Opinion on the statement

[dashrathlal vedia]

Dear scholars,

  

               In Bhasa's Abhisheka drama it is stated that Hanumana is a legitimate son of God Maruta. But Anjana was not the Dharma patni of Vayu. She was a wife of Kesari Vanara. Auraso Dharma patni jaha. So Hanuman kan not be a legitimate son but a kunda son. Please give your valuable opinion. 

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Thanks & Regards,

Dr.D.G.Vedia

[S P Narang]

Dear all: In the family to which Hanuman belonged, so called Aryan Dharmasastra system was less known. So was the tradition of the Arthasastra. The difference to some extent has been given by Mitaksara on the Yajnavalkya. so contradictory statements. The example is Sugriva and Tara after the death of Bali. It is different in North and south traditions.  Later dharmasastrins tried to make it and other stories coherent with their system. Comparison of the versions of the Critical edition may help to come to a conclusion. A few anthropologists say that it is pre-historic semi-developed law. One may investigate on this line also. Regards, spnarang

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From: dashrathlal vedia <d.g....@gmail.com>
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Subject: {भारतीयविद्वत्परिषत्} Opinion on the statement

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[unni krishnan]

I feel that every thing contained in epics and purANAs should not be taken in it's verbal sense. So many philosophical and symbolic representation are there. The western commentators  meant Indra as a leader of some aryan gotra  only because they were unaware of this Indian tradition of vedic interpretation  . We can come to any conclusion in such places ,in a higher sense only. Not in the ordinary meaning.

2010/6/7 S P Narang <spna...@yahoo.com>

[hn bhat]

It is not the isolate instance in the epic literature. There are some others also to which human codes of conduct may not apply for establishing their legitimacy. 

The sage Vasishtha is called Maitra-varuna born to two fathers Mitra and Varuna. And Budha son of Candra, the Moon and Tara, who is the legitimate wife of Brihaspati (the teacher of Deva-s) but kidnapped by Chandra (on account of which a fight amounting to communal clashes supporting both Brihaspati and Chandra).  Dhritara-shtra (the father of Kauravas) and Pandu (the father of Pandava-s) were born by the wives of Chithra Virya and Vichitra Virya to the great Sage Vyasa himself. Even though Pandu is an attributive name, all of the the sons of Pandu are called collectively Pandu-putra-s. Individually, they are referred to as Dharma-putra (born to Yamadhama), Vayu-putra (Bheema), Indra-sunu (Arjuna) and are popular by the names. 

And what about Kumbhasambhava or Agasthya? So RishyaShringa? 

There may be allegorical interpretations to Puranic legends. But appying these to popularly lknown episodes like the above may not make much sense. In these cases, I think it would be take them as representing exceptional customs or overriding general codes of conduct applicable to all communities. 

I remember having read on some web page that there is a village called Pandavapura where the women is legally authorised to marry more than husbands like Draupadi which custom may or may not be traced back to some community or developed after the episode of Draupadi. In other other standards, women having contact of with more than one man are considered as jaara. But Draupadi, Ahalya, Kunti and Tara (either the wife of Vali or Brihaspati) are considered as the most chaste maidens than wives:

A traditional Sanskrit exhortation runs thus: Ahalya Draupadi Kunti Tara Mandodari tatha panchakanya svaranityam mahapataka nashanam//

Remembering ever the virgins five Ahalya, Draupadi, Kunti, Tara and Mandodari Destroys the greatest sins. 

Any comments? Now considering this, how to call Maruti (Hanuman, son of Maruta, born to Anjana, the wife of Kesari) as Kunda? Especially, he is popularly known as Anjaneya and Maaruti. If so what about Bheema, the son of Vayu (Maruta)?

These are only instances cited offhand without going deeply into the epic literature, because of their popularity as heros or heroins in epic literature. Many other similar ones may be found under ground to be unearthed.

Most valuable opinions of other scholars are solicited in this respect.

With regards

2010/6/6 dashrathlal vedia <d.g....@gmail.com>

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अथ चेत्त्वमिमं धर्म्यं संग्रामं न करिष्यसि।
ततः स्वधर्मं कीर्तिं च हित्वा पापमवाप्स्यसि।।
तस्मादुत्तिष्ठ कौन्तेय युद्धाय कृतनिश्चयः।
निराशीर्निर्ममो भूत्वा युध्यस्व विगतज्वरः।। (भ.गी.)

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Dr. Hari Narayana Bhat B.R.
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