Meaning

[Ravindranath.B.S Ravi]

Please can anyone define the difference between "ME/I" and "MYSELF/SELF" 

Thanking you

Ravindranath

[Nagaraj Paturi]

I is self-referral. Self is the third person form of the same. 

Similar is the difference between aham and aatman in Sanskrit. 

That is why  English for aatman is self not soul etc. 

Me is the dviteeyaa or karmakaarakabodhaka form or form for accusative case or form used to indicate the object of the verb for I. But it is in English it is an occasionall idiomatic expression used as a synonym for myself . 

Myself is the reflexive form of I. It is used in the sense of 1. emphasis of I : I myself did it (no other person) or 2. with my own efforts, without any help from others:  I did it myself (without help from others)

But 'myself' too, like 'me' , is used as the third person form of I. 

"Me and my mom" = " Myself and my mother" 

'Self' is not used in such contexts. 

"Oh, Me!", "Me?" are some other usages where "Me" is used in the sense of "I". 

Just as self is not usually used in sentences as third person expression of I, aatman is not used in sentences as third person expression of I. 

But it is used in forms such as aatmaanam, aatmanaa, aatmani etc. and in compounds such as aatmakrita etc.   

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Nagaraj Paturi

 

Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA.

BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra

BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala

Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies

 

FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of  Liberal Education,

 

(Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA )

 

 

 

[Dr.C.S.R. Prabhu]

In Vyavahara or Practical life 

 both of these are the same.But in philosophical sense I or self is pure Consciousness unconditional and attributeless.It is individual self  but all such identical individual selves can be identified as one Self.This One Self is Paramarthika Satta.

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[V Subrahmanian]

On Tue, Jun 12, 2018 at 10:24 AM, Ravindranath.B.S Ravi <ravi...@gmail.com> wrote:

Please can anyone define the difference between "ME/I" and "MYSELF/SELF" 

There is an interesting discussion on 'my-self', etc. usages (अहं    स्वयम्)  in the Panchadashi 5th chapter by Swami Vidyaranya. I am copying the relevant verses below:

https://sanskritdocuments.org/doc_z_misc_major_works/panchadashi.html?lang=sa

इदमंशं स्वतः पश्यन् रूप्यमित्यभिमन्यते ।
तथा स्वं च स्वतः पश्यन्नहमित्यभिमन्यते ॥ ३७॥

इदंत्वरूप्यते भिन्ने स्वत्वाहन्ते तथेक्ष्यताम् ।
सामान्यं च विशेषश्चेत्युभयत्रापि गम्यते ॥ ३८॥

देवदत्तः स्वयं गच्छेत्त्वं वीक्षस्व स्वयं तथा ।
अहं स्वयं न शक्नोमीत्येवं लौके प्रयुज्यते ॥ ३९॥

इदं रूप्यमिदं वस्त्रमिति यद्वदिदं तथा ।
असौ त्वमहमित्येषु स्वयमित्यभिमन्यते ॥ ४०॥

अहन्त्वाद्भिद्यतां स्वत्वं कूटस्थे तेन किं तव ।
स्वयं शब्दार्थ एवैष कूटस्थ इति मे भवेत् ॥ ४१॥

अन्यत्ववारकं स्वत्वमिति चेदन्यवारणम् ।
कूटस्थस्यात्मतां वक्तुरिष्टमेव हि तद्भवेत् ॥ ४२॥

स्वयमात्मेति पर्यायस्तेन लोके तयोः सह ।
प्रयोगो नास्त्यतः स्वत्वमात्मत्वं चान्यवारकम् ॥ ४३॥

घटः स्वयं न जानातीत्येवं स्वत्वं घटादिषु ।
अचेतनेषु दृष्टं चेद्दृश्यतामात्मसत्त्वतः ॥ ४४॥

चेतनाचेतनभिदा कूटस्थात्मकृता न हि ।
किन्तु बुद्धिकृताभासकृतैवेत्यवगम्यताम् ॥ ४५॥

यथा चेतन आभासः कूटस्थे भ्रान्तिकल्पितः ।
अचेतनो घटादिश्च तथा तत्रैव कल्पितः ॥ ४६॥

तत्त्वेदन्तेऽपि स्वत्वमिव त्वमहमादिषु ।
सर्वत्रानुगते तेन तयोरप्यात्मतेति चेत् ॥ ४७॥

ते आत्मत्वेऽप्यनुगते तत्त्वेदन्ते ततस्तयोः ।
आत्मत्वं नैव सम्भाव्यं सम्यक्त्वादेर्यथा तथा ॥ ४८॥

तत्त्वेदन्ते स्वतान्यत्वे त्वन्ताअहन्ते परस्परम् ।
प्रतिद्वन्द्वितया लोके प्रसिद्धेनास्ति संशयः ॥ ४९॥

अन्यतायाः प्रतिद्वन्द्वी स्वयं कूटस्थ इष्यताम् ।
त्वंतायाः प्रतियोग्येषोऽहमित्यात्मनि कल्पितः ॥ ५०॥

अहंतास्वत्वयोर्भेदे रूप्यतेदन्तयोरिव ।
स्पष्टेऽपि मोहमापन्ना एकत्वं प्रतिपेदिरे ॥ ५१॥

  

regards

subrahmanian.v

Thanking you

Ravindranath

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