footed. I put the battens back in one at a time as I raised the sail. I motored out to a mooring ball to do it so we would be into the wind. I have a Dutchman too. I just replaced the topping lift and other running rigging with the Dutchman. I can see it is going to take a bunch of trial and error to get it set up right?>>>> Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>>> ___________________
_____________>> From: C320-list <c320-lis...@lists.catalina320.com> on behalf of Dave Hupe via C320-list <c320...@lists.catalina320.com>>> Sent: Friday, May 22, 2026 8:38:26 AM>> To: C320...@Catalina320.com <C320...@Catalina320.com>>> Cc: Dave Hupe <hoop...@yahoo.com>>> Subject: Re: [C320-list] full batten main>>>> I lay out my loose footed main on the forward deck inside the stays still flaked and insert my battens. Next I tie it up loosely with sail ties and shift it forward enough where I can lift up the rear end and start it into the boom track. I support the forward end of the bundle with my mail halyard hooked to a sail tie. I gradually keep moving the bundle aft onto the boom, having to untie and tie sail ties repeatedly around the boom vang and sheet blocks/rigging.? Once the whole bundle is on the boom, I connect the tack and clew and insert the mast slugs. I then connect up the topping lift/Dutchman and hoist that enough to start to take out the slack. At this
point, I hoist the sail and continue to simultaneously tighten the topping lift and adjust the Dutchman.? I am able to do this alone but it is cumbersome and time-consuming (but controllable).? Obviously wind must be low and on the nose. I reverse the procedure to remove the sail.>> Dave Hupe>> 1994 C320 #32>>>> Yahoo Mail: Search, Organize, Conquer>>>> On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 9:12 AM, Louis Friedman via C320-list<c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:? that's pretty much our routine minus the loose footed main.? My next>> mainsail will be loose footed I think. We have a dutchman as well and I>> think I don't have it adjusted quite right.>> I can never get it to flake as nicely as the videos online that Dutchman>> has!>>>>> On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 8:36?AM John Stetson via C320-list <>>> c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:>>>>>> We went with a loose-footed main to allow greater adjustment with the>>> outhaul. We attach the tack then the clew to the boom, and connect the>>> Dutc
hman to the topping lift and aft-end of the boom. We take up the slack>>> in the topping lift to minimize monofilament tangles. It is then a>>> two-person job to raise the main while feeding the lugs into the track. We>>> tighten the topping lift and Dutchman, and then insert the battons as we>>> flake the sail onto the boom.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John Stetson>>> Morning Star Again #578>>>>>> On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 7:39?AM mark--- via C320-list <>>> c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:>>>>>>> Same thing I do, a two person task. Loose footed sail though as I have a>>>> stack pack. Open to new ideas>>>>>>>>> On May 22, 2026, at 7:12?AM, Louis Friedman via C320-list <>>>> c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:>>>>>>>>>> curious how others put the mainsail on at the beginning of the season.>>>>> The? previous owner? of our boat put the full battens in as he fed the>>>>> slugs into the mast track.? I've been doing that the last few years but>>>> it>>>>> seems cumbersome - thinking of putti
ng the battens in on land, rolling>>>>> the sail up and then carrying it to the boat and sliding it in the boom>>>>> track.? wondering if I'm missing something though.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lou>>>>> s/v MissAdventure>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -->> Louis Friedman, DO, FACP>> Woodbridge Medical Associates>> www.woodbridgemed.com<http://www.woodbridgemed.com><http://www.woodbridgemed.com<http://www.woodbridgemed.com>>>> 732-634-0036>>?
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 23 May 2026 02:02:28 +0000 (UTC)
From: Dave Hupe <hoop...@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: [C320-list] full batten main
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Sorry ......correction .... I don't? have a loose footed main ... the foot has the bolt rope that I slide gradually into the boom slot per my procedure below.
Dave Hupe?
Yahoo Mail: Search, Organize, Conquer
On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 9:38 AM, Dave Hupe<hoop...@yahoo.com> wrote: I lay out my loose footed main on the forward deck inside the stays still flaked and insert my battens. Next I tie it up loosely with sail ties and shift it forward enough where I can lift up the rear end and start it into the boom track. I support the forward end of the bundle with my mail halyard hooked to a sail tie. I gradually keep moving the bundle aft onto the boom, having to untie and tie sail ties repeatedly around the boom vang and sheet blocks/rigging.? Once the whole bundle is on the boom, I connect the tack and clew and insert the mast slugs. I then connect up the topping lift/Dutchman and hoist that enough to start to take out the slack. At this point, I hoist the sail and continue to simultaneously tighten the topping lift and adjust the Dutchman.? I am able to do this alone but it is cumbersome and time-consuming (but controllable).? Obviously wind must be low and on the nose. I reverse the proc
edure to remove the sail.?
Dave Hupe?
1994 C320 #32
Yahoo Mail: Search, Organize, Conquer
On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 9:12 AM, Louis Friedman via C320-list<c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote: that's pretty much our routine minus the loose footed main.? My next
mainsail will be loose footed I think. We have a dutchman as well and I
think I don't have it adjusted quite right.
I can never get it to flake as nicely as the videos online that Dutchman
has!
On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 8:36?AM John Stetson via C320-list <
c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
> We went with a loose-footed main to allow greater adjustment with the
> outhaul. We attach the tack then the clew to the boom, and connect the
> Dutchman to the topping lift and aft-end of the boom. We take up the slack
> in the topping lift to minimize monofilament tangles. It is then a
> two-person job to raise the main while feeding the lugs into the track. We
> tighten the topping lift and Dutchman, and then insert the battons as we
> flake the sail onto the boom.
>
>
>
>
> John Stetson
> Morning Star Again #578
>
> On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 7:39?AM mark--- via C320-list <
> c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
>
> > Same thing I do, a two person task. Loose footed sail though as I have a
> > stack pack. Open to new ideas
> >
> > > On May 22, 2026, at 7:12?AM, Louis Friedman via C320-list <
> > c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > curious how others put the mainsail on at the beginning of the season.
> > > The? previous owner? of our boat put the full battens in as he fed the
> > > slugs into the mast track.? I've been doing that the last few years but
> > it
> > > seems cumbersome - thinking of putting the battens in on land, rolling
> > > the sail up and then carrying it to the boat and sliding it in the boom
> > > track.? wondering if I'm missing something though.
> > >
> > >
> > > Lou
> > > s/v MissAdventure
> >
> >
>
--
Louis Friedman, DO, FACP
Woodbridge Medical Associates
www.woodbridgemed.com
732-634-0036
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 23 May 2026 15:55:47 +0000
From: Tim Van de Water <tj.van...@gmail.com>
To: "C320...@Catalina320.com" <C320...@Catalina320.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] full batten main
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I just bent on the mail that I had cut during other repairs. I have made a first pass at reconfiguring the Dutchman, but it still needs adjusting. Will let you known if the pockets on the sail don?t work.
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Sent: Friday, May 22, 2026 9:02:28 PM
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Cc: Dave Hupe <hoop...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [C320-list] full batten main
Sorry ......correction .... I don't have a loose footed main ... the foot has the bolt rope that I slide gradually into the boom slot per my procedure below.
Dave Hupe
Yahoo Mail: Search, Organize, Conquer
On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 9:38 AM, Dave Hupe<hoop...@yahoo.com> wrote: I lay out my loose footed main on the forward deck inside the stays still flaked and insert my battens. Next I tie it up loosely with sail ties and shift it forward enough where I can lift up the rear end and start it into the boom track. I support the forward end of the bundle with my mail halyard hooked to a sail tie. I gradually keep moving the bundle aft onto the boom, having to untie and tie sail ties repeatedly around the boom vang and sheet blocks/rigging. Once the whole bundle is on the boom, I connect the tack and clew and insert the mast slugs. I then connect up the topping lift/Dutchman and hoist that enough to start to take out the slack. At this point, I hoist the sail and continue to simultaneously tighten the topping lift and adjust the Dutchman. I am able to do this alone but it is cumbersome and time-consuming (but controllable). Obviously wind must be low and on the nose. I reverse the proc
edure to remove the sail.
Dave Hupe
1994 C320 #32
Yahoo Mail: Search, Organize, Conquer
On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 9:12 AM, Louis Friedman via C320-list<c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote: that's pretty much our routine minus the loose footed main. My next
mainsail will be loose footed I think. We have a dutchman as well and I
think I don't have it adjusted quite right.
I can never get it to flake as nicely as the videos online that Dutchman
has!
On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 8:36?AM John Stetson via C320-list <
c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
> We went with a loose-footed main to allow greater adjustment with the
> outhaul. We attach the tack then the clew to the boom, and connect the
> Dutchman to the topping lift and aft-end of the boom. We take up the slack
> in the topping lift to minimize monofilament tangles. It is then a
> two-person job to raise the main while feeding the lugs into the track. We
> tighten the topping lift and Dutchman, and then insert the battons as we
> flake the sail onto the boom.
>
>
>
>
> John Stetson
> Morning Star Again #578
>
> On Fri, May 22, 2026 at 7:39?AM mark--- via C320-list <
> c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
>
> > Same thing I do, a two person task. Loose footed sail though as I have a
> > stack pack. Open to new ideas
> >
> > > On May 22, 2026, at 7:12?AM, Louis Friedman via C320-list <
> > c320...@lists.catalina320.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > curious how others put the mainsail on at the beginning of the season.
> > > The previous owner of our boat put the full battens in as he fed the
> > > slugs into the mast track. I've been doing that the last few years but
> > it
> > > seems cumbersome - thinking of putting the battens in on land, rolling
> > > the sail up and then carrying it to the boat and sliding it in the boom
> > > track. wondering if I'm missing something though.
> > >
> > >
> > > Lou
> > > s/v MissAdventure
> >
> >
>
--
Louis Friedman, DO, FACP
Woodbridge Medical Associates
www.woodbridgemed.com<http://www.woodbridgemed.com>
732-634-0036
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 23 May 2026 13:52:30 -0400
From: Louis Friedman <lou...@gmail.com>
To: "C320...@catalina320.com" <C320...@catalina320.com>
Subject: [C320-list] water pump/faucet
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going to ask one more question of this crowd that is far more experienced
than me with this boat -
I had the yard winterize the water system last year. When I now fill the
tank and turn on the faucet- I get a dribble of antifreeze(presumably what
is in the pipes) but then just air. I understand there is some air in the
system and what I read online it looks like maybe up to 5 minutes but I've
gone beyond that with no water from the faucet. Thinking there's a valve
somewhere near the rear tank that needs opening but I cannot find anything.
Lou
s/v MissAdventure
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