Munja, Kush and DUrvA grass in Hindu religion

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gira...@juno.com

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┬аRespected Scholars, Namaskar!
┬а
Significance of Munja grass, Kusha (Darbha)┬аgrass and DUrvA grass in Hindu religion
┬а
August 13 was ShrAvaNa PorNimA-ShrAvaNI┬а day. A girdle of Munja grass is made for a Brahmin boy in his Upanayan ceremony. Pavitrakas (rings) of Kush grass are used in religious ceremony. And DUrvA is used┬аin worship of Shri Ganesha. There are many competent Vaidika scholars on this list. Could anybody kindly explain to us reason and significance of use of these in Hindu religion please?┬а How old are these customs? Does Munja grass has any connection to Munjavata mountain from northwest region of the subcontinent? Thanks. N.R.Joshi
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subrahmanyam korada

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Namo vidvadbhya.h

Mu~nja , Kus'a and DUrvA┬а in SanAtanadharma

(please note - dharma is not religion - because back translation fails , i.e. religion = matam / is.t.am , dharma is universal - satyam vada etc. , matam is the one liked by a group ) .

Origin -- Yajurveda , Kalpa and Manusmr.ti

How old are these customs ? - since time immemorial or as old as Veda .

Munjavata Mountain -- not known . But in┬а BhAgavatam 10 Skandha - PUrvArdha - 19 - Mu~nja.tavI . In Andhra Pradesh it is available in plenty in S'reekAkulam District .

Kalpa -- Upanayanam - Mau~njI mekhalA┬а and Ajinam --

as'mani sthApito yena vAso'pi paridhAya ca I
mekhalAmajinam caiva yAvadas'mAnamAcaret II

mau~njyajinAvasthApanaproks.an.Ani tu I
samantrametAnAcArya.h pUrvam kr.tvAtha vAcayet II

iyam duruktAditi dvAbhyam paridIya vAcayet --

Mau~njI(Mantra.h) -- iyam duruktAtparibAdhamAnA s'armavarUdham punatIva AgAt I prAn.ApAnAbhyAm balamAbharanti priyA devAnAg'm subhagA mekhaleyam IIr.tasya goptrI tapasa.h parasvI ghnatI raks.assahamAnA arAtI II

Meaning -- BrahmacArI , while putting on the girdle of three strands and made of munja grass says --
this girdle destroys the defects in our conversation , while purifying our house it has come to us , it provides strength to PrA.na and ApAna , it is liked by gods , beautiful , protects Satyam and Tapas completely , kills RAks.asas'aktis , insults enemies . O! MekhalA ! by you are auspicious and by wearing you ,we will be in a position to run this As'rama┬а with more caliber and as per the S'Astra .

Kus'a -
Manusmr.ti (3-235)--

treen.i s'rAddhe pavitrAn.i dauhitra.h kutapa.h tilA.h I
treen.i cAtra pras'amsamti s'aucamakrodhamatvarAm II

Pavitram ( not pavitrakam - ka pratyaya is not necessary - in svArtha it is a right word though) - is made of Kus'a .

KutapakAla is the the eighth part of the day which is divided into fifteen and it is the right time for S'rAddha .

DUrvA --

Mantra.h - Ayanete parAyan.e dUrvA rohantu pus.pin.I.h I hradAs'ca pun.d.arIkAn.i samudrasya gr.hA ime II

DUrvA is considered as the┬а thing liked mostly by Gan.es'a .

dhanyo'smi

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рдЕрде рдЪреЗрддреНрддреНрд╡рдорд┐рдордВ рдзрд░реНрдореНрдпрдВ рд╕рдВрдЧреНрд░рд╛рдордВ рди рдХрд░рд┐рд╖реНрдпрд╕рд┐ред
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subrahmanyam korada

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Namo vidvadbhya.h

in the earlier mail I inadvertently quoted Manusmr.ti for Pavitram .

'pavitram pavayis.yan pUto medhya.h ' - etc. Mantras support the practice of Pavitram -- pavitram dhr.tvA .. (Kalpa)

dhanyo'smi

2011/8/18 subrahmanyam korada <kora...@gmail.com>

Usha Rani

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рдирдореЛ рд╡рд┐рджреНрд╡рджреНрднреНрдпрдГред

рдордо рдХрд╢реНрдЪрди рд╕рдиреНрджреЗрд╣рдГред рдЕрдирдпреЛрдГ рджреНрд╡рдпреЛрдГ рд╢реНрд▓реЛрдХрдпреЛрдГ рджреНрд╡рд┐рддреАрдпрдкрд╛рджреМ рдЬреНрдЮрд╛рддреБрдорд┐рдЪреНрдЫрд╛рдорд┐ред

1. рдкреНрд░рдпреЛрдЬрдирдордиреБрджреНрджрд┐рд╢реНрдп рди рдордиреНрджреЛрдкрд┐ рдкреНрд░рд╡рд░реНрддрддреЗред

2. рд╢рд┐рд╢реБрд░реНрд╡реЗрддреНрддрд┐ рдкрд╢реБрд░реНрд╡реЗрддреНрддрд┐, рд╡реЗрддреНрддрд┐ рдЧрд╛рдирд░рд╕рдВ рдлрдгрд┐рдГред

рдПрддреМ рд╢реНрд▓реЛрдХреМ рдХрд╕реНрдорд╛рддреН рдЧреНрд░рдиреНрдерд╛рддреН рдЙрджреНрдзреГрддреМ? рдХреГрдкрдпрд╛ рд╡рджрдиреНрддреБред

-рд╡рд┐рдиреАрддрд╛

-рдЙрд╖рд╛

┬а

Sri Raghava Kiran Mukku

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рдирдорд╛рдВрд╕рд┐ рдЙрд╖рд╛рднреНрдпрдГ

рд╢рд┐рд╢реБрд░рд╛рджрд┐рдГ рд╢реНрд▓реЛрдХреЛрд╜рдпрдВ рдордпреИрд╡рдВ рд╢реНрд░реБрддрдГред "рд╢рд┐рд╢реБрд░реНрд╡реЗрддреНрддрд┐ рдкрд╢реБрд░реНрд╡реЗрддреНрддрд┐ рд╡реЗрддреНрддрд┐ рдЧрд╛рдирд░рд╕рдВ рдлрдгрд┐рдГред рдХреЛ рд╡реЗрддреНрддрд┐ рдХрд╡рд┐рддрд╛рддрддреНрддреНрд╡рдВ рд╢рд┐рд╡реЛ рдЬрд╛рдирд╛рддрд┐ рд╡рд╛ рди рд╡рд╛редред" рджреНрд╡рд┐рддреАрдпрдкрд╛рджрдкрдардирд╛рджреЗрд╡рдорд╡рдЧрдореНрдпрддреЗ рдпрддреН рд╢реНрд▓реЛрдХреЗрд╜рддреНрд░ рд╢рд┐рд╢реБрдГ рдХреБрдорд╛рд░реЛ рд╡рд╛ рдЧрдгрдкрддрд┐рд░реНрд╡реЗрддрд┐ рдкрд╢реБрд░реНрдирдиреНрджреАрд╢реНрд╡рд░ рдЗрддрд┐ рдлрдгрд┐рд╢реНрдЪ рд╡рд╛рд╕реБрдХрд┐рд░рд┐рддрд┐ред рд╢реНрд▓реЛрдХрд╕реНрдпрд╛рд╕реНрдп рдореВрд▓рдЧреНрд░рдиреНрдердВ рди рдЬрд╛рдиреЗред

рд╢реНрд▓реЛрдХрд╛рдиреНрддрд░рд╕реНрдп рджреНрд╡рд┐рддреАрдпрдкрд╛рджрдорд┐рддрдГрдкреВрд░реНрд╡рдВ рди рд╢реНрд░реБрддрд╡рд╛рдиреНред рддрдерд╛рд╜рдкрд┐ рдордпрд╛ рд╕реНрдорд░реНрдпрддреЗ рд╢реНрд▓реЛрдХрд╡рд╛рд░реНрддрд┐рдХрд╛рдиреНрддрд░реНрдЧрддреЛрд╜рдпрдВ рд╢реНрд▓реЛрдХрдГред "рд╕рд░реНрд╡рд╕реНрдпреИрд╡ рд╣рд┐ рдХрд╛рд░реНрдпрд╕реНрдп рдХрд░реНрдордгреЛ рд╡рд╛рдкрд┐ рдХрд╕реНрдпрдЪрд┐рддреНред рдпрд╛рд╡рддреН рдкреНрд░рдпреЛрдЬрдирдВ рдиреЛрдХреНрддрдВ рддрд╛рд╡рддреНрддрддреНрдХреЗрди рдЧреГрд╣реНрдпрддреЗредред"

рд╕реБрдзреАрдЬрдирд╡рд┐рдзреЗрдпреЛ рд░рд╛рдШрд╡рдГ

narayanan er

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рдорд╣рддреНрдпреИ рдирдордГред

рд╢рд┐рд╢реБрд░реНрд╡реЗрддреНрддрд┐ рдкрд╢реБрд░реНрд╡реЗрддреНрддрд┐ рд╡реЗрддреНрддрд┐ рдЧрд╛рдирд░рд╕рдВ рдлрдгреАред
рд╕рд╛рд╣рд┐рддреНрдпрд░рд╕рдорд╛рдзреБрд░реНрдпрдВ рд╢рдЩреНрдХрд░реЛ рд╡реЗрддреНрддрд┐ рд╡рд╛ рди рд╡рд╛редред
рдкреНрд░рдпреЛрдЬрдирдВ рд╕рдВрдкреНрд░рд╡реГрддреНрддреЗрдГ рдХрд╛рд░рдгрдВ рдлрд▓рд▓рдХреНрд╖рдгрдореН ред
рдкреНрд░рдпреЛрдЬрдирдордиреБрджреНрджрд┐рд╢реНрдп рди рдордиреНрджреЛрд╜рдкрд┐ рдкреНрд░рд╡рд░реНрддрддреЗ рее

Usha Rani

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рдзрдиреНрдпрд╛рд╕реНрдорд┐

Jagannatha s

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prayojanam anuddhiSya na mando'pi pravartate //
┬а
iti padyasya pUrvArdham┬а evamasti-
┬а
prayojanam sampravr.tteh. kAran.am. phalalaks.an.am /
┬а
idam. padyam┬а AdiSan=karAcAryaviracitatvena prasiddhe
┬а
sarvavedantasiddhAntasArasan=grahe
┬а
prathamAdhyAyasya ekAdaSam padyam
iti jagannaathah.
2011/8/18 Usha Rani <usha_s...@yahoo.co.in>

рдзрдиреНрдпрд╛рд╕реНрдорд┐

Jagannatha s

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anuddhiSya ityatra anuddiSya iti
┬а
pat.hanIyam / pramAdo vis.Adyate /┬а

2011/8/19 Jagannatha s <jgra...@gmail.com>

Ashok Aklujkar

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On 2011-08-18, at 8:28 PM, Jagannatha s wrote:

prayojanam┬аanuddiSya┬аna mando'pi pravartate //
┬а
iti padyasya pUrvArdham┬а evamasti-
┬а
prayojanam sampravr.tteh. kAran.am. phalalaks.an.am /
┬а
idam. padyam┬а AdiSan=karAcAryaviracitatvena prasiddhe
┬а
sarvavedantasiddhAntasArasan=grahe
┬а
prathamAdhyAyasya ekAdaSam padyam

Probably an older source is Kumaarila, ;Sloka-vaarttika, Autpattika-suutraadhikara.na, Sa.mbandhaak.sepa-parihaara, verse 55:┬а

prayojanam anuddi┼Ыya na mando `pi pravartate

┬аevam eva pravс╣Ыtti┼Ы cec caitanyen─Бsya kiс╣Г bhavet ||

┬а

a.a.

┬а


Jagannatha s

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Thank you Dr. Ashok Aklujkar for this information.

2011/8/19 Ashok Aklujkar <ashok.a...@ubc.ca>

SAGARIKA NANDA

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Sir,

Pranam, kindly give its' reference.

Thanking you.

2011/8/18 narayanan er <drerna...@yahoo.com>
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рддрддрдГ рд╕реНрд╡рдзрд░реНрдордВ рдХреАрд░реНрддрд┐рдВ рдЪ рд╣рд┐рддреНрд╡рд╛ рдкрд╛рдкрдорд╡рд╛рдкреНрд╕реНрдпрд╕рд┐редред
рддрд╕реНрдорд╛рджреБрддреНрддрд┐рд╖реНрда рдХреМрдиреНрддреЗрдп рдпреБрджреНрдзрд╛рдп рдХреГрддрдирд┐рд╢реНрдЪрдпрдГред
рдирд┐рд░рд╛рд╢реАрд░реНрдирд┐рд░реНрдордореЛ рднреВрддреНрд╡рд╛ рдпреБрдзреНрдпрд╕реНрд╡ рд╡рд┐рдЧрддрдЬреНрд╡рд░рдГредред (рдн.рдЧреА.)



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narayanan er

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Madam,
The following verse is from the рд╕рд░реНрд╡рд╡реЗрджрд╛рдиреНрддрд╕рд┐рджреНрдзрд╛рдиреНрддрд╕рд╛рд░рд╕рдВрдЧреНрд░рд╣рдГ. It is the 11th verse under the рд╕рд╛рдзрдирдЪрддреБрд╖реНрдЯрдпрдореНред

рдкреНрд░рдпреЛрдЬрдирдВ рд╕рдВрдкреНрд░рд╡реГрддреНрддреЗрдГ рдХрд╛рд░рдгрдВ рдлрд▓рд▓рдХреНрд╖рдгрдореН ред
рдкреНрд░рдпреЛрдЬрдирдордиреБрджреНрджрд┐рд╢реНрдп рди рдордиреНрджреЛрд╜рдкрд┐ рдкреНрд░рд╡рд░реНрддрддреЗ рее резрезредред

But I don't have any source for the following verse, though I quoted from my memory, as memorized while I was attending the sixth standard in school, way back in the year 1980 :


рд╢рд┐рд╢реБрд░реНрд╡реЗрддреНрддрд┐ рдкрд╢реБрд░реНрд╡реЗрддреНрддрд┐ рд╡реЗрддреНрддрд┐ рдЧрд╛рдирд░рд╕рдВ рдлрдгреАред
рд╕рд╛рд╣рд┐рддреНрдпрд░рд╕рдорд╛рдзреБрд░реНрдпрдВ рд╢рдЩреНрдХрд░реЛ рд╡реЗрддреНрддрд┐ рд╡рд╛ рди рд╡рд╛редред

┬аRegards,
Narayanan

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Subject: Re: {рднрд╛рд░рддреАрдпрд╡рд┐рджреНрд╡рддреНрдкрд░рд┐рд╖рддреН} рд╢реНрд▓реЛрдХрдкрд╛рджреМ

kosalendra das

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рдЕрддреНрдпрдиреНрддрдВ рд╢реЛрднрдирдВ рд╢реНрд▓реЛрдХрджреНрд╡рдпрдВ ..............
┬а
Shastri Kosalendradas

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Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 2:23 PM

S P Narang

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Like the assumption that Munja may be related to Muujavat mountain, Kush may be related to Kushaavarta. It is interesting that in Panjab,┬а Kushala gotra is sometimes used for the anonymous gotra. their smartness and exactness is expressed in the word Kushala which was later associated to laati. their impact may be traced in a number of similar words. Regards, spnarang

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gira...@juno.com

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┬а
┬аThanks to Prof. Narang, Prof. S.Korada for contributing to my inquiry about holy grass-Munja, Kush┬аetc. I suggest Dr. Yadu Moharir to contribute to this thread from the medical uses of these plants. Many times we use certain plants in our religious life without knowing their utility other than their auspiciousness. Kushaagra Buddhi perhaps means intellect as sharp as tip of Kush grass. N.R.Joshi

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