सनन्दिने & सवृषाय

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Venkateswaran N E

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Nov 24, 2016, 1:36:23 AM11/24/16
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Namaste.
In the Panchayatana Puja published in the book Nityahnikam by R S Vadhyar there is a shloka on Paramesvara as follows :

नमः शिवाय साम्बाय सगणाय ससूनवे | 
सनन्दिने सगङ्गाय सवृषाय नमो नमः ||

Request the learned members explain the occurrence of two references to 'with Nandi', first as सनन्दिने and again as सवृषाय in the above shloka.  
Or does one of these words describe another attribute of the Lord, and if so which word and what does it signify.  

I have seen other renderings of the above with सवृषाय replaced by ससोमाय etc, but I am interested in the above rendering.

Thanks in advance.

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Venkateswaran

Dr. T. Ganesan

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Nov 24, 2016, 1:58:46 AM11/24/16
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First, Nandi and Vrisha are two different entities in the Saiva system; while Nandi is one of the पार्षद-s  वृष[वृषभ]  is the वाहन  of Siva.
In the Sivapuja as prescribed and described in the Saivagama-s, Nandi along with गङ्गा is worshipped as residing  at the right side of doorstep, while वृष is not worshipped.
In the Siva temple also it is the वृष that is always placed facing Siva .

That is the reason in the verse cited by you there is separate mention of Nandi and Vrisha

Due to reasons unknown both Nandi and Vrisha got mixed up in the popular tradition, so much so that Siva is addressed as Nadivaahana--नन्दिवाहन, which is not correct.



Ganesan
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Venkateswaran N E

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Nov 24, 2016, 2:25:13 AM11/24/16
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Dr. Ganesan, thanks for the clarification.

Regards
Venkateswaran

V Subrahmanian

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Nov 24, 2016, 2:52:36 AM11/24/16
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In the famous hymn of Shakaracharya 'nāgendra-hārāya...', too we get two distinct references to nandi and vṛṣa, the former stated as a chieftain of Śivagaṇa and the latter, the vāhana, dhwaja:


Like garuḍa vāhana is also garuḍa dhwaja, vṛṣavāhana is also vṛṣadhwaja.

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subbu

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K S Kannan

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Nov 24, 2016, 3:09:56 AM11/24/16
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In the famous verse deriving "nāndī"
we have Nandin referred to as 
"a vṛṣa of Maheśvara". 

Read :
nandī vṛṣaḥ ko'pi maheśvarasya
    raṅgatvam ādau kila khe jagāma/
tad raṅgam uddiśya kṛtām tu pūjām
   nāndīti tām nāṭya-vido vadanti //

N.R.Joshi

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Dec 3, 2016, 12:52:33 PM12/3/16
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Dec 3, 2016
 
It is good to know difference bet Nandin and Vris'a (bha). Here is my question.
 
What is meant by Nandidvaja?  Also is the word Naandi someway connected with Nandin?
Thanks. NRJOSHI

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Hnbhat B.R.

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Dec 3, 2016, 10:59:21 PM12/3/16
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On 03-Dec-2016 11:22 pm, "N.R.Joshi" <gira...@juno.com> wrote:
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> Dec 3, 2016
>  
> It is good to know difference bet Nandin and Vris'a (bha). Here is my question.
>  

> What is meant by aNandidvaj?  Also is the word Naandi someway connected with Nandin?

> Thanks. NRJOSHI
>


For the first question, regarding "Nandidvaj" meanings will be contextual. Without giving the context, the meanig of a word will be incomplete. 


 For the second question,  it has been answered by earlier posting Nagaraj Paturi, with reference to नान्दी in नाट्यशास्त्र as नन्दी वृषः कोऽपि महेश्वरस्य etc.





N.R.Joshi

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Dec 6 2016
Thanks you H.N. Bhat. I do not have reference to Nandidvaja. NRJOSHI

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Dr. Yadu Moharir

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Nandi Dhwaja is a folk dance form of Karnataka and is dedicated to Lord Shiva.
The dance form is performed by skilled and experienced dancers. It is carried out using decorated bamboo poles called the ‘Nandi pole’, which will be of 20 to 25 feet long and 4 inch wide in circumference. It will balanced by the dancers at an angle of 90 degree, accompanying the tunes of the musical instruments. The dancers wear a pouch called the Navara, in which the bamboo pole is balanced.




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N.R.Joshi

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Dec 7, 2016, 5:31:06 PM12/7/16
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Thanks for photos of Nandidvaja. That is really wonderful. I ave seen them in India. NRJOSHI

Nagaraj Paturi

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V Subrahmanian

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Dec 8, 2016, 1:59:18 AM12/8/16
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The word 'nandi' has several meanings:


In Kannada I have heard this word to mean a particular direction: nandi bāgilu, nandi mukha, nandi dikku, etc. to denote a direction.  Anyone in the know of this may give further clarification as to which direction is exactly meant by this term in this sense.

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Bijoy Misra

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Dec 8, 2016, 7:52:56 AM12/8/16
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I recall something similar described in Bharata's Natyashastra
in order to demarcate the staging area. I don't have the book with me.

Nagaraj Paturi

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Dec 8, 2016, 9:07:54 AM12/8/16
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Prof. Misra,

Do you have Nandi as Tandu in NS or nāndī s'lōka in the Sanskrit plays in mind?

Regards,

K S Kannan

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Dec 8, 2016, 9:20:26 AM12/8/16
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In the verse I cited earlier
(nandī vṛṣaḥ ko'pi....),
it is stated that Nandin became the First Stage [for the dance of Śiva].

Nagaraj Paturi

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Dec 8, 2016, 9:48:01 AM12/8/16
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Thanks, Prof. Kannan. Are you aware of nandi mukha as a direction word in Kannada?

K S Kannan

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Dec 8, 2016, 10:21:57 AM12/8/16
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I am not aware, sir.

Bijoy Misra

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Dec 8, 2016, 10:34:56 AM12/8/16
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 It comes early in the book.
In our college days we were trying to revive the old Oriya musical theater.
The director, a puritan Bharata-fan, wanted the elaborate dhvaja sthApanA.
nAndI comes through there.  I just looked up online.  Natyashastra Ch I.

महानयं प्रयोगस्य समयः प्रत्युपस्थितः ।
अयं ध्वजमहः श्रीमान् महेन्द्रस्य प्रवर्तते ॥ ५४॥

अत्रेदानीमयं वेदो नाट्यसंज्ञः प्रयुज्यताम् ।
ततस्तस्मिन्ध्वजमहे निहतासुरदानवे ॥ ५५॥

प्रहृष्टामरसंकीर्णे महेन्द्रविजयोत्सवे ।
पूर्वं कृता मया नान्दी ह्याशीर्वचसंयुता ॥ ५६॥

अष्टाङ्गपदसंयुक्ता विचित्रा वेदनिर्मिता ।
तदन्तेऽनुकृतिर्बद्धा यथा दैत्याः सुरैर्जिताः ॥ ५७॥

V Subrahmanian

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Dec 8, 2016, 12:18:42 PM12/8/16
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There is yet another usage of the word 'nandi':  In the Lalitāsahasra nāma occurs this name:

नन्दिविद्या नटेश्वरी 

Someone may kindly look into the Soubhāgya bhāskara commentary for the above and share the meaning.

Thanks
subrahmanian.v

K S Kannan

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Dec 8, 2016, 7:08:46 PM12/8/16
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Verse 56 above should read at the end
hyāśīr-vacana-saṁyutā.
(The syllable na is missing.)

The senses of nandi  viz. 'joy' or 'joyous celebration' (or 'even what causes joy')
are all applicable here; nāndī is a derivative of this word.

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