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Veeranarayana Pandurangi

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Aug 31, 2019, 2:14:38 AM8/31/19
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Sarvebhyo Namah
I am facing difficulty of finding a good Vedic book/Reader which is written in Indian perspective, elaborate/exhaustive and makes student understand the intent of Rshi. It should give specialities of Vyakarana. Better if available in English. What else? We need one stop solution.

I tried Mac Donnell, Peter Peterson, Sitanatha shastri (Calcutta university 1944) and  Rgveda bharati by Shivakumara svami, Rksukta Vaijayanti of MN Joshi in vein.

Only exception being Sayanabhasya with Kannada translation by HP Venkat Rao (Mysore palace edition)

I request all the Scholars to help us if something is available in this regard.

Irene Galstian

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Aug 31, 2019, 2:29:03 AM8/31/19
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Sir, collecting translations of the bhashyas has been my dearest wish for a number of years, with not much luck.
If we leave aside the Kannada translation (which gives us all hope!), there seems to be no translation into any language of Sayana and Bhaskaramisra. This is the state with the two key Vedic commentators.
By now I don't think it's important into which language the translation is, as long as it's into some language. We'll probably reach a better place sooner if every interested person tries to translate a small piece of the commentary as best they can, others will correct and augment those translations, the next ones will add their own comments, and so we'll all benefit. 

Irene

rniyengar

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Aug 31, 2019, 2:31:19 AM8/31/19
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Dear Prof. Pandurangi,
Your desire for Rgveda translation/interpretation with extensive notes from insider perspective is well taken. I wish scholars like you take the lead and organize a group similar to the one that resulted in the Mysore Palace publication.
Regards

RN Iyengar

shankara

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Aug 31, 2019, 2:37:23 AM8/31/19
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Pandurangi ji,

You may find the following books suitable for your purpose.

1. The new Vedic selections in 2 parts with Sayana Bhashya, prose order and meaning with notes ed by Telang & Chaubey.

2. Vedic Selections with Sayana Bhashya and notes in 3 parts ed. by Kshitish Chandra Chatterji, published by Uni. of Calcutta.

regards
shankara


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Nagaraj Paturi

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Aug 31, 2019, 2:49:42 AM8/31/19
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There are Telugu translations of Sayana Bhashya by Sri Bankupalli Mallayya Shastri garu.

The volumes are called Andhra Vedamulu. 

Rig Veda part 1


Krishna Yajurveda 


Sama Veda 




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Irene Galstian

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Aug 31, 2019, 2:58:30 AM8/31/19
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Prof Paturi,

Does the Yajurveda part include the bhashya on Rudram? I'm looking for a translation to double-check my understanding of Sayana in several places.

Thank you,
Irene

Nagaraj Paturi

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Aug 31, 2019, 3:02:04 AM8/31/19
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Yes. 

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Irene Galstian

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Aug 31, 2019, 3:08:39 AM8/31/19
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Thank you.

Irene

Irene Galstian

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Aug 31, 2019, 3:12:33 AM8/31/19
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Shankara ji,

1. Have you seen the 2013 edition of Telang & Chaubey in person? Is it worth buying? I only have access to the 1965 edition from the library. 

2. Have you seen part 3 of Chatterji in person? It's listed as a 2 vol set. Or is it 3 parts in 2 volumes?

Thank you,
Irene

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Pandurangi ji,

You may find the following books suitable for your purpose.

1. The new Vedic selections in 2 parts with Sayana Bhashya, prose order and meaning with notes ed by Telang & Chaubey.

2. Vedic Selections with Sayana Bhashya and notes in 3 parts ed. by Kshitish Chandra Chatterji, published by Uni. of Calcutta.

regards
shankara


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Sarvebhyo Namah
I am facing difficulty of finding a good Vedic book/Reader which is written in Indian perspective, elaborate/exhaustive and makes student understand the intent of Rshi. It should give specialities of Vyakarana. Better if available in English. What else? We need one stop solution.

I tried Mac Donnell, Peter Peterson, Sitanatha shastri (Calcutta university 1944) and  Rgveda bharati by Shivakumara svami, Rksukta Vaijayanti of MN Joshi in vein.

Only exception being Sayanabhasya with Kannada translation by HP Venkat Rao (Mysore palace edition)

I request all the Scholars to help us if something is available in this regard.

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Yogananda CS

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Aug 31, 2019, 3:18:45 AM8/31/19
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Namaste,

I am happy to mention that a project to translate into English, 36 volumes (about 32,000 pages) of the Rigveda samhita in Kannada, published under the Sri Jayachamarajendra Vedaratnamala series is taking shape. Those who are interested in helping us with this task are requested to write to me off the list, so that I can take that into account while finalising the proposal.

regards......yoga

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shankara

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Aug 31, 2019, 3:32:15 AM8/31/19
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Irene ji,

I too have seen only the 1965 edition of Telang & Chaubey in DLI collection. Regarding the Vedic Selections ed. by KC Chatterji, its Part 3 is available online at

The publishers might have combined the parts in re-prints. I have not seen the latest editions of these books.

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shankara


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G S S Murthy

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I have heard from elders that although The Jayachamarajedra series of translations were well-intentioned it turned out to be of poor quality as a system of sub-contracting the work to more needy less greedy scholars was in play. I hope and wish that what I am saying is not true. There was a time when the whole set was available for a paltry amount.
Regards,
Murthy


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Irene Galstian

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Aug 31, 2019, 3:39:44 AM8/31/19
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Many thanks, Shankara ji.
I should have the first 2 volumes of Chatterji
somewhere. If/when found, it might be worth scanning these, so the entire work is available.

Irene

Yogananda CS

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Aug 31, 2019, 3:43:29 AM8/31/19
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Namaste,

My experience has been to the contrary, though very limited. But scholars whom I have interacted with have high regards of those volumes. While it is true that many Vidwans were involved in the production, it seems like consolidation and writing has been done mainly by a couple of the Editors - notably, Dr. G N Chakravarthi.

regards......yoga

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Siddharth Wakankar

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There are Marathi translations of  Rv. by Siddheshvar Shastri Chitrao,Patwardhan and others( this was done in the last century) and Hindi Translation by Pandit S.D.Satavlekar etc.

The best person to consult in this regard is Dr. Bhagyalata Pataskar of the Vaidik Samshodhan Mandal,Pune. She is on this bvp.

Prof. Siddharth Y Wakankar.
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shankara

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Irene ji,

Attaching herewith PDF of part 1 of Vedic Selections ed. by KC Chatterji, downloaded earlier from DLI site. I am not able to locate it online now.

regards
shankara




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Vedic Selections Part 1 - Kshitish Chandra Chatterji 1954 (UOC).pdf

Irene Galstian

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Aug 31, 2019, 4:10:51 AM8/31/19
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Thank you, Shankara ji.
Will be in touch about Part 2.

Best wishes,
Irene

Irene Galstian

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Aug 31, 2019, 4:17:54 AM8/31/19
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Professor Wakankar,

What is the situation with Yajurveda? I'm after the two bhashyas, not so much the Samhita text itself.

Best wishes,
Irene

Siddharth Wakankar

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Dr Irene,

Dr Pataskar Madam be contacted for these details,as she heads a Research Institute and must be updated about that.

Kind regards.


Prof. Siddharth Y Wakankar.
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Siddharth Wakankar

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Dear Dr. Bhagyalata,

Kindly enlighten all of us on this very important matter regarding Vedas etc.

Thanks and kind regards.

Prof. Siddharth Y Wakankar.
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Gopal Gopinath

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Namaste, Shri Prof Pandurangi,


Shri (late) Jambhunathan had attempted to translate veda bhashyas following sayana's commentaries. These are available for download from the above link.

Shri AS Ramanathan had attemtped, in English, to bring out the ideas of Shri Madhusudhan OJha of 19th century. He was from Tamil Nadu but his works were in English.

OMC Namboodribad had done a malayalam translation based on Sayana's but adding his contributions like in the lines of the kannada work. It is not available in English so far.

Similar to Velankar's  Ghosh had attempted a translation of 100 verses. I have a pdf of it and can share privately. 

Nepali group (Prasanna Chandra) had released an intro book that outlines their methodology of translation giving interesting peek into how the minds focusing on rig veda work! this too i have a personal pdf for private sharing.

If you or shankaraji or anybody else could point out to the works or share their pdfs  mentioned earlier - Sitanatha shastri (Calcutta university 1944) and  Rgveda bharati by Shivakumara svami, that woudl be helpful.

Thanks
..gopal gopinath




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shankara

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Gopalji,

I have not come across Sivakumara Swami's Vedic Reader.

There is 'Srautapatha' in 2 parts (Samhitas and Brahmanas) edited by Sitaram Sastri, published by Uni. of Calcutta in 1942. It contains only the sasvara text with bhashya, there is no translation or notes. Links are given below.

Srautapatha Part 1 Samhitas
Srautapatha Part 2 Brahmanas

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shankara


Sathyawageeswar Subramanian

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Aug 31, 2019, 1:34:48 PM8/31/19
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हरिः ओ३म्

To the lay reader, the original post seems to look for any work on vaidIka-interpretation rather than just sAyaNAcAryA's bhASyA-s and their translations:

I am facing difficulty of finding a good Vedic book/Reader which is written in Indian perspective, elaborate/exhaustive and makes student understand the intent of Rshi. It should give specialities of Vyakarana. Better if available in English. What else? We need one stop solution.

प्रथमतो नात्र केवलम् सायणाचार्यकृतभाष्याणाम् अनुवादोऽपेक्षितमिति मत्वेदं सूच्यते । श्रीमदनिर्वणवर्यैः प्रणीतरचनावल्याम् वेदमीमांसाविषयकग्रन्था ऋग्वेदस्य गहनचर्चां दधति 


*Hindi translation by shrIchabinatha mishrA*

An English translation of the vedamImAMsA Vol 1 also exists:


Veda Mimamsa is an introduction to interpretation of the mantras (hymns) of the Rksamhita. In the first part of the first-volume of the three volume veda-mimamsa Anirvan has dealt with the modes of interpretation in general. In the second part of the same book he has reflected on the vedic literature in brief.Anirvan`s explanation of the veda has looked into the poetical philosophy of the poet-seers which has named as `Chinmaya Pratakyakshvada` .This thought provoking work of anirvan, sheds a new light to the interpretation of the Veda. 

About the Author: Sumita Bhattacharya worked as a Sub Editor and later as the Assitant Quality Controller in `Northern India Patrika`She also worked as Assistant Editor of `Sundaram`, the journal on art and culture brought out by North Central Zone Cultural Centre, Allahabad. She also worked for the British Civil Services, U.K, for sometime. Her articles have been published in `The Times of India`, ` The Pioneer`, NIP etc.


गायत्रीमण्डलस्यापि गभीरतरा चिन्ता तैरकार्षि 


रचनावलिः पूर्णतयाऽत्र लभ्यते :- http://www.haimavati-anirvan.org/Rachanavali/Books.html

उत चर्चातन्तोरस्य सुस्मूर्षा प्रार्थ्यते :-


पश्यतो मम वराकस्य चर्चा असमत्वेन सायणाचार्यभाष्यैस्तेषामनुवादैश्चापोढेत्यभात् । दीर्घाय प्रसङ्गायाहं क्षम्यै ।

नमो नारायणाय ॥ 






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Sarvebhyo Namah


Irene Galstian

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Aug 31, 2019, 2:37:01 PM8/31/19
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The fuller English translation they've been promising is also out now:


Irene

Shambhavi Acharya

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Rgveda Darśana (currently available in 16 volumes) is an wonderful attempt to present traditional approach towards vedas through Adhi-Yajna, Adhi-Daiva and Adhyatmika viewpoints.
Rgveda Darsana has been published by and is project of Kalpatharu Reaserch Academy (a division of Sringeri Mutt).
Volumes hitherto published can be bought on profskr.com.
Couldn't find them online in PDF or any other format.

Shambhavi Acharya

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Pranam

Rgveda Darśana (currently available in 16 volumes) is an attempt to present traditional approach towards vedas through Adhi-Yajna, Adhi-Daiva and Adhyatmika viewpoints.
Rgveda Darsana has been published by and is project of Kalpatharu Reaserch Academy (a division of Sringeri Mutt).
Volumes hitherto published can be bought on profskr.com.
I couldn't find them online in PDF or any other format.

Irene Galstian

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Rgveda Darśana is available at our library. If it would be useful to see a sample of the work, please reply, and I'll go scan a chunk tomorrow.

Irene

Uttara Nerurkar

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Dear Shri Pandurangi,
You may like to check out the Rgveda Bhaashya of Swaami Dayaananda Saraswatee, along with its preface Rgveda-aadi-bhaashya-bhoomikaa that are available by post from the Paropkaarinee Sabhaa, Ajmer. These are extremely scientific and based on ancient commentaries like the Braahmanas, Nirukta, etc.

Regards,
Uttara Nerurkar.

Siddharth Wakankar

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The Arya Samaj interpretation of the Vedas was not much in demand from traditional Vedic scholars.In fact,there was a Vedic Magazine published from Lahore before independence,but,it was also not much taken note of by many Vedic scholars.I was surprised to know that it is not mentioned by Prof.R.N.Dandekar ji in his volumes ofVedic Bibliography. Hence,many Sanskrit and Vedic scholars are innocent about its existence.Very strange.


Prof. Siddharth Y Wakankar.
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Irene Galstian

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I should have a scan of Rgvedadibhasyabhumika somewhere, if anyone's interested. 

Irene

Irene Galstian

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Here's the scan of introductions and tables of contents (where available) of vols 1-5 and 12.2-16 of SK Ramachandra Rao's work.
I'm working on getting access to the remaining volumes. In the meantime, the available volumes will get scanned gradually.
If you're particularly interested in a certain volume, please say so, and yours will be scanned first.

Irene
Ramachandra Rao, Rgveda.pdf

Irene Galstian

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malavi narayanan

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Namassabhaayai.
Instead of chasing behind the various translations that may be available, it is my humble opinion that the best bet would be to do Veda adhyayana fully, then, read kaavyapaatha, vyakarana and a little of nyaya and then head on to reading the Veda bhasyas IN SAMSKRTA itself. If using a translation is a better way of understanding the Veda bhasyas, our maharshis would not have left it undone till the 21st century. The very fact that they have not stepped down to anything lesser than samskrta is enough testimony to show that the bhasyas are fit to be read ONLY by those who have had the training mentioned above in the same hierarchy. I humbly opine there can never be fruitful shortcuts in this regard.

There are numerous Veda patashalas in India where after ghanaanta adhyayana, Veda bhasyas are studied in the traditional atmosphere. Veda bhavanam - Hyderabad; Shrutiram Gurukulam, Bangalore, are to mention a few places where this is followed. I have listed only those I know of. There are hundreds of such places in India presently. Request scholars to contact these places to get familiar with the Veda bhasyas , rather than pursuing this wild-goose chase of placing various translations.

Regards
Malavi Hari

On Sat 31 Aug, 2019, 11:59 AM Irene Galstian, <gnos...@gmail.com> wrote:
Sir, collecting translations of the bhashyas has been my dearest wish for a number of years, with not much luck.
If we leave aside the Kannada translation (which gives us all hope!), there seems to be no translation into any language of Sayana and Bhaskaramisra. This is the state with the two key Vedic commentators.
By now I don't think it's important into which language the translation is, as long as it's into some language. We'll probably reach a better place sooner if every interested person tries to translate a small piece of the commentary as best they can, others will correct and augment those translations, the next ones will add their own comments, and so we'll all benefit. 

Irene

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Irene Galstian

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The translations we are searching for are made by traditional
scholars. Their work and the generosity with which they shared their knowledge deserve deep appreciation.

Veeranarayana Pandurangi

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thanks Shankarji
KC Chatterjees book is suits our purpose. it is very good. but it does not cover full rgveda. Teland and Choube is not exhaustive. 

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Pandurangi ji,

You may find the following books suitable for your purpose.

1. The new Vedic selections in 2 parts with Sayana Bhashya, prose order and meaning with notes ed by Telang & Chaubey.

2. Vedic Selections with Sayana Bhashya and notes in 3 parts ed. by Kshitish Chandra Chatterji, published by Uni. of Calcutta.

regards
shankara


On Saturday, 31 August, 2019, 11:44:38 am IST, Veeranarayana Pandurangi <veer...@gmail.com> wrote:


Sarvebhyo Namah
I am facing difficulty of finding a good Vedic book/Reader which is written in Indian perspective, elaborate/exhaustive and makes student understand the intent of Rshi. It should give specialities of Vyakarana. Better if available in English. What else? We need one stop solution.

I tried Mac Donnell, Peter Peterson, Sitanatha shastri (Calcutta university 1944) and  Rgveda bharati by Shivakumara svami, Rksukta Vaijayanti of MN Joshi in vein.

Only exception being Sayanabhasya with Kannada translation by HP Venkat Rao (Mysore palace edition)

I request all the Scholars to help us if something is available in this regard.

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Irene Galstian

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Sep 6, 2019, 8:48:03 AM9/6/19
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I have questions on Chatterjee's 3 part set.
Could someone please tell me whether this was a 3 part set from the beginning, or did the early editions come out as a single volume of about 500 pages? If so, at which point was the work divided into parts that were published separately?
I'm trying to obtain the 2nd part, hence the questions.

Thank you,
Irene

On Friday, September 6, 2019 at 12:54:13 PM UTC+1, Veeranarayana Pandurangi wrote:
thanks Shankarji
KC Chatterjees book is suits our purpose. it is very good. but it does not cover full rgveda. Teland and Choube is not exhaustive. 

On Sat, Aug 31, 2019 at 12:07 PM 'shankara' via भारतीयविद्वत्परिषत् <bvpar...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Pandurangi ji,

You may find the following books suitable for your purpose.

1. The new Vedic selections in 2 parts with Sayana Bhashya, prose order and meaning with notes ed by Telang & Chaubey.

2. Vedic Selections with Sayana Bhashya and notes in 3 parts ed. by Kshitish Chandra Chatterji, published by Uni. of Calcutta.

regards
shankara


On Saturday, 31 August, 2019, 11:44:38 am IST, Veeranarayana Pandurangi <veer...@gmail.com> wrote:


Sarvebhyo Namah
I am facing difficulty of finding a good Vedic book/Reader which is written in Indian perspective, elaborate/exhaustive and makes student understand the intent of Rshi. It should give specialities of Vyakarana. Better if available in English. What else? We need one stop solution.

I tried Mac Donnell, Peter Peterson, Sitanatha shastri (Calcutta university 1944) and  Rgveda bharati by Shivakumara svami, Rksukta Vaijayanti of MN Joshi in vein.

Only exception being Sayanabhasya with Kannada translation by HP Venkat Rao (Mysore palace edition)

I request all the Scholars to help us if something is available in this regard.

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Irene Galstian

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Sep 6, 2019, 9:03:51 AM9/6/19
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And some question on Bhismadatt Sarma's 5 volume set of Rgveda Samhita + Sayana.
Has anyone seen it in person? How is the quality of the translations and notes?

Thank you,
Irene

On Friday, September 6, 2019 at 12:54:13 PM UTC+1, Veeranarayana Pandurangi wrote:
thanks Shankarji
KC Chatterjees book is suits our purpose. it is very good. but it does not cover full rgveda. Teland and Choube is not exhaustive. 

On Sat, Aug 31, 2019 at 12:07 PM 'shankara' via भारतीयविद्वत्परिषत् <bvpar...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
Pandurangi ji,

You may find the following books suitable for your purpose.

1. The new Vedic selections in 2 parts with Sayana Bhashya, prose order and meaning with notes ed by Telang & Chaubey.

2. Vedic Selections with Sayana Bhashya and notes in 3 parts ed. by Kshitish Chandra Chatterji, published by Uni. of Calcutta.

regards
shankara


On Saturday, 31 August, 2019, 11:44:38 am IST, Veeranarayana Pandurangi <veer...@gmail.com> wrote:


Sarvebhyo Namah
I am facing difficulty of finding a good Vedic book/Reader which is written in Indian perspective, elaborate/exhaustive and makes student understand the intent of Rshi. It should give specialities of Vyakarana. Better if available in English. What else? We need one stop solution.

I tried Mac Donnell, Peter Peterson, Sitanatha shastri (Calcutta university 1944) and  Rgveda bharati by Shivakumara svami, Rksukta Vaijayanti of MN Joshi in vein.

Only exception being Sayanabhasya with Kannada translation by HP Venkat Rao (Mysore palace edition)

I request all the Scholars to help us if something is available in this regard.

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