Mahila Vakyartha sadas

[Nagaraj Paturi]

Please visit the video link: 

https://twitter.com/shrinikethan/status/1081549298607710208?s=19

[Nagaraj Paturi]

Direct youtube links of this all women vaakyaarthasadas are available. 

I had goosebumps for having the opportnity of being able to directly be present at the occasion that can make any Indian or Sanskrit lover proud fior the achievements of young women of this generation in the field.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaOuxiYbVpo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMp9ngdvzSc

On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 9:58 AM Nagaraj Paturi <nagara...@gmail.com> wrote:

Please visit the video link: 

https://twitter.com/shrinikethan/status/1081549298607710208?s=19

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Nagaraj Paturi

 

Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA.

Director,  Inter-University Centre for Indic Knowledge Systems. 

BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra

BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala

Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies

 

FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of  Liberal Education,

 

(Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA )

 

 

 

[V Subrahmanian]

On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 10:20 AM Nagaraj Paturi <nagara...@gmail.com> wrote:

Direct youtube links of this all women vaakyaarthasadas are available. 

I had goosebumps for having the opportnity of being able to directly be present at the occasion that can make any Indian or Sanskrit lover proud fior the achievements of young women of this generation in the field.

I share with you the feeling of awe that I experienced when the young women presented their vaakyaatha mandanam on nyaya, sahitya and vyakarana.  They proved that they were in no way inferior to men.  

regards

subrahmanian.v   

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaOuxiYbVpo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMp9ngdvzSc

On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 9:58 AM Nagaraj Paturi <nagara...@gmail.com> wrote:

Please visit the video link: 

https://twitter.com/shrinikethan/status/1081549298607710208?s=19

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Nagaraj Paturi

 

Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA.

Director,  Inter-University Centre for Indic Knowledge Systems. 

BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra

BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala

Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies

 

FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of  Liberal Education,

 

(Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA )

 

 

 

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[Venkata Sriram]

Wonderful Nagaraj Garu !

I have already shared with my like-minded friends.  I see in all of them a ubhayabharati, gaargi etc. 

rgs,

sriram

[Nagaraj Paturi]

BVP profusely thanks Smt Saraswati Murali-ji and Sri Murali-ji for recording and uploading the videos. 

There are more videos of the different sessions of BVP recorded and uploaded by them available on BVP. 

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[Nagaraj Paturi]

Correction: 

There are more videos of the different sessions of BVP conference  recorded and uploaded by them available on YouTube. 

not

There are more videos of the different sessions of BVP recorded and uploaded by them available on BVP. 

[Nagaraj Paturi]

The students sitting immediately right (left when we face the stage) to the chair are from the http://www.maitreyeegurukulam.com/

When I asked the two women how many more of their Gurukula reached this level of achievement in Shaastras, they said that currently there were eight such students including themselves. (six more )

[Nagaraj Paturi]

The one sitting to the left extreme (right extreme when we face the stage) is Mridula Ashwin , who is on the BVP list. She is currently a research student at the Department of Sanskrit of UoH. She is the first one to express desire to participate in a Vaakyaartha sadas expecting other participants to be men. She has experience of participating in such events of men-women vaakyaartha sadas earlier. 

[V Subrahmanian]

On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 1:23 PM Nagaraj Paturi <nagara...@gmail.com> wrote:

The one sitting to the left extreme (right extreme when we face the stage) is Mridula Ashwin , who is on the BVP list. She is currently a research student at the Department of Sanskrit of UoH. She is the first one to express desire to participate in a Vaakyaartha sadas expecting other participants to be men. She has experience of participating in such events of men-women vaakyaartha sadas earlier. 

She is a student of Sri Subrahmanyam Korada ji. In one of the sessions she presented a paper on 'the concept of abhava in Nyaya and Purva mimamsa', in English. 

regards

subrahmanian.v 

[Nagaraj Paturi]

Yes, she is currently studying with him. She seems to have studied earlier at Kalady. 

Aayushmati, please tell something about your Sanskrit studies yourself. . 

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[Trichur Rukmani]

It is indeed heartening to see this and wide publicity needs to be given to this. Maybe this can be worked out as an article and published in the Hindu or any reputed Newspaper to counteract the misconceptions of people like Ananya Vajpeyi. Since Ananya did write some derogatory remarks in the Hindu that would be the appropriate forum according to me; Jayaraman why don't you think about it since you were very much present at this venue. 

om

rukmani

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[Madhav Deshpande]

Amazing videos, Nagaraj Ji.  Thanks for sharing.  Certainly during my student days in Pune, women were among the leading young scholars of Sanskrit, several of them were senior to me by a few years, and many were my contemporaries.  Many ladies from the University of Pune won at the Sanskrit debate competitions in Ujjain and elsewhere.  Glad to see this rising generation of Women Sanskrit scholars today.  With best regards,

Madhav M. Deshpande

Professor Emeritus

Sanskrit and Linguistics

University of Michigan

[Residence: Campbell, California]

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[K S Kannan]

When I visited the University of Pune over 25 years ago,

I was told :  Not only the Veda-s, even the Dept. of Sanskrit is

apaurus"eya!

The Dept. was manned by so many women !

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Dr. K.S.Kannan

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Nominated Member, IIAS, Shimla.

Member, BoS, Chinmaya University.

Member, BoS, University of Hyderabad.

Former Professor, CAHC, Jain University, Bangalore.

Former Director, Karnataka Samskrit University, Bangalore.

Former Principal, Evening College, Samskrit University, Bangalore.

Former Head, Dept. of Sanskrit, The National Colleges, Bangalore.

[Saroja Bhate]

I wonder if you know that the first महिला to recite vedic सूक्त in a सदस् held in 1962 came from Pune.I don't know if any other महिला did it before.Even this महिला was not allowed and was criticised.Some pandit left the सदस् in protest.

[Venkatesh Murthy]

Namaste

Vedic chanting is restricted by Dharma Shastra rules. If we want we can break or bend the rules. No God or court will question us. But the rule is nobody without undergoing Upanayana should chant Vedas. It is not about being a man or woman. And a Patita person like not doing Sandhyavandana for a long time, being in impure state like Asoucha because of death or birth in family or having vices should not chant also.

Regards

 

-Venkatesh

[Jsr Prasad]

Namaste,

Can you elaborate what exactly you mean to say in the current thread?

[Nagaraj Paturi]

Sri Venkatesh Murthy-ji,

You didn't like panktibheda incident in Udupi math and said it happened IN THIS CENTURY.  You want things to be different in this century , don't you?

[Venkatesh Murthy]

Sir,

My intention is to point out with Veda chanting we have to be careful. Other things like speaking Sanskrit and discussions can take place by everybody. It is nice to encourage everybody. With no Upanayana Samskara and no Guru Upadesha how can some person chant Vedas? That is why Veda Vyasa made Puranas and Geeta. It for benefiting people even with no Upanayana Samskara. They can also get the SAME benefit like a person studying Vedas. They will not get anything less. 

All three Acharyas Sankara, Ramanuja and Madhva have said the same thing about Vedic study in Brahma Sutras Bhashyas. 

[Jsr Prasad]

Sir,

It is perfectly fine to share your observations. I think, you responded in particular to Madam Saroja Bhate ji's remark on a woman scholar reciting a Veda sukta, in a sadas, firstly from Pune in '62.

There is much more to motivate, achieve and establish in connection with women scholars participating in sabhas/shastradhyayana. The current thread is pointer in that direction.

Hence, you are requested to port your views to a new thread for churning the same.

Regards

sent from my Asus Zenfone

[Mridula Aswin]

Respected scholars,

I thank the entire galaxy of scholars on this list and also those who were personally available when the MahilA VAkyArtha Sadas happened, for their heartfelt blessings and words of encouragement.

To be frank, my entry into a serious learning of sanskrit and shAstras happened only when I joined for MA VyAkaraNa at Sree Sankaracharya Universsity of Sanskrit, Kalady, in 2017. I was immensely fortunate to study under Prof Ch Satyanarana Sastry, who, seeing my zeal in the subject, took out much of his non-office hours, on weekdays and weekends to teach me various portions from the SiddhAnta Kaumudi, Sekharas, LaghumanjushA and BhUshanasAra. I must confess that he was the one who motivated and trained each and every interested student to take part in Vakyarthas that happen in every nook and corner of Kerala, and still does so. In this context, it should be highlighted that students and scholars from all communities, men and women, who are well versed in their respective shAstras participate in such shAstra sabhas. Thus it happened that, upon coming to know of a VAkyArtha to be organized at the BVP conference, I contacted Prof Pandurangi, and the rest followed.

From 2016, I also started studying from Prof Korada Subrahmaniam, whose versatility in all the 14 Vidyasthanas is unparalleled, due to which I have a clear basic idea of Nyaya, Mimamsa, Vedanta, and Dharmashastras, apart from VyAkaraNa. I offer all the credits of where I stand now, unto him.

At present, I am pursuing research towards a PhD under the supervision of Prof JSR Prasad, and co-supervision of Prof Korada Subrahmanyam.

Thanks and regards,

Mridula Aswin,

[Veeranarayana Pandurangi]

Dear madam, how did you come to know about Prof Korada first? Is it from Bvp list?

If yes, then I feel happy to have worked for Bvp. At least it has helped one person to become a good scholar. It is inspiring, yes. But this is a rare thing that it happened actually.

Shubhamastu

[Mridula Aswin]

Sir,

Namaste. I happen to be staying close-by. I first attended one of his workshops at Sanskrit university, Kalady, and awestruck by his vidwat and agility in traversing multiple shAstras simultaneously, felt that I should become his student immediately.

Regards,

Mridula Aswin,

Dept. of Sanskrit studies,

University of Hyderabad.

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[K S Kannan]

Great guru-s and great s'is"ya-s keep vidyA-s alive!!

[Madhav Deshpande]

Congratulations, Mridula Ji.  Your story is amazing and inspiring.  With best wishes,

Madhav M. Deshpande

Professor Emeritus

Sanskrit and Linguistics

University of Michigan

[Residence: Campbell, California]

[Divya Meedin]

Respectful Pranams to the great teachers and the remarkable disciples. Truly inspiring!

[Saroja Bhate]

Mridula, you are great!! An inspiration for the young girls studying Sanskrit!!

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Respectful Pranams to the great teachers and the remarkable disciples. Truly inspiring!

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[V Subrahmanian]

If possible, the other women who participated in the Vakyartha in Udupi and still others who did not but are doing great work in Sanskrit studies in their institutions, may be invited to subscribe to BVP and contribute to discussions, raise questions, etc.

regards

subrahmanian.v  

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[Sivakumari Katuri]

सत्यं गदितं नन्वाचार्यैः, विद्यमानायां सत्यामपि न वेद्मि तत्र महिलावाक्यार्थसभा प्रचलतीति, यद्यज्ञास्यं नूनमेवागमिष्यम्।

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[Jsr Prasad]

अग्रिमे अधिवेशने नूनं खलु भवत्या भवितव्यं, शिवकुमारिमहोदये ।

[Nagaraj Paturi]

Aayushmati, 

I am travelling. Could not quickly respond. The Mahila Vakyartha sadas was not planned in advance. That is why it was not announced in advance. That is why Mridula wanted to participate in a men's vaakyaartha only. But when we found more women available, we organised the all women one.

I know that you would have loved to take part in the all women vaakyaartha sadas. You are one of the finest vyaakarana scholars of this young generation. 

Let us have more of these. We will look forward to your participation next time. 

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[Nagaraj Paturi]

Aayushmati, 

I am travelling. Could not quickly respond. The Mahila Vakyartha sadas was not planned in advance. That is why it was not announced in advance. That is why Mridula wanted to participate in a men's vaakyaartha only. But when we found more women available, we organised the all women one.

I know that you would have loved to take part in the all women vaakyaartha sadas. You are one of the finest vyaakarana scholars of this young generation. 

Let us have more of these. We will look forward to your participation next time. 

[Balasubramanian Ramakrishnan]

My namaskarams to these great scholars who are setting an example to women and men (like me) alike. I had the pleasure of meeting Dr. Shivani-ji and Prof. Sharda Narayanan at the WSC in Vancouver. I also had the opportunity to listen to Prof. Sharda Narayanan’s talk. She is a wonderful speaker.

Ramakrishnan 

[Sivakumari Katuri]

नमस्काराः,
तथा प्रवृत्तम्! भवत्वाचार्य। धन्यवादाः।

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[Sivakumari Katuri]

नमस्काराः!
यथोक्तमाचार्येण। धन्यवादाः।

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[Mridula Aswin]

Madam, Namaste.

I feel all the more responsible and duty-bound towards the cause of Sanskrit and ShAstras, by receiving adulation from such eminent scholars as you. Thank you so much, although I must admit, that the students of Maitreyee Gurukulam, who quoted many Vedic sUktas and mantras during the course of their vAkyArtha, and another Navya NyAya scholar sitting right next to the adhyakshA on her left in the sabhA, whose fluency in the Navya NyAya terminologies was awe-inspiring, deserve wider recognition than me.

Regards,

Mridula Aswin,

Department of Sanskrit studies,

University of Hyderabad.

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[Mridula Aswin]

Sir,

Namaste. Your words of commendation mean a lot to me. Thank you very much.

Regards,

Mridula Aswin,

Department of Sanskrit studies,

University of Hyderabad.

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[Veeranarayana Pandurangi]

Vakyartha was announced in the brochure of Bvp conference. Then mridula Ashwin approached me that she would like to participate in it. Then we collected others too and organised it. 

Before that KSU had organised one more Mahila vakyartha sadas in Bengaluru November 2014. There too Vijayalaskhmi Bhat was the chairperson, Sangeeta Ramesh too participated. 

I really welcome others too for future events. Perhaps we may look forward in Indic academy network too.

Again Mahila vakyartha sadas participants names

Ragini Sharma Vyakarana bhopal

Shveranandini Maitreyi gurukula

Shruti Maitreyi gurukula

Dr Chandrakala kondi sringeri alankara

Mridula Ashwin vyakarana

Sangeeta Ramesh Bengaluru

President 

Vijayalaskhmi Bhat (wife of Mahabaleshvara Bhat, recipient of rashtrapati award)

Kasya samkritam participants

Shruti

Dr Shivani

Dr Shantala Vishvas

Dr Sharada Narayan

Ragini Sharma

[Nagaraj Paturi]

Is the women who did the navya nyaaya one Smt Sangeeta Ramesh-ji ?

[Nagaraj Paturi]

Is the woman who did the navya nyaaya one Smt Sangeeta Ramesh-ji ?  

[Jsr Prasad]

Yes sir, it is 'kumari' Sangeetha Ramesh ji.

[Nagaraj Paturi]

Thanks, Prof. Prasad for that confirmation. 

Aayushmatee Mridula mentioned the great command of the Navyanyaaya technique exhibited by this vidushee. I wanted the list members to identify her in the video by name. 

"another Navya NyAya scholar sitting right next to the adhyakshA on her left in the sabhA, whose fluency in the Navya NyAya terminologies was awe-inspiring"

[V Subrahmanian]

On Sun, Feb 10, 2019 at 7:43 AM Nagaraj Paturi <nagara...@gmail.com> wrote:

Thanks, Prof. Prasad for that confirmation. 

Aayushmatee Mridula mentioned the great command of the Navyanyaaya technique exhibited by this vidushee. I wanted the list members to identify her in the video by name. 

"another Navya NyAya scholar sitting right next to the adhyakshA on her left in the sabhA, whose fluency in the Navya NyAya terminologies was awe-inspiring"

Kum Sangeetha Ramesh, seated next to the adhyakshaa on her left, teaches in KSU. I spoke to her and she told me that she has been  teaching various subjects there, but not formally appointed as a regular faculty yet. She had come to Udupi with her sister and the latter's child. Sangeetha was clad in Madhva style kacche sari. She told me there is some subtle difference in the way it is worn by married and unmarried women. 

If I remember correctly, she spoke on ten types of shaabda bodha.

regards

subrahmanian.v

[Veeranarayana Pandurangi]

Yes

 She is Sangeeta her father being Ramesh. She studied nyaya in chamarajendra Samskrit college (constituent college of KSU). She too got Gold medal in nyaya. She is PhD student of KSU under the supervision of prof Tirumala kulakrni. Now she informally teaches some students in CSC not KSU. She too got prepared for nyaya vakyartha in a short notice. Other participants too got prepared in a very short notice, thanks to Umamaheshwar, Sringeri. 

Offcourse the problem of Bengaluru is IT. All youngsters being in IT.

[Nagaraj Paturi]

न्यायादर्शनरीत्या शक्तिर्नाम का इति विषयमधिकृत्य तत्र विशेषतः किं शब्दस्य ......

[V Subrahmanian]

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न्यायादर्शनरीत्या शक्तिर्नाम का इति विषयमधिकृत्य तत्र विशेषतः किं शब्दस्य ......

आम् , शक्तिवादः इति विषयमधिकृत्य आसीत् तस्याः वाक्यार्थमण्डनम्

भवदीयः

[Jsr Prasad]

 <nagara...@gmail.com> wrote:

न्यायादर्शनरीत्या शक्तिर्नाम का इति विषयमधिकृत्य तत्र विशेषतः किं शब्दस्य ......

आम् , शक्तिवादः इति विषयमधिकृत्य आसीत् तस्याः वाक्यार्थमण्डनम्

इदमप्यत्र वक्तुं योग्यं यत् आचार्य वि. सुब्रह्मण्यमहोदयैः युवविदुष्यः यथाशक्ति धनपारितोषिकेण सम्मानिता ससन्तोषम् इति ।

[Saroja Bhate]

My salutations yo all महिलाs .Wish to meet them and listen to them in person.

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[Murali D]

So kind of you, sir. Here's the link to all the 74 videos (including a few brief clips of parallel sessions): https://twitter.com/shrinikethan/status/1083392360367546368

Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLpngffUA0CN3hJYUEePDj-G1aIxj7DU3B
It was a great honour for Saraswathi and me to be of service in the conference.

Regards

D. Murali

On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 1:02:58 PM UTC+5:30, Nagaraj Paturi wrote:

BVP profusely thanks Smt Saraswati Murali-ji and Sri Murali-ji for recording and uploading the videos. 

There are more videos of the different sessions of BVP recorded and uploaded by them available on BVP. 

On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 12:27 PM Venkata Sriram <srira...@gmail.com> wrote:

Wonderful Nagaraj Garu !

I have already shared with my like-minded friends.  I see in all of them a ubhayabharati, gaargi etc. 

rgs,

sriram

On Thursday, February 7, 2019 at 10:20:04 AM UTC+5:30, Nagaraj Paturi wrote:

Direct youtube links of this all women vaakyaarthasadas are available. 

I had goosebumps for having the opportnity of being able to directly be present at the occasion that can make any Indian or Sanskrit lover proud fior the achievements of young women of this generation in the field.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YaOuxiYbVpo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMp9ngdvzSc

On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 9:58 AM Nagaraj Paturi <nagara...@gmail.com> wrote:

Please visit the video link: 

https://twitter.com/shrinikethan/status/1081549298607710208?s=19

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Nagaraj Paturi

 

Hyderabad, Telangana, INDIA.

Director,  Inter-University Centre for Indic Knowledge Systems. 

BoS, MIT School of Vedic Sciences, Pune, Maharashtra

BoS, Chinmaya Vishwavidyapeeth, Veliyanad, Kerala

Former Senior Professor of Cultural Studies

 

FLAME School of Communication and FLAME School of  Liberal Education,

 

(Pune, Maharashtra, INDIA )

 

 

 

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[Venkata Sriram]

Namaste Murali Ji,

I don't know how to thank you....but thanking you.

You have provided me enough food for today.  This would take me atleast 5-6 days to go thru all the videos and understand them.

with humble prostrations....

rgs,

sriram