Katyayani tantra

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Shivani V

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Jun 26, 2015, 6:59:03 AM6/26/15
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Dear and Respected Scholars,
Hari Om!

I would be grateful if anyone can share a copy of the book, Katyayanitantra. 

Thanks and regards
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Dr. V Shivani
Deputy Director
CIFSS, Adisankaranilayam
Veliyanadu, Kerala

Venkata Sriram

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Jun 27, 2015, 12:01:19 PM6/27/15
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Namaste,

Approach Shri.Bharati Tirtha Swamiji of Sringeri with humility and place before His Holiness your request.  If Swamiji is convinced with your sincerity, then He would help you.  It is available in manuscript form in Sringeri Library. 

His Holiness would give access to the library and would send one of His disciples (mostly shri.narahari bhatt, the prAdhAna srividyOpAsaka who performs the morning chandramoulishwara puja) to escort you.  One has to read the copy in his presence only.  Copying / taking notes are not permitted. 

However, swamiji would ask questions personally regarding the purpose of enquiry etc.

regs,
sriram

Ajit Gargeshwari

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Jun 27, 2015, 12:15:36 PM6/27/15
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Thnak you for giving information about the availability of the manuscript So should one memorize the text? How can one read a manuscript without being allowed to even take notes

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Ajit Gargeshwari
न जायते म्रियते वा कदाचिन्नायं भूत्वा भविता वा न भूयः।
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shankara

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Jun 27, 2015, 2:12:32 PM6/27/15
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Namaste,

One can buy copies of Manuscript of Katyayani Tantra from Odisha State Museum.
 
regards
shankara


From: Ajit Gargeshwari <ajit.gar...@gmail.com>
To: भारतीयविद्वत्परिषत् <bvpar...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, 27 June 2015 9:45 PM
Subject: Re: {भारतीयविद्वत्परिषत्} Re: Katyayani tantra

Venkatakrishna Sastry

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Jun 27, 2015, 4:32:01 PM6/27/15
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Namaste

It is welcome change that  to see some one on the forum taking a bold  step to post the right way to approach a traditional text and studies for this discipline.

The method of study for a given text marked as  'Tantra', under the  'Shaakta' -Srividya categorization under the umbrella of Vedanta schools needs a multiple set of traditional tools and practical detailing. And these remain ' guarded secrets' imparted only under the Guru-Shihsya -Deeksha system.

This is different from the way the ' academics' study' tantra  and present it as a debauch practice of ' Pancha -Ma' karas.

As a preliminary step before approaching the HH and getting in to an embarrassing position, it would be better to read the works of Sir Arthur Avalon who has provided valuable writing on this subject. His works may carry reference to this tantra also, as a part of Dasha Maha vidya deliberation.

On a concluding note, my humble suggestion:  There is a world of difference by which a  traditional  'guru'  provides  guidance on tantra practice; and it is different from an academic professor exploring the text . 

While the specific text  Katyayani Tantra may provide some  'special mantras' and methods', the foundational approach to tantra does not change from  'Maha nirvana Tantra', used by Sir Arthur Avalon. Sir Avalons books were audited for content and blessed for the accuracy of content  by Sringeri Peetham as well as Bengal tradition.

Regards
BVK Sastry





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Ajit Gargeshwari

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Jun 27, 2015, 9:01:36 PM6/27/15
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The question asked was is text of Katyani Tantra available or not and the question is answered. I don't think the original question pertained to what books on must read on Tantra or the role of the traditional guru.
The statement
While the specific text  Katyayani Tantra may provide some  'special mantras' and methods', the foundational approach to tantra does not change from  'Maha nirvana Tantra is incorrect please read the  studies done on Tantra. I donot want to enter into any debate I Just emntioned

Regards
Ajit Gargeshwari
न जायते म्रियते वा कदाचिन्नायं भूत्वा भविता वा न भूयः।
अजो नित्यः शाश्वतोऽयं पुराणो न हन्यते हन्यमाने शरीरे।।2.20।।

Ganesan T

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Jun 27, 2015, 11:07:44 PM6/27/15
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Mahanirvana tantra is not an ancient and traditional one. It is well known that it was composed only in the 18th ?  century.
Ganesan

Nagaraj Paturi

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Jun 28, 2015, 12:08:31 AM6/28/15
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Aayushmaan Venkata Sriram himself posted this info elsewhere:
 
An old copy of Katyayani Tantra, edited by Nrisimha Bharati & Satchidananda Nrisimiha Bharati
Mahaswamigal of Sringeri, is preserved by Sri Narahari Bhatt.  This book lays down the rules &
regulations of Chandi Parayana & Chandi Homa and Sringeri Pitha ONLY follows this book that was edited by
HH Nrisimha Bharati. 
Prof.Nagaraj Paturi
Hyderabad-500044

Nagaraj Paturi

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Jun 28, 2015, 1:41:42 AM6/28/15
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Another post by aayushmaan Venkata Sriram is :
 
But the book he has is not exactly copy of Katyayani Tantra but some
incorporations and refinements done by Shri Nrisimha Bharati and Sivabhinava
Nrisimha Bharati Swamigal.

This is what i have been told by Shri Narahari Bhatt, Shri Krishna Bhatt (Veda
Pathashala Principal at Sringeri) and Shri Navin Holla (my close friend who is a
tarka acharya at Sringeri).
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Prof.Nagaraj Paturi
Hyderabad-500044

Ajit Gargeshwari

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Jun 28, 2015, 3:03:48 AM6/28/15
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I don't know the script hence cannot read if Prof Paturi or any other scholar can please  help on the Link Sri Sankara Prasad sent One can read  10 folios of Katyayani Tantra curated by Odisha Sate Museum

Regards
Ajit Gargeshwari
न जायते म्रियते वा कदाचिन्नायं भूत्वा भविता वा न भूयः।
अजो नित्यः शाश्वतोऽयं पुराणो न हन्यते हन्यमाने शरीरे।।2.20।।

Dr.BVK Sastry (G-Mail-pop)

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Jun 30, 2015, 1:43:36 AM6/30/15
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Namaste Ajit Gargeswari ji

 

1. On Katyayani Tantra: Text availability, yes, the question raised in the original post is answered.  Additional details were provided  in response to the  response posts in the thread, when the  singled out pointed reference was made to Sringeri Matham. I wondered why some Shakta school of Kerala, Bengal, Kashmir  or Tibetan or Nepal source did not surface ! Katyayani is one form  of Durga worship, which is prevalent all over India.

 

2. Regarding <  Foundational  approach that runs common to all Tantras / How Arthur Avalon has represented the Tradition of Tantra, authentically and  deeply linked to the practices at Sringeri Sampradaya’  can be verified from the  series of works by Him.

 

In writing the line mentioned above,  I had in mind, some of the major tantra works – Prapancha Sara samgraha ( attributed to Shankaraacharya (?), Bhaskararaya’s writing on Kularnava Tantra , Mantra mahodadhi et al, ( and of course, Abhinava Guptas writings on Kashmir Saivism and Tantra)  which does present the common foundation;  An  integral part of tantra traditional practice deeply linked with Agama, Nigama and Yoga-Samskrutham as the Mantra language(Vak-Yoga).  The statement < the foundational approach to tantra does not change from  'Maha nirvana Tantra  > is made after due studies and affirmation from  traditional knowledgeable practicing sources and authorities.

 

Traditional practitioners do not  adduce much weight  for ‘ modern studies guidance’ on Tantra  as a ‘path for ecstasy’ and ‘massage’.  Nor Traditional Tantra teaching can be subject to academic analysis for creating a citation reference resource  like- White, David Gordon. Tantra in practice. Vol. 8. Motilal Banarsidass Publ., 2001. [ Book available for reading at url: https://books.google.com/books?hl=en&lr=&id=hayV4o50eUEC&oi=fnd&pg=PR5&dq=tantra+studies&ots=ZiRjBxEXqj&sig=I5--PpmaNxPzeP6Oo8VXbP77uvY#v=onepage&q=tantra%20studies&f=false ].

 

It is left to the discretion and intention of original post writer, on  how they plan to study the text. It is not for me to make any uncalled for suggestion  on how to study the text. Or even whom to approach and with what mind-set.

 

 

3.    May be this issue is not right to be discussed on the forum and public space. I am always open for a private mail exchange if any more clarifications are needed.

 

Regards

BVK Sastry


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