Suktas of Rigveda

[Aravinda Rao]

Dear sirs,

Having not studied the Rigveda and its bhashyam I wish to know the suktas which can be called as philosophical passages, such as the Purusha suktam, Nasadiya suktam, Asyavamiya Suktam etc.

There is a general impression (even among the teachers of Vedanta) that the samhita portions are totally about the rituals and only the Upanishads have the philosophical discussions. This has also led people to jump to the conclusion that it is all under the influence of Buddhism.

It will be interesting to know of the samhita portions more thoroughly. Hence the query. I will be grateful if someone can give a list of suktas.

Regards,

Aravinda Rao

[Ganesh R]

Dear Sir,

Your intent is very apt and Noble. I am also eager to know the response of other learned members here. 

I know well that many opine that all the suukta-s have one layer of aadhyaatmikaartha apart from their other levels of meaning. However it is better to resort to rjvartha and in this light, I think that Vushvakarmasuukta, HiraNyagarbhaduukta, Shraddhaasuukta, MEdhaasuukta, VaagambhraNisuukta are a few other hymns which have direct vedantic bearing. 

Regards

Ganesh

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[Dipak Bhattacharya]

Please consult C. Kunhan Raja’s The Poet philosophers of the Rigveda

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[Gopal]

namaste,

In recent times, in my personal view, Sri RL Kashyap of www.vedah.com - SAKSI, has enunciated the adhyaatmik meanings of RV in the lines of Sri Aurobindo.  SA's original work (a complex text) is: The Secret of Veda (pdf, sri aurobindo ashram and print format). All 4 vedas and some brahmanas have been commented, translated in this framework.

RLK has gone to great lengths to delve into reasoning, interpretative imagery and explanation in various small booklets explaining the framework that may required a deep reading before going into translation...

On the archive.org and other places, you would see some works by SK Ramachandra rao (purusha sukta, for example) and a few other works. 

I believe, SA's student philosopher Sri Kapali Sastri's Rig bhashya bhumika is available publicly. That also would serve your question and may explain a few suktas listed by Sri Ganesh (particlarly, Vak sukta).

You would hear, in response, that going to a teacher or two is the best way forward. That is true. The above points are for less fortunate mortals.

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[हर्षवर्धनः Harsha Wardhan]

Thank you Sri Bhattacharya for this excellent recommendation. 

Are you aware of any other works on similar lines regarding the Atharva Veda?

kind regards

Harsha

On Tuesday, April 10, 2018 at 5:22:54 PM UTC+5:30, Dipak Bhattacharya wrote:

Please consult C. Kunhan Raja’s The Poet philosophers of the Rigveda

On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 4:00 PM, Ganesh R <avadhan...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear Sir,

Your intent is very apt and Noble. I am also eager to know the response of other learned members here. 

I know well that many opine that all the suukta-s have one layer of aadhyaatmikaartha apart from their other levels of meaning. However it is better to resort to rjvartha and in this light, I think that Vushvakarmasuukta, HiraNyagarbhaduukta, Shraddhaasuukta, MEdhaasuukta, VaagambhraNisuukta are a few other hymns which have direct vedantic bearing. 

Regards

Ganesh

On Tue 10 Apr, 2018, 3:29 PM Aravinda Rao, <karav...@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear sirs,

Having not studied the Rigveda and its bhashyam I wish to know the suktas which can be called as philosophical passages, such as the Purusha suktam, Nasadiya suktam, Asyavamiya Suktam etc.

There is a general impression (even among the teachers of Vedanta) that the samhita portions are totally about the rituals and only the Upanishads have the philosophical discussions. This has also led people to jump to the conclusion that it is all under the influence of Buddhism.

It will be interesting to know of the samhita portions more thoroughly. Hence the query. I will be grateful if someone can give a list of suktas.

Regards,

Aravinda Rao

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[an.nar...@yahoo.co.in]

Respected vidvans,
For those who can read Kannada, my father Dr NS Anantharangachar has written a book Rgveda Ratna Samputa in which more than 250 mantras are translated with explanatory notes from darshana point of view. Latest edition was published by Sri DVK Murphy publishers, Mysore.

Rgds-narasimhan

[Aravinda Rao]

Thanks for all the suggestions. 

Aravinda Rao

[an.nar...@yahoo.co.in]

Sorry for the typo, it is DVK Murthy publishers.
Rgds-narasimhan

[हर्षवर्धनः Harsha Wardhan]

Dear list,

I just want to point out that I have found Dr C Kunhan Raja's works on the Rg Vedic suktas to be balanced and original.

His books are available at archive.org.

kind regards

Harsha

On Wednesday, April 11, 2018 at 9:43:08 PM UTC+5:30, Aravinda Rao wrote:

Thanks for all the suggestions. 

Aravinda Rao

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 9:53 AM, 'an.nar...@yahoo.co.in' via भारतीयविद्वत्परिषत् <bvpar...@googlegroups.com> wrote:

Respected vidvans,
For those who can read Kannada, my father Dr NS Anantharangachar has written a book Rgveda Ratna Samputa in which more than 250 mantras are translated with explanatory notes from darshana point of view. Latest edition was published by Sri DVK Murphy publishers, Mysore.

Rgds-narasimhan

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[Sathyawageeswar Subramanian]

namaste,

shrI anirvAN also discusses at length the adhyAtmika aspect of the rgveda in his books on veda mimamsa:

(several of these are still available only in bangla)

http://www.haimavati-anirvan.org/Rachanavali/Books.html

for those who are fluent in hindi:

https://archive.org/details/AnirvanVedaMimamsaHindi

[Dipak Bhattacharya]

C. Kunhanraja's Poet philosophers of the Rigveda. The same holds good of Anirvan’s Vedamimamsa. The Hotri formulae too are, in a sense, philosophical. See Vishveshva ranand Indological Journal,1977 Sept. and 1978 March. A.K.Coomaraswamy’s The Rigveda as Landnamabok speaks of inner meaning of the Rks.

DB

 

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[Nagaraj Paturi]

Prof. Bhattacharya,

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[K S Kannan]

Looking for the miracle, Prof Paturi ?

Yes, because there are no diacritics.

Wait for the next time, and you will see...

[Nagaraj Paturi]

At least that helps diagnose that the issue is with diacritics. Prof. Bhattacharya might want to check the tool he is using for diacritics. 

[Venkata Sriram]

Dear Aravinda Rao Garu,

TTD has published major suktas of Rg Veda in Telugu with Sayana as the basis.  Translated into simple telugu by Shri.Kurumaddali Hayagriva Sarma Garu who was close associate of my sanskrit teacher.  Published in 2 volumes with simple commentary 'without diluting the intent of sayana'.  I have purchased those 2 copies and gone thru them and found to be extremely useful for my swAdhyAya.  The e-books are online here:

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https://archive.org/details/srisayanacharyab015418mbp

 

https://archive.org/stream/srisayanacharyab015419mbp#page/n9/mode/2up

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Apart from this, the major important suktas of Rg Veda are 1) Nasadiya 2) Asyavamiya.  These have been published by RK Mutt with wonderful commentaries by Swami Harshananda Ji with short notes of Swamiji.  Swami Atmananda, a great vedantin, also commented by Asyavamiya which was published by Dr.Kunhan Raja,  

Here is the soft copy which contains both sayana & Atmananda's commentary.  Atmananda's is found to be from shAkta's perspective as this commentary has mysticism of srividya.  I gone thru that but need a thorough contemplation & meditation on this book while reading because certain esoteric concepts are tangential to me.

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https://archive.org/details/AsyaVamasyaHymnRigVeda1164CommentariesOfSayanaAtmanandaKunhanRajaC.

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rgs,

sriram

 

[Subodh Bhat]

However Dr. C Kunhan Raja in his explanation of 'अस्य वामीय सूक्तम्' (R.V. i, 164-36) 'सप्तार्धगर्भा भुवनस्य रेतो विष्णोस्तिष्टन्ति प्रदिशा विधर्मणि' writes 'we don't know the exact significance of the seven-fold seed of creation of the world' referred to in this hymn and that we have 'lost the clue to the correct interpretation of the poem and do not know many of the symbols and conventions of those days' (Intro. pp xxxv and xxxviii, 'Asya Vamasya Hymn, Ganesh & Co., Madras, 1956). This is incorrect as the seven seeds of creation is identified as seven evolutes of Prakrti, in the Madhva tradition. A very good Samskrit Commentary of   'अस्य वामीय सूक्तम्' has been written & published by Dr. Bannanje Govindacarya, 2011. 

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