Continuing my Krishna verses

[Madhav Deshpande]

Continuing my Krishna verses

माधुर्येण हरे: सिक्तं मनोवृन्दावनं मम ।
नित्ये वसन्तसमये पुष्पितं दिक्षु सर्वत: ।।१०६९।।

The Vrindavana of my mind has showers of Krishna's sweetness.  There is always spring and blossoms all around.

Madhav M. Deshpande

Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics

University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA

Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies

[Residence: Campbell, California, USA]

[Madhav Deshpande]

Continuing my Krishna verses

ग्रीष्मो न बाधते चित्तं न शीतं शिशिरे मम ।
कृष्णस्य साहचर्येण वसन्तो मम सर्वदा ।।१०७०।।

The summer heat does not bother my mind, nor does the cold winter.  Because Krishna is with me, I always have spring.

[Madhav Deshpande]

Continuing my Krishna verses

मधुना तव गोविन्द मत्ता राधा मनोगृहे ।
आत्मानमेव परितो भ्रमत्यविरतं हरे ।।१०७१।।

O Krishna, enchanted by your sweetness, Radha constantly dances around herself in the abode of her mind.

[Madhav Deshpande]

Continuing my Krishna verses

प्रविश्य हृदि मे कृष्ण नर्तनं कुरुषे यदा ।
तदा तदा मे हृदये स्पन्दनं वर्धते हरे ।।१०७२।।

O Krishna, when you enter my heart and dance in it, the vibrations in my heart begin to increase.

[Madhav Deshpande]

Continuing my Krishna verses

हृदि मे ते पदन्यासो वेणोस्ते मधुरो ध्वनि: ।
यावत् प्रवर्तते कृष्ण तावन्मे स्पन्दनं हृदि ।।१०७३।।

O Krishna, as long as you step into my heart and and the sweet sound of your flute flows in, my heart continues to beat.

[Madhav Deshpande]

यस्मिन् रङ्गे समायाति श्रीरङ्गो न कदाचन ।
तस्मिन् रङ्गे प्रवेशो मे मास्तु हे मधुसूदन ।।१०७४।।

O Krishna, may I never go to that courtyard, where you never go.

[Madhav Deshpande]

Continuing my Krishna verses

यस्मिन् मनोगृहे नैव कृष्णचन्द्र: प्रकाशते ।
कथं तस्माद् विनिर्यान्तु मोहान्धतमसश्छटा: ।।१०७५।।

How can the shadows of the darkness of delusion go away from that enclosure of mind where the Moon of Krishna does not shine?

[Madhav Deshpande]

Continuing my Krishna verses

यस्मिन् मनोगृहेऽखण्डं कृष्णचन्द्र: प्रकाशते ।
प्रविशेयु: कथं तस्मिन् मोहान्धतमसश्छटा: ।।१०७६।।

How can the shades of the darkness of delusion enter that enclosure of mind where the Moon of Krishna shines constantly?

[Madhav Deshpande]

Continuing my Krishna verses

कृष्णचन्द्रस्य किरणा: पतन्ति हिमपातवत् ।
शमयन्ति मृदुस्पर्शैर्दावाग्निं चित्तदाहकम् ।।१०७७।।

The rays of the Moon of Krishna fall like flakes of snow and with their soft touch they cool down the burning fires in the mind.

[Madhav Deshpande]

Continuing my Krishna verses

एक एवाद्वितीयोऽयं कृष्णचन्द्र: प्रकाशते ।
नोदेति नास्तमायाति हृदाकाशे सदा स्थिर: ।।१०७८।।

That one and only Moon of Krishna is shining.  It does not rise, nor does it set.  In the sky my heart, it is firmly there.

[Madhav Deshpande]

Continuing my Krishna verses

कृष्णचन्द्रकरस्पर्शादुन्मीलन्ति सतां गिर: ।
कवीनां मुखपद्मेभ्य: स्वयमायाति भारती ।।१०७९।।

With the touch of the beams of the Moon of Krishna, the words of the poets blossom.  The goddess of speech arrives on her own through the lotus-like mouths of the poets.

[Madhav Deshpande]

Continuing my Krishna verses

गोकुले परिनृत्यन्ती यस्य माया सुखप्रदा ।
तं भजे मायिनं कृष्णं द्वैताद्वैतविवर्जितम् ।।१०८०।।

I devote to Krishna, the magician, whose magic dancing around Gokula provides joy.  He is beyond the conceptions of duality and non-duality.

[Madhav Deshpande]

Continuing my Krishna verses

न मे द्वैते न वाद्वैते कृष्ण एव रतिर्मम ।
यत्रासौ रमते तत्र रमेऽहं तस्य लीलया ।।१०८१।।

I have no attraction for the conceptions of duality and non-duality.  I am attached only to Krishna.  I delight in his sports where he is playing.

[Madhav Deshpande]

Continuing my Krishna verses

बहिरङ्गोऽन्तरङ्गश्च श्रीरङ्गान्नापरो भुवि ।
रङ्गं रङ्गं प्रविष्टोऽसौ सर्वरूपाणि नाटयन् ।।१०८२।।

Inside and outside, there is no one other than Krishna in this world.  He has entered all theaters acting all roles.

[Prof. PTGY SAMPATH KUMAR ACHARYULU]

 मायाया नर्तनं साधु गोकुले गोपकैस्सह । 

परत्र तु सदा कृष्ण: चिदचिद्भि: प्रनृत्यति ।।

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[Madhav Deshpande]

Continuing my Krishna verses

आत्मानमेव कवय: पुनन्ति स्तवनैस्तव ।
वर्णे वर्णे त्वमेवासि त्वमेवासि पदे पदे ।।१०८३।।

By praising you, the poets purify themselves.  You are there in every sound and only you are there in every word.

[Madhav Deshpande]

Continuing my Krishna verses

वाचि सर्वत्र गोविन्द त्वमेव समवस्थित: ।
वर्णे वर्णे रवो वेणो: पादन्यास: पदे पदे ।।१०८४।।

O Krishna, you pervade all the speech.  There is the sound of your flute in every letter and your foot-steps in every word.

[Satyan Sharma]

बहुसुन्दरमिदं देशपाण्डेमहोदय।

सादरम्

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Continuing my Krishna verses

उद्गता ध्वनय: सर्वे वेणोस्ते मधुराद् ध्वने: ।
पदानि ते पदन्यासात् त्वत्त एव सरस्वती ।।१०८५।।

All sounds emerge from the sweet sound of your flute. All words emerge from your foot steps, and Sarasvati, the goddess of speech, arises from you.

[Girish Jha]

सम्मान्याः

साक्षान्मधुरया वाचा ह्यानन्दमसृजद् भवान्।

मन्ये शब्दाद्वैतपरं विचारं प्रथयत्यहो।।

Regards

Girish K. Jha

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Continuing my Krishna verses

अक्षरैस्त्वं सरस्वत्या आत्मानं स्तौषि माधव ।
अद्वितीये हरौ लोके कस्त्वां स्तोष्यति केशव ।।१०८६।।

With the letters of Sarasvati, O Krishna, you praise yourself.  With you alone being in the world, who else will praise you?

[Madhav Deshpande]

Continuing my Krishna verses

एहि माधव का चिन्ता स्तुह्यात्मानं निरन्तरम् ।
अद्वितीये हरौ लोके कोऽन्यस्ते कुरुते स्तवम् ।।१०८७।।

Come, O Krishna, why are you worried?  Praise yourself at all times.  With you alone being in the world, who else will praise you?

[Madhav Deshpande]

Continuing my Krishna verses

अद्वितीयो हरिरयं रमते न स केवल: ।
क्रीडार्थमात्मनस्तेन लीलया निर्मितं जगत् ।।१०८८।।

When the Lord was all alone in the world, he did not enjoy being alone. So for his own play, he playfully created this world.

[Madhav Deshpande]

Continuing my Krishna verses

लीलामात्रमिदं विश्वं हरे: क्रीडनकं खलु ।
स्वीयै: क्रीडनकै: प्रीत: सदा क्रीडति माधव: ।।१०८९।।

This world is only a play of Krishna, only his toy.  Pleased with his own toys, he always enjoys playing his game.

[Madhav Deshpande]

Continuing my Krishna verses

अस्यां कृष्णस्य लीलायां सर्वे क्रीडनका वयम् ।
यावत् क्रीडति सोऽस्माभिस्तावत् क्रीडामहे वयम् ।।१०९०।।

In this play of Krishna, we are all his toys.  As long as he plays with us, we shall play with him.

[Madhav Deshpande]

Continuing my Krishna verses

अद्वितीये हरौ लोके केन क्रीडति क: कथम् ।
माधव: क्रीडति सदा माधवेनैव गोकुले ।।१०९१।।

With Krishna being alone in the world, who can play with whom? Krishna plays alone with Krishna himself in the Gokula.

[Madhav Deshpande]

Continuing my Krishna verses

अद्वितीये हरौ लोके नान्यत् किंचित् प्रकाशते ।
स्वप्रकाशो हरिस्तेन सर्वमन्यत् प्रकाशितम् ।।१०९२।।

With Krishna being alone in the world, nothing else shines.  Krishna shines by himself, and he illuminates everything else.

[Madhav Deshpande]

Continuing my Krishna verses

पश्यामो वयमात्मानं हरिणा सुप्रकाशिता: ।
अन्धकारेऽन्यथा तस्मिन्  कथं स्यादात्मदर्शनम् ।।१०९३।।

We see outselves being well illuminated by Krishna.  Otherwise, how is a vision of the self possible in this darkness?

[Madhav Deshpande]

Continuing my Krishna verses

अद्वितीये हरौ भक्तिरात्मन्यात्मनिवेदनम् ।
आत्मन्येवात्मसन्तोषो माधवे माधवार्पणम् ।।१०९४।।

With Krishna being alone in the world, devotion is someone reporting to oneself, enjoying the bliss in oneself, and offering Krishna unto Krishna.

[Madhav Deshpande]

Continuing my Krishna verses

अद्वितीये हरौ लोके कथमन्यो भवेत् कवि: ।
वर्णयन्नात्मनात्मानं कविरेकोऽसि माधव ।।१०९५।।

With Krishna being alone in the world, how could there be a different poet? O Krishna, you are the one poet describing yourself with your own words.

[Madhav Deshpande]

Continuing my Krishna verses

अद्वितीये हरौ लोके क: कस्मै भाषते कथम् ।
दिदेश धर्मं कृष्णाय कृष्ण एव रणाङ्गणे ।।१०९६।।

With Krishna being alone in the world, how can anyone speak to someone? On the battlefield of Krukshetra, Krishna taught Dharma to Krishna.

[SOORAJ KRISHNA SHASTRI]

उत्तमः भावः,,,आचार्याः,,,सादरं प्रणमामि🌷🙏🙏🙏🌷

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[Madhav Deshpande]

नमो नम: । धन्यवादा: भवते ।

Madhav M. Deshpande

Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics

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Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies

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Continuing my Krishna verses

अद्वितीये हरौ लोके क: कं रक्षति माधव ।
कृष्ण: कृष्णां ररक्षासौ कुरूणां सदसि स्वयम् ।।१०९७।।

With Krishna being alone in the world, O Krishna, who is saving whom?  In the court of the Kauravas, Krishna himself saved Krishnaa [= another name of Draupadi].

[Madhav Deshpande]

Continuing my Krishna verses

अद्वितीये हरौ लोके क: कं स्तौति कथं हरे ।
व्यासो भूत्वा हरि: स्तौति हरिमेव स भारते ।।१०९८।।

With Krishna being alone in the world, O Krishna, who can praise whom and how?  Having appeared as Vyasa, Krishna sings of Krishna in the Mahabharata.

[Madhav Deshpande]

Continuing my Krishna verses

हृदि यस्य स्थित: कृष्ण: स कृष्णस्य हृदि स्थित: ।
अद्वितीये हरौ लोके नानेकं हृदयं तयो: ।।१०९९।।

If one has Krishna in his heart, he resides in Krishna's heart.  When Krishna is all that exists in the world, the two of them do not have different hearts.

[Madhav Deshpande]

Continuing my Krishna verses

हरिं यो भजते भक्त्या हरिस्तं भजतेतराम् ।
अद्वितीये हरौ लोके कमन्यं भजतां हरि: ।।११००।।

If one is devoted to Krishna, Krishna is devoted to him even more. When Krishna is all that exists in the world, who else can he be devoted to?

[Madhav Deshpande]

Continuing my Krishna verses

अद्वितीये हरौ लोके क: कं पश्यति दर्पणे ।
दर्पणात् पुरतश्चापि दर्पणोऽपि स माधव: ।।११०१।।

When Krishna is all that exists in the world, who sees whom in the mirror? Krishna is himself in front of the mirror and he is also the mirror.

[Madhav Deshpande]

Thank you, Sunil Ji.

Madhav M. Deshpande

Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics

University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA

Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies

[Residence: Campbell, California, USA]

On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 8:54 AM Swapna and Sunil <swa...@gmail.com> wrote:

Professor,

Sublime. Thank you for these beautiful lines!

Sunil

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Professor,

Sublime. Thank you for these beautiful lines!

Sunil

On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 9:02 AM Madhav Deshpande <mmd...@umich.edu> wrote:

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अद्वितीये हरौ लोके केन क्रीडति क: कदा ।
माधवो माधवं सृष्ट्वा तेन क्रीडति सर्वदा ।।११०२।।

When Krishna is all that exists in the world, who can play with whom and when? Madhava/Krishna created Madhava and he always plays with him.

[Madhav Deshpande]

Continuing my Krishna verses

अद्वितीये हरौ लोके नान्यत् किञ्चित् प्रकाशते ।
प्रकाशते स एवैको माधव: स्वेन तेजसा ।।११०३।।

When Krishna is all that exists in the world, nothing else shines. Krishna alone shines with his own illumination.

[Madhav Deshpande]

Continuing my Krishna verses

अद्वितीये हरौ लोके परिष्वजति कं कदा ।
माधवो माधवं प्रीत्या परिष्वजति सर्वदा ।।११०४।।

When Krishna is all that exists in the world, who can embrace and when?  Madhava/Krishna always embraces Madhava with love.

[Madhav Deshpande]

Continuing my Krishna verses

द्वैताद्वैतविवादेषु विवदन्तां मुधा बुधा: ।
विरामो यत्र वादानां रमते तत्र माधव: ।।११०५।।

Let the learned engage in futile debates over duality and non-duality. Krishna himself rejoices where the debates end.

[Krishna Kashyap]

Dear Sri Deshpande Ji, the verse you have written:

द्वैताद्वैतविवादेषु विवदन्तां मुधा बुधा: ।
विरामो यत्र वादानां रमते तत्र माधव: ।।११०५।।  

reminds me of

 "indriyani parany ahur

indriyebhyah param manah
manasas tu para buddhir
yo buddheh paratas tu sah"

Hence my understanding of the second sentence:

विरामो यत्र वादानां रमते तत्र माधव:

is

"He is beyond logic or intellect (buddhi), only when logic ends, Madhava can be realized! (yoginAm hridaye ramate)

Even in Sri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa's (SRP's) discussion with Master M, 

when Master M says "now I know why God gave intellect to people", SRP asks Master M, " why did God give people intellect?".

Then M said: "to realize that in spite of any amount of intellectual reasoning, God cannot be known through intellect since God is beyond intellect". Then SRP agreed that "yes, now you have understood".

This thought reverberates in the Upanishads in several places for example

न तत्र चक्षुर्गच्छति न वाग्गच्छति नो मनः |

न विद्मो न जानीमो यथैतदनुशिष्यात् ||

 Best Regards,

Krishna Kashyap

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[Madhav Deshpande]

Thank you, Krishna Kashyap Ji.

Madhav M. Deshpande

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[Kushagra Aniket]

Also famous is this verse:

आरामः कल्पवृक्षाणां विरामः सकलापदाम्।

अभिरामस्त्रिलोकानां रामः श्रीमान् स नः प्रभुः॥

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[Madhav Deshpande]

Continuing my Krishna verses

अद्वैतं न च वा द्वैतं गोकुले श्रूयते क्वचित् ।
सर्ववादान् परीत्यासौ गोविन्द: सर्वनन्दन: ।।११०६।।

In Gokula, we do not hear either duality or non-duality.  Krishna, the delight of all, is beyond all debates.

[Madhav Deshpande]

Continuing my Krishna verses

द्वैताद्वैतादयो वादा अन्धानां हस्तिदर्शनम् ।
किमेतैर्लभ्यते वादैर्माधवं भज माधव ।।११०७।।

The debates over duality and non-duality are like the perception of an elephant by the blind.  O Madhava, what is to be gained by these debates?  Devote yourself to Madhava/Krishna.

[Madhav Deshpande]

Continuing my Krishna verses

सर्ववादान् परित्यज्य माधवं शरणं व्रज ।
लभस्व गोकुले कृष्णं वादे वादे किमर्जितम् ।।११०८।।

Abandon all debates and be devoted to Krishna, O Madhava.  Find Krishna in Gokula.  What will you gain by the debates?

[V Subrahmanian]

On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 6:43 PM Madhav Deshpande <mmd...@umich.edu> wrote:

Continuing my Krishna verses

सर्ववादान् परित्यज्य माधवं शरणं व्रज ।
लभस्व गोकुले कृष्णं वादे वादे किमर्जितम् ।।११०८।।

Abandon all debates and be devoted to Krishna, O Madhava.  Find Krishna in Gokula.  What will you gain by the debates?

Very nice. It reminds one of a short dialogue with Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi:  A scholar submitted this question to Ramana: which is  correct, the pratibimba vada or the avaccheda vaada? The reply he got was: Giving up all vaada-s is the right thing.

regards

subrahmanian.v  

Madhav M. Deshpande

Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics

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Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies

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[Irene Galstian]

This merits some clarification. It's not meant that slack reasoning or no reasoning is to be imposed as the 'right thing' on everyone. For a person whose natural inclination is attempting to understand by reason, the course of action is to fully devote himself to this task. If/when it's seen firsthand that reason isn't enough, the drive to reason everything out falls away by itself. This doesn't mean that from that point onward one stops all reasoning, it's just that reason as a human facility is allocated tasks it can manage. And until that realisation comes, one can just say, I'm trying but I don't know yet. We've got to take responsibility and not try to trick ourselves, even if nobody is watching.

On Wednesday, May 20, 2020 at 5:17:14 AM UTC+1, V Subrahmanian wrote:

On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 6:43 PM Madhav Deshpande <mmd...@umich.edu> wrote:

Continuing my Krishna verses

सर्ववादान् परित्यज्य माधवं शरणं व्रज ।
लभस्व गोकुले कृष्णं वादे वादे किमर्जितम् ।।११०८।।

Abandon all debates and be devoted to Krishna, O Madhava.  Find Krishna in Gokula.  What will you gain by the debates?

Very nice. It reminds one of a short dialogue with Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi:  A scholar submitted this question to Ramana: which is  correct, the pratibimba vada or the avaccheda vaada? The reply he got was: Giving up all vaada-s is the right thing.

regards

subrahmanian.v  

Madhav M. Deshpande

Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics

University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA

Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies

[Residence: Campbell, California, USA]

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Continuing my Krishna verses

सर्ववादान् परित्यज्य माधवं शरणं व्रज ।

स एव सर्ववादेभ्य: क्षिप्रं त्वां मोक्षयिष्यति ।।११०९।।

Abandon all debates and seek refuge in Krishna.  He will quickly emancipate you from all debates.

[Madhav Deshpande]

Continuing my Krishna verses

वादेन वर्धते वाद: कृष्ण: कृष्णेन वर्धते ।
विचिन्तय मनो नित्यं यथेच्छसि तथा कुरु ।।१११०।।

Disputes grow with disputes, while Krishna grows with Krishna.  O Mind, always think of this, and then do as you please.

[Sundareswaran N.K]

वादेन वर्धतेfशान्ति: शान्तिर्माैनेन वर्धते।

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[Madhav Deshpande]

Very appropriate, Sir.

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[Madhav Deshpande]

Thought of a twist on Prof. Sundareswaran's line.  Adding my two lines to Bhartr̥hari:

विशेषत: सर्वविदां समाजे

विभूषणं मौनमपण्डितानाम् ।

विशेषतोऽसर्वविदां समाजे

तदेव युक्तं खलु पण्डितानाम् ।।

  

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[V Subrahmanian]

On Wed, May 20, 2020 at 2:15 PM Irene Galstian <gnos...@gmail.com> wrote:

This merits some clarification. It's not meant that slack reasoning or no reasoning is to be imposed as the 'right thing' on everyone. For a person whose natural inclination is attempting to understand by reason, the course of action is to fully devote himself to this task. If/when it's seen firsthand that reason isn't enough, the drive to reason everything out falls away by itself. This doesn't mean that from that point onward one stops all reasoning, it's just that reason as a human facility is allocated tasks it can manage. And until that realisation comes, one can just say, I'm trying but I don't know yet. We've got to take responsibility and not try to trick ourselves, even if nobody is watching.

What you say is not denied.  In fact Ramana has himself given a lot of analogies to convey many things pertaining to Atma sadhana.  The particular incident that is reported is just to remove the idea that 'an analogy, a construct, etc. could be made part of the goal the realization of which requires those analogies, etc.'  There is this statement in the Panchadashi:

https://sa.wikisource.org/s/1s1f

ग्रन्थमभ्यस्य मेधावी ज्ञानविज्ञानतत्परः ।

पलालमिव धान्यार्थी त्यजेद्ग्रन्थमशेषतः ॥ ४५॥ 4.45

After having studied the books, the one who is focused on knowledge and experience (vijnana), let him give up the books completely, just as one would the husk after obtaining the grain. 

Even here it is the spirit that is to be taken.  

regards

subrahmanian.v 

 

On Wednesday, May 20, 2020 at 5:17:14 AM UTC+1, V Subrahmanian wrote:

On Tue, May 19, 2020 at 6:43 PM Madhav Deshpande <mmd...@umich.edu> wrote:

Continuing my Krishna verses

सर्ववादान् परित्यज्य माधवं शरणं व्रज ।
लभस्व गोकुले कृष्णं वादे वादे किमर्जितम् ।।११०८।।

Abandon all debates and be devoted to Krishna, O Madhava.  Find Krishna in Gokula.  What will you gain by the debates?

Very nice. It reminds one of a short dialogue with Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi:  A scholar submitted this question to Ramana: which is  correct, the pratibimba vada or the avaccheda vaada? The reply he got was: Giving up all vaada-s is the right thing.

regards

subrahmanian.v  

Madhav M. Deshpande

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[shankara]

Namaste,

From the standpoint of Bhaktisastras, vaada is prohibited as it is inconclusive and never-ending, as per Naradabhaktisutras 74 to 76.

वादो नावलम्ब्यः । ७४ - ५.०८
बाहुल्यावकाशत्वाद् अनियतत्त्वाच्च । ७५ - ५.०९
भक्तिशास्त्राणि मननीयानि तदुद्बोधकर्माणि करणीयानि । ७६ - ५.१९

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shankara

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[Madhav Deshpande]

Thanks, Shankara Ji, for pointing to the Nārada-Bhakri-Sūtra.  All my life, I engaged in academic debates on numerous subjects, but at this point in my life, the Vaiyākaraṇa in me is conceding to the Bhakta.  With best wishes,

Madhav M. Deshpande

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Sanatsujatiya declares : अयं मानस्य विषयो ह्यसौ मौनस्य तद्विदुः।

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वादे वादे जायते तत्त्वबोधः इत्यपि अस्त्युक्तिः |  वादकथा इत्यस्य तत्त्वबोधजनकत्वमङ्गीक्रियते, विजिगीषुत्वादय एव मुमुक्षुवर्ज्याः | 

वादः प्रवदतामहम् ॥ ३२ ॥   इति भगवदुक्तं गीतायाम् विश्वरूपाध्याये | तत्र भाष्यम् -  वादः अर्थनिर्णयहेतुत्वात् प्रवदतां प्रधानम् , अतः सः अहम् अस्मि । प्रवत्त्कृद्वारेण वदनभेदानामेव वादजल्पवितण्डानाम् इह ग्रहणं प्रवदताम् इति ॥ ३२ ॥   

अत्रापि विशेषः  अध्यात्मविद्या विद्यानां इति कथनानतरं वादविषयः | तत्रापि भाष्यम् - मोक्षार्थत्वात् प्रधानमस्मि ।

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[Madhav Deshpande]

Continuing my Krishna verses

कृष्णमिच्छसि वादं वा किं वादेन प्रयोजनम् ।
तदेकं वद निश्चित्य कृष्णोऽत्र त्वां प्रतीक्षते ।।११११।।

What do you want?  Krishna or a debate?  What is the purpose of your debate?  First ascertain that and then tell me.  Krishna is waiting for you.

[Madhav Deshpande]

Continuing my Krishna verses

वेदेषु सर्वशब्दानामर्थस्त्वं मधुसूदन ।
सर्वै: शब्दैरभिहितोऽप्यवशिष्टस्तत: पर: ।।१११२।।

O Krishna, you are the meaning of all words in the Vedic scriptures.  All words refer to you and yet you remain beyond them.

[Madhav Deshpande]

Continuing my Krishna verses

अद्वितीये हरौ लोके कमन्यं भारती स्तुयात् ।
त्वमर्थ: सर्वशब्दानां स्तोतव्यो नापरोऽस्ति मे ।।१११३।।

When Krishna is all that exists in the world, who else would Sarasvati, the goddess of speech, praise?  You are the meaning of all words.  I don't have anyone else worth praising.

[Madhav Deshpande]

Continuing my Krishna verses

(I am now also including my Marathi verse rendering)

त्वमर्थो यदि सर्वेषां शब्दानां मधुसूदन ।
यद्यद्वदामि गोविन्द तत् सर्वं स्तवनं तव ।।१११४।।

O Krishna, if you are the meaning of all words, then whatever I say is only your praise.

साऱ्या शब्दांचा असशी
तूच अर्थ एक जगी ।
वाणीने बोलावे जे जे
स्तवन तुझेची ते ते ।।

[Madhav Deshpande]

Continuing my Krishna verses

सर्वासु दिक्षु गोविन्द तवैव प्रतिमा हरे ।
अन्तर्बहिश्च गोविन्द: किमन्यज्जगतीतले ।।१११५।।

In all directions, O Krishna, I see only your reflection.  You are inside and outside.  What else is there on the surface of this earth?

[Madhav Deshpande]

Continuing my Krishna verses

अद्वितीये हरौ लोके कमन्यं प्रणमाम्यहम् ।
सर्वोऽपि मे नमस्कार: केशवं प्रति गच्छति ।।१११६।।

When Krishna is all that exists in the world, who else can I offer my obeisance to?  All my salutations reach only Krisha.

[V Subrahmanian]

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Continuing my Krishna verses

अद्वितीये हरौ लोके कमन्यं प्रणमाम्यहम् ।
सर्वोऽपि मे नमस्कार: केशवं प्रति गच्छति ।।१११६।।

When Krishna is all that exists in the world, who else can I offer my obeisance to?  All my salutations reach only Krisha.

वराहोपनिषत् - 

त्वं वाऽहमस्मि भगवो देवतेऽहं वै त्वमसि  ।  तुभ्यं मह्यमनन्ताय मह्यं तुभ्यं चिदात्मने॥  ३४

  नमो मह्यं परेशाय नमस्तुभ्यं शिवाय च  ।  किं करोमि क्व गच्छामिकिं गृह्णामि त्यजामि किम्  ॥  ३५ 

स्कन्दपुराणम्/खण्डः २ (वैष्णवखण्डः)/पुरुषोत्तमजगन्नाथमाहात्म्यम्/अध्यायः २७

।। ब्रह्मोवाच ।। ।। 

नमस्तुभ्यं नमो मह्यं तुभ्यं मह्यं नमोनमः ।। 
अहं त्वं त्वमहं सर्वं जगदेतच्चराचरम् ।। १५ ।। 

regards

subrahmanian.v

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[Madhav Deshpande]

Continuing my Krishna verses

यद्यत् पश्यामि गोविन्द तत्तत् त्वमसि माधव ।
कथमन्यं नमस्यामि त्वमेव कथयस्व मे ।।१११७।।

O Krisha, whatever I see with my eyes is nothing else but you.  Tell me, how could I offer my obeisance to anyone else?

[Madhav Deshpande]

Continuing my Krishna verses

यद्यत् पश्यामि गोविन्द तत्तत् त्वमसि माधव ।

कथमन्यं नमस्यामि त्वमेव कथयस्व मे ।।१११७।।

O Krishna, whatever I see with my eyes is nothing else but you.  Tell me, how could I offer my obeisance to anyone else?

[Madhav Deshpande]

Continuing my Krishna verses

शब्देभ्यश्च मनोभ्यश्च परतत्त्वं परं तव ।
अस्माकं ग्रहणाय त्वं देवकीनन्दनोऽभव: ।।१११८।।

O Krishna, your highest truth is beyond words and minds, but for our comprehension, you were born as Devaki's son.

[Madhav Deshpande]

Continuing my Krishna verses

वयो यातं प्रतीक्षायां कदाऽऽयास्यति माधव: ।
समीपेऽसि सदा मे त्वमिति शाम्यति मे मन: ।।१११९।।

Waiting worrying about when you will arrive, my whole life went by.  Now knowing that you are always near me, my mind is at peace.

[Madhav Deshpande]

Continuing my Krishna verses

माधवानन्त गोविन्द नामान्यगणितानि ते ।
अनन्तास्ते गुणा: कृष्ण नाम्नां ते गणना कथम् ।।११२०।।

O Krishna, the infinite, you have an infinity of names.  With an infinity of your blessed qualities, how can there be a count of your names?

[Madhav Deshpande]

After hitting the "send" button, I changed my verse slightly: 

माधवानन्त गोविन्द नामान्यगणितानि ते ।

अनन्तास्ते गुणा: कृष्ण गुणानां गणना कथम् ।।११२०।।

[Madhav Deshpande]

Continuing my Krishna verses

नान्तं जगाम शब्दानां गणनां कर्तुमुद्यत: ।
चतुर्मुख: कथं कुर्याद् गुणानां गणनां तव ।।११२१।।

The four-faced Brahma started to count the words of Sanskrit, but could never reach completion.  How can he count your qualities?

[Madhav Deshpande]

Continuing my Krishna verses

सरस्वती गिरां देवी गिरन्ती सततं गुणान् ।
त्वदीयान् न परं पारं याति श्रान्ता युगे युगे ।।११२२।।

Sarasvati, the goddess of speech is constantly expressing your qualities, but cannot reach completion.  Age after age, she is exhausted.

[Madhav Deshpande]

Continuing my Krishna verses

गोकुलेश जगच्चक्रमेतत्क्रीडनकं तव ।
भ्रामयन्नङ्गुलीभिस्त्वं नित्यं क्रीडसि माधव ।।११२३।।

O Lord of Gokula, the wheel of this world is just a toy for you.  You always rotate it with your fingers as you play, O Krishna.

[Madhav Deshpande]

Continuing my Krishna verses

क्रीडतो मृदि कृष्णस्य चन्द्रोऽभूत् शुक्लकन्दुक: ।
खे क्षिप्तस्तेन हस्ताभ्यां तेन कृष्णकलङ्कित: ।।११२४।।

While playing on the ground, the moon was a white playing ball for Krishna.  He hurled it into the sky with his hands, and that is why it has dark spots.

[Madhav Deshpande]

Continuing my Krishna verses

पौर्णमास्यां शशी शुक्लो रौति कुत्र गतो हरि: ।
कृष्णे पक्षे समायातेऽमायामायाति कृष्णताम् ।।११२५।।

The white moon of the full moon night is crying: "Where did Krishna go?"  When Krishna comes close , the moon of the new moon night becomes dark like Krishna.

[Madhav Deshpande]

Continuing my Krishna verses

सर्वतन्त्रस्वतन्त्रस्त्वं जगद् भ्रामयसीश्वर: ।
भ्राम्यतस्ते जगच्चक्रात् पतनान्नो निवारय ।।११२६।।

O Krishna, you as the Lord, completely independent in your decisions, drive the wheel of this world.  Please help us so that we may not fall from the rotation of this wheel.

[Siddharth Wakankar]

Could it be ईश्वर?

Prof. Siddharth Y Wakankar.

Vadodara.9427339942.

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[Madhav Deshpande]

ईश्वर:/ईश्वर will both work.  Thanks.

Madhav M. Deshpande

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University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA

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[Madhav Deshpande]

Continuing my Krishna verses

प्रसादस्तव गोविन्द नन्दयत्यखिलं जगत् ।
चन्द्रमा इव शीतस्त्वं भास्करादपि भास्वर: ।।११२७।।

O Krishna, your blessing makes the entire world happy.  You are more brilliant than the sun and cool like the moon.

[Madhav Deshpande]

Continuing my Krishna verses

कटाक्षस्तव गोविन्द विमलीकुरुते जगत् ।
अपाकृत्याशुभं सर्वं शुभं सर्वं प्रकाशयन् ।।११२८।।

O Krishna, your glance purifies this world, removing all evil and illuminating everything good.

[Madhav Deshpande]

Continuing my Krishna verses

जनेभ्य: कथमाख्यामि परमेश: सखा मम ।
तिष्ठन्तं मत्समीपे त्वां न कश्चिदिह पश्यति ।।११२९।।

How can I tell the people that the Highest Lord is my best friend?  No one sees you standing by me.

[Madhav Deshpande]

Continuing my Krishna verses

निगूढो मे सखा कृष्ण: सर्वत्र जगतीतले ।
प्रेम्णा यमनुगृह्णाति स तं पश्यति सर्वदा ।।११३०।।

My best friend, Krishna, is hidden throughout the world.  One always sees him if he is received with love by Krishna.

[Kushagra]

Professor Deshpande’s verse inspired me to write one too:

यत्कृपादृष्टिमात्रेण रसवृष्टिसु शीतल:।

पुष्टिमाप्नोति तं वन्दे व्रजेश्वर-रसेश्वरम्।।

जिनकी कृपा दृष्टि मात्र से रस की वृष्टि में शीतल हुआ जन पुष्टि को प्राप्त कर लेता है, उन व्रजराज स्वरूप रसराज की मैं वंदना करता हूँ।

Here, the word “pushti” is a reference to the concept in Pushtimarga.

Best,

Kushagra

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[Madhav Deshpande]

Dear Kushagra Ji,

     A beautiful verse.  Just a slight correction: रसवृष्टिसु > रसवृष्टिषु.  Best wishes,

Madhav M. Deshpande

Professor Emeritus, Sanskrit and Linguistics

University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA

Senior Fellow, Oxford Center for Hindu Studies

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[Kushagra Aniket]

Thank you, Professor Deshpande. 

Kushagra Aniket

Cornell University'15

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[Vipin Chaturvedi]

Both are absolutely beautiful—thanks as always to Deshpande ji and also Kushagra ji for sharing—-every thing is beautiful as long as it relates to Sri Krishna. 

Vipin Chaturvedi 

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On Jun 10, 2020, at 5:16 PM, Kushagra <ka...@cornell.edu> wrote:



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मधुराथिपतेरखिलं मधुरम्!

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Continuing my Krishna verses

अद्वितीये हरौ लोके कमन्यं वृणुयामहम् ।
वरणीयं न मे किञ्चित् त्वदन्यं मधुसूदन ।।११३१।।

When Krishna is all there is in the world, who else can I choose?  O Krishna, I have no one else to choose.

[Kushagra Aniket]

Offering one more verse in the same format:

यत्कृपारसपानेन मृण्मयः चिन्मयीकृतः।
तन्मयो राजते वन्दे तं व्रजेशं रसेश्वरम्।।

जिनके कृपा रुपी रस के पान से मृण्मय भी चिन्मय होकर तन्मय रूप में विराजता है, उन व्रजराज स्वरूप रसराज की मैं वंदना करता हूँ।

Kushagra Aniket

Cornell University'15

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