Languages of Bharath: Beyond Prakruth to Adviasi's languages

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BVK Sastry

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Apr 23, 2021, 4:18:07 AM4/23/21
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Namaste

 

The living continuity of   languages of Bharath is an amazing phenomenon.  The ‘known’ prakruths’  go beyond as deep social languages and  entrench the cultural practices and ‘dharmic observances of community’.

 

Here below is a link for language enthusiasts to explore about living language of ‘adviasi’s’-  the current citizens ( prajaa) of  Bharath  across a number of states.

 

URL : http://www.bhashaarchival.org/     - 1652 mother tongues – Work of Noted linguist, tribal activist and Sahitya Akademi award winning author Ganesh Devy.

 

 

Why should Samskruth traditionalists explore this ?:  ‘aahitaagni / agni-rakshaka’  ‘Vedic  Yajna-Aruni- fire generation’ practices link living in ‘ Code- Language’ : Does Maring.  

 

About Maring Language:

 

Source: http://www.peopleslinguisticsurvey.org/bhasha-sample.aspx?id=788

Region Spoken In   :           Senapati, Tamenglong, Churachandpur, Ukhrul, Thoubal, Imphal East and Imphal West

          

INTRODUCTION  :   Maring community is one of the oldest communities who are settled in the south-eastern part of Manipur bordering Myanmar. Marings are mostly inhabited in the district of Chandel in the state of Manipur and found in pockets of the districts of Senapati, Tamenglong, Churachandpur, Ukhrul, Thoubal, Imphal East and Imphal West. The Marings are also found in Bangladesh and are known as Morung in that country and they are also found in Myanmar and are known as Murring in that country.

 

The term Maring is derived from the word Meiring or Meiringba, Mei stands for ‘fire’ and ring stands for being ‘alive’ meaning ‘the people who kept the fire alive’. The oral history of the people says that Marings obtained fire through a traditional practice of lighting a fire called Meihongtang, using dry wood of a particular tree called Khongmai-heeng, with bamboo slivers and dry bushes or grasses. The bamboo slivers are pulled against dry grasses and Khongmai-heeng until fire is produced on account of friction. This fire is considered ‘sacred’ and it is set up at sacred places like the village altar, village Gate and youth dormitories. The sacred fire is kept alive by feeding firewood and this practice of keeping the fire alive continued till the advent of Christianity in the Maring Land.

 

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BVK Sastry

 

Nagaraj Paturi

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Apr 23, 2021, 4:42:07 AM4/23/21
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Thanks, Dr Sastry for sharing this amazing information. 

Very much comparable to aahitaagni of the Vaidikas practiced by a 'tribal' community. 

Need to explore more about them. 

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K S Kannan

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Apr 23, 2021, 5:19:10 AM4/23/21
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Any parallel (close/remote) with, or reflection of, this?:

nākuṇḍalī nāmakuṭī.....nānāhitāgnir nāyajvā .... vidyate tadā
- Rāmāyaṇa 1.6.10-15



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BVK Sastry

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Apr 23, 2021, 10:54:16 AM4/23/21
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Namaste

 

1.   May be the following connects to the  quote  on ‘ aahitaagni’. The upanishat texts might have been ported across different recensions indiscriminately or intentionally.

The Ramayana text cited below is ‘ How Brahmanas/ vipras were living in the rule of Dasharatha’ .

 

[ From the previous sarga backdrop, we understand that this is a narration by Kusheelava in the court hall of Sri Rama;

The story narration starts with Ikshvaku vamsa varnanam [ - 1.005.003a ikṣvākūṇām idaṃ teṣāṃ rājñāṃ vaṃśe mahātmanām ; 1.005.003c mahad utpannam ākhyānaṃ rāmāyaṇam iti śrutam ; 1.005.004a tad idaṃ vartayiṣyāmi sarvaṃ nikhilam āditaḥ ; 1.005.004c dharmakāmārthasahitaṃ śrotavyam anasūyayā  ].

 

The description comes to the rule of Dasharatha ; [ 1.006.004a yathā manur mahātejā lokasya parirakṣitā ; 1.006.004c tathā daśaratho rājā vasañ jagad apālayat ].

 

The full context is to be read to understand the social life style and ‘Dharma- Eco system of Rashtram’ in Dasharatha’s rule.

[ 1.006.012a nānāhitāgnir nāyajvā vipro nāpy asahasradaḥ ; 1.006.012c kaś cid āsīd ayodhyāyāṃ na ca nirvṛttasaṃkaraḥ
1.006.013a svakarmaniratā nityaṃ brāhmaṇā vijitendriyāḥ ; 1.006.013c dānādhyayanaśīlāś ca saṃyatāś ca pratigrahe
1.006.014a na nāstiko nānṛtako na kaś cid abahuśrutaḥ ; 1.006.014c nāsūyako na cāśakto nāvidvān vidyate tadā
1.006.015a na dīnaḥ kṣiptacitto vā vyathito vāpi kaś cana ; 1.006.015c kaś cin naro vā nārī vā nāśrīmān nāpy arūpavān
1.006.015e draṣṭuṃ śakyam ayodhyāyāṃ nāpi rājanyabhaktimān ; 1.006.016a varṇeṣv agryacaturtheṣu devatātithipūjakāḥ
1.006.016c dīrghāyuṣo narāḥ sarve dharmaṃ satyaṃ ca saṃśritāḥ ; 1.006.017a kṣatraṃ brahmamukhaṃ cāsīd vaiśyāḥ kṣatram anuvratāḥ
1.006.017c śūdrāḥ svadharmaniratās trīn varṇān upacāriṇaḥ ; 1.006.018a sā tenekṣvākunāthena purī suparirakṣitā  

 

 

2.   This model of Ikshvaku comes from the Rajarshi  traditions in Chandogya upanishat; and praised in Gita. References below.

 

Pre Ramayana reference: ( Chandogya upanishat)

 

https://www.wisdomlib.org/hinduism/book/chandogya-upanishad-english/d/doc239205.html  

 

tebhyo ha prāptebhyaḥ pṛthagarhāṇi kārayāṃcakāra sa ha prātaḥ saṃjihāna uvāca na me steno janapade na kardaryo na madyapo nānāhitāgnirnāvidvānna svairī svairiṇī kuto yakṣyamāṇo vai bhagavanto'hamasmi yāvadekaikasmā ṛtvije dhanaṃ dāsyāmi tāvadbhagavadbhyo dāsyāmi vasantu bhagavanta iti || 5.11.5 || 5.

 

 

Post Ramayana reference:  Mahabharata.

 

 

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BVK Sastry

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Sudarshan HS

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Apr 26, 2021, 2:38:54 AM4/26/21
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Shri. BVK Shastry gaLe,

ಶುಕ್ರವಾರ, ಏಪ್ರಿಲ್ 23, 2021 ರಂದು 01:48:07 ಅಪರಾಹ್ನ UTC+5:30 ಗಂಟೆಗೆ, Dr.BVK Sastry ಅವರು ಹೀಗೆ ಬರೆದಿದ್ದಾರೆ:

Here below is a link for language enthusiasts to explore about living language of ‘adviasi’s’-  the current citizens ( prajaa) of  Bharath  across a number of states.

Just for your information:
The very modern word "Adivasi" (supposedly introduced by Christian missionaries operating in the North East) is loosely defined, and has caused dangerous misunderstandings in society. Like in traditional literature, calling them "forest jaatis", "forest dwellers" or "forest tribes" would be more accurate.

Regards,
Sudarshana

K S Kannan

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Apr 26, 2021, 2:49:13 AM4/26/21
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"ādivāsi" is mischievous nomenclature.
Designed to alienate all others as intruders and colonisers.

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K S Kannan

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Apr 26, 2021, 2:59:24 AM4/26/21
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The nasty Western mentality started with referring to Vedic r̥ṣi-s as nomadic tribes.
They may invent newer terminologies, but the truth just is:
their fashions may change, but their designs remain the same.

Nagaraj Paturi

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Apr 26, 2021, 3:02:04 AM4/26/21
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👍, Sri Sudarshan-ji. 

On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 12:08 PM Sudarshan HS <sudar...@gmail.com> wrote:
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