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Harsha B. Wari'

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Dear scholars, 

Pranam, 

Recently my Russian friend started researching their state symbol which is a mystical bird with two heads and which represents superior power. 

His research led him to the mention of Ganda Bherunda in vedic scriptures. Paramatika upanishad gives some details of the story and further gives the reference of 37th chapter of narasimha purana. 

However we were unable to find any mention in the 37th chapter of narasimha purana. 

Further, were told by a priest who worships the form of Ganda-Bherunda in a temple at Chennai, to look for the mantra section of atharva veda. We need help. 

Can anyone guide us please. 

Om Tat Sat, 

Venkata Sriram

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Namaste,

The आकाश भैरव कल्पं details this upAsana.  However, पीताम्बर पीठ, दातिया has come up with शरभ तन्त्रं which is as per the said kalpa.  The e-book is found here:

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Interestingly, the emblem of "Karnataka Soaps & Detergents" (whose product is the popular soap Mysore Sandal Soap) has शरभ  as their official logo.

regs,
sriram

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The आकाश भैरव कल्पं details this upAsana.  However, पीताम्बर पीठ, दातिया has come up with शरभ तन्त्रं which is as per the said kalpa.  The e-book is found here:
तदस्ति दतिया न तु दातियेति।

David and Nancy Reigle

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Dear Harsha Wari,

According to the monumental 16-volume Vedic Word-Concordance prepared by Vishva Bandhu and his helpers, the word Bheruṇḍa or its variant Bhāruṇḍa is not found in the Saṃhitās, Brāhmaṇas, or Upaniṣads. In the Vedāṅgas, Bhāruṇḍa is found three times: in Vāsiṣṭha-dharma-sūtra 28.12, in Viṣṇu-dharma-sūtra 56.13, and in Śaṅkha-likhita-dharma-sūtra 105. I was able to check the first two of these, and Bhāruṇḍa is there found as the name of a sāman that is used for purification, not as the name of a bird. The word Bhāruṇḍeya is found once, in the Baudhāyana-śrauta-pravara. I was not able to check this text.


Outside of the Vedic literature, a list of occurrences is given by K. N. Dave in his valuable 1985 book, Birds in Sanskrit Literature, p. 397. He also adds the variant spelling Bhāraṇḍa. You of course already know of the famous story of the Bhāruṇḍa in the Pañcatantra.


Interestingly, the Bheruṇḍa bird is also mentioned in the Buddhist Kālacakra-tantra, chapter 4, verse 41, where it serves as the mount for one of the deities in the body maṇḍala. The Vimalaprabhā commentary thereon does not gloss this word. Moreover, although even names are almost always translated into Tibetan in the Tibetan translations of Buddhist texts, this word is only transliterated into Tibetan letters, not translated.


So far I have not found the compound term Gaṇḍa-bheruṇḍa in Sanskrit texts, but only Bheruṇḍa and its variants. I would be glad for a reference to this. Also, I was not able to find the reference to the Bheruṇḍa that you mentioned in the Pāramātmikā-upaniṣad.


Best regards,


David Reigle

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Dear scholars,
This thread is interesting since the imagery of a double-headed-eagle (Bherunda) is found in Europe and in India.  I was surprised to find this insignia in North Germany in some of the town halls, since I belong to Mysore, where the symbol of the Royalty (Wodeyars) is (GanNDa) BheruNDa (ಗಂಡ ಭೇರುಂಡ ) The word GaNDa appears to be a typical old Kannada prefix meaning 'strong/masculine/fearsome..' The word as an honorific for Kings (11th Cent.) is available in several (about ten) epigraphs in the Mysore region. See Epigraphia Carnatica Volumes; for example:

P.K.Acharya in his Encyclopedia of Indian Architecture provides the following information (p.552):

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As far as I know, शरभ is not same as भेरुंड. I am also looking for hard evidence from Sanskrit texts. 
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K S Kannan

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​I have a faint memory of two articles on Gan​dabhetunda in QJMS (Quarterly Journal of Mythic Society). Am not able to lay hands immediately on the same.


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K S Kannan

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Located one:
Valentina Stache-Rosen 1974
"Gaṇḍbheruṇḍa - On the tradition of the double-headed bird in South India"
pp 1-24

K S Kannan

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Sorry, 1976

ajit.gargeshwari

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On Friday, 17 March 2017 19:54:54 UTC+5:30, ks.kannan.2000 wrote:
Located one:
Valentina Stache-Rosen 1974
"Gaṇḍbheruṇḍa - On the tradition of the double-headed bird in South India"
pp 1-24

David and Nancy Reigle

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Thank you, Śrī Kannan, for this reference to the article on the Gaṇḍa-bheruṇḍa by Valentina Stache-Rosen in the Quarterly Journal of the Mythic Society. Apparently the other article on this that you remembered seeing there is the one by S. Srikanta Sastri that Śrī Gargeshwari gave a link to. At this other link it is said to come from the Quarterly Journal of the Mythic Society, although it does not say what year:

http://www.srikanta-sastri.org/evolution-of-the-gandabherunda/4576393366


Thank you, Śrī Iyengar, for clarifying that the word Gaṇḍa is an old Kannada prefix meaning 'strong/masculine/fearsome,' and that it was used as an honorific for kings. That explains why it does not seem to be found in Sanskrit texts.


Regarding the reference to the word Bhāruṇḍeya in the Baudhāyana-śrauta-pravara, I forgot to add the location given in the Vedic Word-Concordance: 17:7. I have now found this in W. Caland’s edition of the Baudhāyana Śrauta Sūtra, volume 3, 1913, p. 429. It occurs in a list of names, and seems to be used in the same meaning as is found in the Dharma-sūtras; that is, it does not refer to a bird.


The Pāramātmikā-upaniṣad is a large text, and a search in the online edition did not yield the word Bheruṇḍa/Bhāruṇḍa (http://gretil.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gretil/1_sanskr/4_rellit/vaisn/vaimp_cu.htm, section 7.2). I would be glad to have the location reference for this story in this text. Perhaps a printed edition was used, and a page number can be given (Un-published Upanishads, Adyar Library, 1933, pp. 86-207; photographically reprinted in Upanisat-samgrahah, ed. J. L. Shastri, 1970, part 2, pp. 86-207).


The śarabha is also of interest to me. In the Śiva-purāṇa, Śarabha kills Narasiṃha (3. Śatarudra-saṃhitā, 12th adhyāya), and likewise in the Liṅga-purāṇa (1. pūrva-bhāga, 96th adhyāya). I have not yet been able to find a reference in the purāṇas to Bheruṇḍa in his fight with Śarabha.


Best regards,


David Reigle

U.S.A.

Harsha B. Wari'

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Mar 17, 2017, 11:58:20 PM3/17/17
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Dear scholars, 

Pranam, 

I am overwhelmed by the replies. Extremely grateful to all. I am hunting for the text of the journal of mythic society 1974 that Sri kannan Ji mentioned. 

My computer has stopped working and it will take me some time to give the exact page nos in paramatmika upanishad. Thank you David Ji. 

Atharva veda mantra section would be a good discovery. But cannot find it online. 

Aspiring to serve, 

Om Tat Sat 
Bharat Chandra Dasa (Harsha B. Wari) 

Ajit Gargeshwari

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On Sat, Mar 18, 2017 at 8:40 AM, David and Nancy Reigle <dnre...@gmail.com> wrote:

Apparently the other article on this that you remembered seeing there is the one by S. Srikanta Sastri that Śrī Gargeshwari gave a link to. At this other link it is said to come from the Quarterly Journal of the Mythic Society, although it does not say what year:

http://www.srikanta-sastri.org/evolution-of-the-gandabherunda/4576393366


​Please refer to Collected Papers of Srikantha Shastri S. Vol 1 and 2 details are available there. I don't have the books right now in front of me.


Regards
Ajit Gargeshwari
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Venkata Sriram

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Thank you Ajit Ji.  That's a beautiful article by Srikanta Sastriji.   Interesting observation of mine is that when Vishnu as Narasimha became uncontrollable then Shiva as Sharabha subdued Narasimha; and when Sharabha became uncontrollable, then Vishnu assumed the form of Gandabherunda and subdued Shiva. 

These concepts might have evolved during the those times when Shaivas and Vaishnavas were not getting along with each other.  

regs,
sriram

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Harsha B. Wari'

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Dear Sirs,

Pranam,

Below is the screenshots of the Paramatmika Upanishad providing the description about Sharabha and reference to Narasimha purana 37th chapter (page 121-123).

It is true that there is no mention of Ganda-bherunda there but instead just "Lord Narasimha".

ys, BCD

Paramatmika Up Page 89.JPG
Paramatmika up page 88.JPG
Paramatmika Up Page 121.JPG
Paramatmika Page 122.JPG
Paramatmika Up page 123.JPG

Subrahmanyam Korada

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नमो विद्वद्भ्यः

गण्डभेरुण्ड - is the name of a huge bird , which is so heavy that it is scared of sitting on any tree - branch and is seen on floor only - not much information is available about this bird ( I did not try but did not hear more than this either) .

There is a poem in Bhaaskarasatakam in Telugu ( a replica of Mayura's सूर्यशतकम् ?) , wherein a reference to गण्डभेरुण्ड is seen --

पण्डितुलैनवारु दिगुवन्दगनुण्डगन् अल्पुडोक्कडु -
द्दन्डत पीठमेक्किन बुधप्रकरंबुनकेमि येग्गगुन् ?
कोण्डोककोति चेट्टुकोनकोम्मलनुण्डग क्रिन्द
गण्डभेरुण्ड-मदेभ-सिंह-निकुरुंबमुलुण्डवे चेरि भास्करा ?

It is an उत्पलमाला ।

O ! Bhaskara !

while पण्डितs are sitting on a lower seat , if an अल्प sits on an upper seat 
what is the harm to the group of पण्डितs ?

While a monkey  is sitting on a topmost branch of the tree , aren't groups of गण्डभेरुण्ड , मदेभ and सिंह  sit under the same tree ?

The term  गण्ड is used to denote a person with great capacity / valor etc --

गण्डरगण्डडै यलवु गण्डरमेन्डुग ताण्डविंपनु-
द्दण्डविरोधिकाण्डमुल ग्र्क्कडगिंचुचु ....

 (नरसभूपालीयम् in Telugu - replica of प्रतापरुद्रयशोभूषणम्)

भारुण्डसाम in सामवेद ।

धन्यो’स्मि




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David and Nancy Reigle

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Dear Harsha Wari,

Thank you very much for sending screenshots with the relevant pages from the Pāramātmikā-upaniṣad and its commentary quoting the purāṇa passages in question. R. C. Hazra in his extensive studies of the purāṇas found that only seven or eight of even the eighteen mahāpurāṇas now extant match their descriptions and quotations found in the early writings. I have not checked what he says about the Narasiṃha-upapurāṇa, but probably we here have another case where an early quotation is no longer found in the now extant purāṇa of that name.

Best regards,

David Reigle
U.S.A.

Jayadeva Bhat

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Dear Sir,
I have requested for membership a months ago. I was going through the mail.  I am not a learned person.  However I got a link to "Kamat's Potpourri: by Mrs. Jyotsna Kamat, Ph.D

http://www.kamat.com/jyotsna/blog/blog.php?BlogID=1149

Please excuse me if you feel I am interfering.

"Gandaberunda- The Two Headed Bird

The mystical bird of Gandabherunda is featured in the emblem of the state of Karnataka. The compound name is made of ganda,the mighty, and bherunda meaning "two headed".

Its origin has been traced in hoary past in different ancient civilizations, more than 4,000 years back. The concept of two headed bird existed among Hittites, Egyptians and Sumerians as well as Hindus. The first human beings pondered over the regular movement of the Sun, tree of life and big birds soaring high in the sky all the time. This idea developed perhaps, into a celestial bird, watching in all directions.

In Egypt and Assyria it was associated with a fertility cult. It traveled through trading tribes to different regions of the then known world.

Vedic India had its concept of two birds moving eternally. Garuda in later times, received a divine stature as vehicle of Vishnu, with mythological significance. These two must have been behind the concept of mighty Gandabherunda.

In Indian subcontinent, the sculpture of this mythical bird found in Taxila (a.k.a. Taxasila) is the oldest.

The Legend of Gandabherunda

Lord Vishnu assumed avatar of Narasimha (half man-half beast) to slay demon Hiranyakashipu. But this avatar became so omnipotent that the benevolent gods began to fear of total destruction. Hence they prayed Lord Shiva. Shiva then assumed the form of Sharabha, (a mythical bird) and tamed Narasimha. (man-lion). Vishnu then transformed himself into Gandabherunda and faced Sharabha. Gandabherunda thus came to be known as symbol of immense power. Later this mighty mythical bird was adopted as an emblem by several rulers."

Continued........

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It appears that it went into the emblem of Karnataka from the emblem of Mysore

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True as written by Prof. Iyengar "I belong to Mysore, where the symbol of the Royalty (Wodeyars) is (GanNDa) BheruNDa (ಗಂಡ ಭೇರುಂಡ ) The word GaNDa appears to be a typical old Kannada prefix meaning 'strong/masculine/fearsome..' The word as an honorific for Kings (11th Cent.) is available in several (about ten) epigraphs in the Mysore region. See Epigraphia Carnatica Volumes; for example:


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Nagaraj Paturi

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S'arabha is also there in the emblem. 

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Sharabha ಶರಭ appears in the emblemsKarnataka,University of Mysore and the Karnataka Soaps and Detergents Limited.

The coat of arms of Karnataka is the state emblem of Karnataka The coat of arms is based on that of the Kingdom of Mysore and is carried on all official correspondences made by Government of Karnataka.

The arms has a red shield charged with a white two-headed bird, Gandaberunda bordered in blue.Gandaberunda is the official emblem of Karnataka state government.It was the royal insignia of erstwhile Mysore kingdom. The rulers including the current Yuvaraja also wears a pendent of the headed bird "eradu paksi" From the books of Nanjaraje Urs P.V.  "Gandaberunda was first used as a sign on coins in Vijayanagar mints, many of coins which still exists. Since then, the tradition passed on to generations. In mid 16th century, history has it that Yaduraya embarked on a Vijaya Yathra across the Mysore State to consolidate their rank. During the Yathra, an ascetic encountered and gave him a red cloth. The King offered pooja to it and accepted it as a blessing. He won all acclaim thereafter." Following his stature raising to new heights, he announced red cloth as Rajdhwaja or State flag. To add the principles of dharma and sathya, the flag got a slogan as "Sathymevodhbhavaramyaham" with imaginary bird Gandaberunda. The bird was surrounded by elephant headed lion on two sides and a lion carrying Mahishasura’s head on the top."

One can see a few picture from this link
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gandaberunda#/media/File:Relief_of_Gandaberunda_bird_(two_headed)_in_the_Rameshwara_temple_at_Keladi.jpg

Regards
Ajit Gargeshwari


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S'arabha is also there in the emblem. 

R. N. iyengar

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In continuation of the discussions on the list, I like to share the following:

1. भरुण्ड , भारुण्ड , भारुण्डेय  are names of Gotra-Rshis well documented with primary sources in the Principles of Gotra & Pravara by Chentsalrao (Mysore-1900). 

2. Srikantha Sastri's article to which link was provided is very informative, except the last page  could not be read. But, the article in no way clarifies or provides verifiable source for BheruNDa  let alone GaNDa-bheruNDa in Sanskrit literature. I wish Prof. Sastriji had provided the Puranic quotations instead of wading into Vedic texts which are amenable for multiple shades of interpretations. No doubt there is lot of folklore about both S'arabha and its supposed enemy the two-headed-eagle. Much of what we read in the Sanskrit Puranas may also happen to be contemporaneous folklore written in Sanskrit. I could not locate the figure of S'arabha in the Mysore emblems (please help me). This raises the question what is the form of S'arabha? I had heard in my Sanskrit Paathashaala days in Mysore that it was a eight legged animal which could fly and attack lions. We, as (modern) school going children had argued with our Gurus that it must be the Dinosarus. Now, any way after several decades I have located the description of S'arabha in the वीरमाहेश्वराचार सङ्ग्रहम् (chapter 17 S'arabha-leela of Shiva) by Naaganaatha 12th Cent. The animal S'arabha is depicted as having four lower legs and four upper legs and also two wings. The fight with Narasimha (Vishnu) is in the sky. Without going further, it would be interesting to know whether any sculpture of the animal or Shiva as S'arabheshvara exists. Nothing is said in the above Shaivism text about any भेरुण्ड  bird or otherwise.

3. Prof.Shastri sees not only Vedic but also astronomical connection with BheruNDa. I am sceptical, unless the celestial descriptions and imagery are shown to be correlated with the night sky. The possibility of a Vedic link  would be through Dvita a form of Fire prior to Trita and Ekata, the three elder brothers of Agni (alluded to in RV and explained in the Brhaddevata) who get offerings in the Darsha-purNamaasa rites. This is admittedly speculative!

4. The only Sanskrit textual reference to BheruNDA (भेरुण्डा) I could so far locate is in the Commentary on Soundarya-lahari by Lakshmidhara (श्लो  31). The link is with the night sky  inasmuch as the fifth phase of the moon is called  भेरुण्डा in  the Agamic texts. He quotes वसिष्ठ संहिता : .......नित्यक्लिन्ना तथाचैब भेरुण्डा वह्निवासिनी ||......In the next verse (32) he explains this explicitly as पञ्चम्यां भेरुण्डाख्या कला | .  Is an imagery of a split-head possible for moon's orb on the panchamii tithi?

5. It is not only in Russia but also in other parts of Europe (perhaps including Israel) there is renewed interest in this symbol. Much of the historical information was put down succinctly in a few lines as far as back as 1899! (Pl. see attachment available free on Jstor) I feel nothing substantively new has been added as far as European historical information is concerned.

Best regards
RNI

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double-headed-eagle.pdf

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> I could not locate the figure of S'arabha in the Mysore emblems (please help me). This raises the question what is the form of S'arabha?

---- The two elephant headed lions on either sides in the emblem are being described as S'arabhas.

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As emblem[edit]

Gandaberunda, the Karnataka state emblem, flanked by red maned yellow lion elephant Sharabha

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharabha

The Government of Karnataka, the University of Mysore and the Karnataka Soaps and Detergents Limited (KSDL-an industrial unit owned by the Government of Karnataka) have adopted Sharabha, with modifications and also appropriate justifications, as their emblem or logo.[33]

In Karnataka Soaps and Detergents Limited logo, Sharabha is depicted in the form of a body of a lion with the head of an elephant to represent the virtues of wisdom, courage and strength.[34] The Royal Emblem of Mysore has also been adopted by the University of Mysore as their logo too. This logo displays Gandabherunda flanked on either side by the lion-elephant Sharabha - stronger than the lion and the elephant and defender of uprightness, surmounted by a lion.[35]

Pranshu Samdarshi

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Also, there exists a Tantra goddess named Bherunda, who is connected with GarudaTantras and invoked for curing snakebite. In Shrividyarnava (Kashmir edition, 1947 p.342), she is positioned in the throat as a protective goddess and praised for removal of poison of the Kali age. 
(विषापहरिणी नामा कलिरूपविदारिणी l 
भेरुण्डा स्थातु में कण्ठे टोटाला स्थातु मस्तके l l)

Regards.


Nagaraj Paturi

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There seem to be usages for Bherunda as adjective meaning awful, terrible and formidable

Monier Williams:

Bheruvda,mf(a)n.(often v.l. bheratfda) terrible,
formidable, awful, MBh.; m. a species of bird, MBh.;
Hear.; (also 4aka) a beast of prey (wolf, jackal,
fox, or hyena), Lalit. (cf. pheru) ; a partic. form of
Siva (?), W. ; (a), (. N. of a goddess ( = kali), L. ;
of a YakshinT, L.; n. (*Jbhrif) pregnancy, L.

Spokensanskrit Dictionary

Recent entries into the dictionary:
भेरुण्डbheruNDaadj.terrible
भेरुण्डbheruNDaadj.awful
भेरुण्डbheruNDaadj.formidable
भेरुण्डbheruNDam.hyena
भेरुण्डbheruNDam.beast of prey
भेरुण्डbheruNDam.species of bird
भेरुण्डbheruNDan.pregnancy

Nagaraj Paturi

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Apte

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Monier Williams

Nagaraj Paturi

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चिच्चिक 

ब्रह्म २.९४.३ / १६४ 

(भेरुण्ड उपनाम वाले चिच्चिक पक्षी द्वारा पवमान नृप से संवादगदाधर तीर्थ में गौतमी स्नान से मुक्ति )

chichchika

 

Nagaraj Paturi

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विकर्ण 
नारद १.६६.१३२(वीर गणेश की शक्ति विकर्णा का उल्लेख)
ब्रह्माण्ड ३.४.२४.९(भण्डासुर - सेनानीभेरुण्ड वाहन, तिरस्करिणी देवी द्वारा वध ) 

rniyengar

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The graphic description of S'arabha in the previously cited text of Naaganathacharya is said to be from the Skaanda PuraaNa Kaalikaa khaNda (स्कान्दे कालिकाखण्डे ) :
ततश्शरभरूपेण सुव्यक्तः  परमेश्वरः | पश्यतां  सर्वदेवानां जयशब्दादि मङ्गलैः ||
सहस्रबहुर्जटिलः  चन्द्रार्धकृतशेखरः | मृगस्त्वर्धशरीरेण  पक्षाभ्यां  चान्चुना द्विजः ||
अतितीक्ष्ण महादंष्ट्रो  वज्रतुल्यनखायुधः | कंठेकालो  महापुच्छः  चतुष्पाद्वह्निसन्निभः ||
अधोगतचतुष्पादः  उपरिष्टाच्चतुष्पदः |.....                                                     (17.83-86)
The fused elephant-headed-lion on the Govt. emblem is an apology for the above S'arabha. I doubt whether the original Royal emblem designers from Mysore and their Sthapati teachers meant the fusion as S'arabha. 
RNI

Kalicharan Tuvij

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नमस्ते,

Copious discourses suggest a galactic chasm between the Scholars and the Wise; as also between the facts and the knowledge.

Ganesh K

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Ghanda Bherunda narasimha dhyana from atharvana rahasya is quoted by the karnataka king Sri Krishna Raja Kamteerava.  Akasha bhairava kalpa doesnt give upasana of ghanda bherunda but the opposite of it that is sharabha with which the ghanda bherunda fought. Hence both are not same. Also teh sahasranama or ashotttara in akasha bhairava kalpa doesnt mention this name for sharaba at all.


On Thursday, March 16, 2017 at 2:08:42 PM UTC+5:30, Venkata Sriram wrote:
Namaste,

The आकाश भैरव कल्पं details this upAsana.  However, पीताम्बर पीठ, दातिया has come up with शरभ तन्त्रं which is as per the said kalpa.  The e-book is found here:

.............
..............

Interestingly, the emblem of "Karnataka Soaps & Detergents" (whose product is the popular soap Mysore Sandal Soap) has शरभ  as their official logo.

regs,
sriram

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Dear Ganesh Mahodaya,

Pranam,

Thank you very much for your mail mentioning about atharvana rahasya. Can you kindly furnish more details where we can find these quotations by Sri Krsna Raja Wodeyar. 

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Bharat Chandra Dasa




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Ajit Gargeshwari
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David and Nancy Reigle

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Dear Scholars,

It seems that we have not yet found a description of Bheruṇḍa in any available purāṇa. Even the description of Śarabha has so far been found in only two or possibly three available purāṇas. The Skanda-purāṇa verses that Prof. Iyengar found quoted in Nāganātha’s Vīramāheśvarācāra-saṅgraham are not found in the Veṅkaṭeśvara Steam Press edition of the Skanda-purāṇa according to a search of the ślokānukramaṇī in the Nag Publishers 8-volume reprint. I could not even find the Kālikā-khaṇḍa in that edition. However, a new edition of the Skanda-purāṇa based on older manuscripts is underway (http://hum.leiden.edu/lias/skandapurana-project/).


The same three verses that Nāganātha quoted from the Skanda-purāṇa (but not the fourth half-verse) are found in the available Śiva-purāṇa and Liṅga-purāṇa. They have some variant readings, the most significant of which is the reading saṃhāra-rūpeṇa instead of śarabha-rūpeṇa. For ease of comparison I will copy the three and half verses found by Prof. Iyengar, said to be from the Skanda-purāṇa, and then follow with the quotations from the Śiva-purāṇa and Liṅga-purāṇa.


ततश्शरभरूपेण सुव्यक्तः  परमेश्वरः | पश्यतां  सर्वदेवानां जयशब्दादि मङ्गलैः ||

सहस्रबहुर्जटिलः  चन्द्रार्धकृतशेखरः | मृगस्त्वर्धशरीरेण  पक्षाभ्यां  चान्चुना द्विजः ||

अतितीक्ष्ण महादंष्ट्रो  वज्रतुल्यनखायुधः | कंठेकालो  महापुच्छः  चतुष्पाद्वह्निसन्निभः ||

अधोगतचतुष्पादः  उपरिष्टाच्चतुष्पदः |.....

 

Śiva-purāṇa, Veṅkaṭeśvara Steam Press edition, Nag Publishers reprint, 3. Śatarudra-saṃhitā, adhyāya 12, ślokas 7-9:

tatas saṃhāra-rūpeṇa suvyaktaṃ parameśvaraḥ |

paśyatāṃ sarva-devānāṃ jaya-śabdâdi-maṃgalaiḥ || 7 ||

sahasra-bāhur jaṭilaś candrârdha-kṛta-śekharaḥ |

samṛddhôgra-śarīreṇa pakṣābhyāñ cañcunā dvijaḥ || 8 ||

atitīkṣṇo mahā-daṃṣṭro vajra-tulya-nakhâyudhaḥ |

kaṇṭhe kālo mahā-bāhuś catuṣpād vahni-sannibhaḥ || 9 ||

 

Liṅga-purāṇa, Veṅkaṭeśvara Steam Press edition, Motilal Banarsidass reprint, 1. pūrva-bhāga, adhyāya 96, ślokas 65cd-68ab:

tataḥ saṃhāra-rūpeṇa suvyaktaḥ parameśvaraḥ || 65 ||

paśyatāṃ sarva-devānāṃ jaya-śabdâdi-maṃgalaiḥ |

sahasra-bāhur jaṭilaś candrârdha-kṛta-śekharaḥ || 66 ||

sa mṛgârdha-śarīreṇa pakṣābhyāṃ caṃcunā dvijāḥ |

atitīkṣṇa-mahā-daṃṣṭro vajra-tulya-nakhâyudhaḥ || 67 ||

kaṃṭhe kālo mahā-bāhuś catuṣpād vahni-saṃbhavaḥ |

 

In the shared three verses, Śarabha has four legs. The Śiva and Liṅga purāṇas then move on, making no mention of the four upper legs. Yet, tradition is very clear that Śarabha has eight legs. Even the Buddhist Kālacakra-tantra from the tenth century C.E. refers to Śarabha as “aṣṭapāda” (chapter 4, verse 41). So we may hopefully find more old references indicating this. By the way, I very much enjoyed Prof. Iyengar’s anecdote from his boyhood days at a Sanskrit pāṭhaśālā, hearing about the eight-legged Śarabha and concluding that it must be a dinosaur.


Just as the tradition about Śarabha having eight legs is old, even though we have only one unverified purāṇa reference to it, so the tradition about Bheruṇḍa overcoming Śarabha is old. The article by Śrīmatī Jyotsna Kamat that Śrī Jayadeva Bhat kindly called attention to, “Gandaberunda—The Two Headed Bird,” refers to an old sculpture that depicts this. She there writes:


“In Karnataka, Gandabherunda is carved in the scene of ‘chain of destruction’, in the Chennakeshava temple of Belur (1113 C.E). A deer becomes prey to a big python, which in turn is lifted by an elephant. A lion attacks the elephant and the lion itself is devoured by Sharabha. Finally it is Gandabherunda which finishes off Sharabha.”


So we may hopefully find some old references to the Bheruṇḍa fight with Śarabha. The available Narasiṃha-purāṇa can now be searched in an online digital edition (http://gretil.sub.uni-goettingen.de/gret_utf.htm#NarsiP). It makes no reference to Bheruṇḍa or Bhāruṇḍa, and even makes no reference to Śarabha. Yet, another and probably older version of this purāṇa did refer to Śarabha, as seen in the quotation of it given in the commentary on the Pāramātmikā-upaniṣad, found by Śrī Harsha Wari. Deborah Soifer in her 1991 book, The Myths of Narasiṃha and Vāmana, studied eighteen versions of the Narasiṃha myth from the various purāṇas and the Mahābhārata. Only two of these included Śarabha, the Śiva and Liṅga purāṇas quoted above. None of these included Bheruṇḍa.


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David Reigle

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On March 24, 2017 at 9:29 AM David and Nancy Reigle <dnre...@gmail.com> wrote:

Yet, tradition is very clear that Śarabha has eight legs. Even the Buddhist Kālacakra-tantra from the tenth century C.E. refers to Śarabha as “aṣṭapāda” (chapter 4, verse 41). So we may hopefully find more old references indicating this.

The fact that, three chapters of Purva Mimamsa Jaimini Sutras, having eight quarters each, being called Sharabhadhyayas, confirms this.

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 Namaste!

Sharabha is the Syberian Elka. The ancient people who lived in that area near the north pole, they see Elka with four legs every day, but they also believed it had eight legs at one time and the god removed the four legs leaving four legs now. 
The ancient Indians had contacts with the northern people through Aghanistan, Pamirs to all the way up. They knew Northern lights as Fire in the sky. Go through the ancient history of Tokharistan, Semi-rechye, (Dharmarajas Dvaitavana with Dvaita sarovara) and the ancient Ladies kingdom (Stree-Rajya). The ancient Chines believed that the Heaven was on the southwest border of China. They had name for it in their language. For ancient Iranians, Heaven was beyond northeast boundary of their country. They used to call it Paraadesha. From it we have Paradise in English. Thanks. NRJOSHI.

 


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Namaste,

To my knowledge, the pauranic story says that the powerful Narasimha could be controlled only by Prahlada. Seeing Prahlada approaching him,  the mighty Narasimha became pleased and affectionately took Prahlada on his lap. The Ganda-Bherunda as a royal insignia, may just be symbolic and may mean a powerful king with an affectionate  prince having  control over him (the king), or in fact it may refer to the dynasty of powerful and benevolent kings.  

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Dear Dr. Ramanujan,

This is a helpful reference, because the Purva Mimamsa Jaimini Sutras are very old. I wonder if the three chapters having eight quarters each are called Sharabhadhyayas even in old manuscripts, or perhaps in the old Shabara-bhashya. I was not yet able to find them in the editions I have.

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Dear Scholars,

It is not always easy to identify the flora and fauna mentioned in ancient texts in terms of modern names. In some cases, it is possible the nomenclature remained but the precise description was forgotten. This might have given rise to artistic and poetic imaginations which in time became symbols of power and hence remained effective as signs popularly understood for evoking special sentiments (or Rasa).  Over time verbal and mental repetitions perhaps infused reality into otherwise imaginary figures.

 

In the case of Śarabha my first impulse was to refer to the Viṣṇu Sahasranāma since Śarabha is an epithet of Viṣṇu (No. 358). But the commentaries do not relate this to the eight-footed animal but go towards the derivation of the word as Śṛṇāti iti śarabhaḥ.  This is also the explanation by Kṣīrasvāmin for the word in the Amara-kośa, where it is listed with wild animals (II.5.11). Quite interestingly,  Artha-śāstra ( II.30.35) knows this animal but sadly enough does not describe its features. Instead śarabha-krīdita and śarabha-pluta are among the 16 types of movements of horses supposedly well known to the horse trainers.

 

Śarabha as an animal is known to the Vedas, but it is not clear whether it was considered to be eight legged in the most ancient period also. Macdonell and Keith list the name in their Vedic Index, with the comment: “ In the classical literature it is a fabulous, eight-legged beast, dwelling in the snowy mountains, a foe of lions and elephants : the commentator Mahīdhara sees this sense, but without reason, in the Vājasaneyī Sarnhitā”.  Mahīdhara lived in the 16th Century and hence before one goes to the Vedic texts and commentaries it is necessary to sift through ‘classical literature’ as distinct from Vedic. In the Purāṇas the name appears as already pointed out by others in this thread. Vettam Maṇi in his encyclopaedia covers this under the genealogy of a person of this name, which does not help us in the present context. Brahmāṇḍa Purāṇa refers to śarabha in several places (I.Ch 8; II Ch 7) while describing  Creation out of Brahma’s body.  But this is just a list of wild animals, or group names of such animals. In (II.Ch26) it is an animal that could be hunted along with lions and boars (story of Kārtavīrya of Haihaya country) in the Vindhya Mountains;

 

mR^igaughAH pratyapadyanta parvatA iva medinIm |

nArAchA viddhasarvA~NgAH siMharkShasharabhAdayaH ||2.26.30||

 

There are a few more such verses but nowhere eight legs are mentioned.  The Br.Pu text with me is a southern version with only two parts. The online version from Sansknet.org has three parts the last one being mainly Lalitopākhyāna  or connected closely with Devī-upāsana. My hunch is, the second and then the third part are later additions. The first part of Br.Pu is of considerable historical interest, since it maintains the Ṛgvedic number 3339 precisely with a valid astronomical explanation.  Without digressing textual criticism, it is found the third part of Br.Pu (Online Sansknet version) surprisingly refers to Bheruṇḍā also. But śarabha and bheruṇḍa appear as vehicles for divine entities in the fight against Bhaṇḍāsura

 

vyAghrAdirohiNashchAnye pare siMhAdirohiNaH |

sharabhArohiNashchAnye bheruNDArohiNaH pare || 3.22.17||

anyAsAmapi shaktInAM vAhanAni parArddhashaH |

nR^isiMhoShTranaravyAlamR^igapakShihayAstathA || 3.29.40||

gajabheruNDasharabha vyAghravAtamR^igAstathA |

etAdR^ishashcha tirya~ncho.apyanye vAhanatAM gatAH || 3.29.41||

 

The other famous literature of the classical period namely, the Bṛhatsamhitā does not cite śarabha. However the Bṛhajjātaka in (Ch. 27.6); Dreṣkāṇa-svarūpa (anthropomorphic form of 1/3rd part of a Rāśi or 10 degrees of the zodiac) as dvipa-sama-kāyaḥ pāṇḍura-damṣṭraḥ śarabha-sama-aṅgrhiḥ…..  Clearly an animal is referred but beyond that I am unable to infer anything.  It is the Vaijayantī-kośa of Yādava-prakāśa  (11th Cent.) that gives śarabha as eight-legged and also as enemy of the elephant but not of the lion. Still utpāda is the mystery; by symmetry one may have to assume that four legs were above.


Śarabhastu gajārātiḥ utpādaśca+aṣṭapādapi | |


The word (sound-wise) nearest to śarabha is śalabha (locust, moth, grasshopper...octopod?). Incidentally some species of śalabha can have eight legs like a spider and also can fly.  But the Brahmāṇḍa Purāṇa clearly discriminates the two

sharabhaH shalabhashchaiva vyAghraH siMhastathaiva cha |

teShAM putrAshcha pautrAshcha shatasho.atha sahasrashaH ||2.7.304||


I will continue after hearing from others members.


best....RNI

Ajit Gargeshwari

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May be of interest.
According to the article of​
KR Bhavana, Shreevathsa. "Medical geography in Charaka Samhita." Ayu 35.4 (2014): 371.​

Sharabha (eight-legged deer) are said to be famous in Kashmira and Kumkuma in Bahlika.According to Charaka Samhita, Chikitsa Sthana, Yonivyapath Chikitsa, 30/90-95 & 27/45-46. 


​According to the article

van der Geer, Alexandra, Michael Dermitzakis, and John de Vos. "Fossil Folklore from India: The Siwalik Hills." (2008).
An eighteenth-century temple painting in the Pahari/Kangra style from Himachal Pradesh(now in the Philadelphia Museum of Art) depicts the sharabha as a hybrid creature, with a  beaked tiger's head, a tiger's body and legs, and large wings.
 ​
​This page has 8 Definitions of Sharabha
http://www.wisdomlib.org/definition/%C5%9Barabha

Francis Zimmermann's view are here


Pradyumna Achar

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सादरं वन्दनानि |

कविकुलतिलकश्रीमद्वादिराजतीर्थश्रिचरणविरचितरुग्मिणीशविजये महाकाव्ये "फेरुण्ड" पदस्य उल्लेखः अस्ति | "फेरुण्डो गजविरोधीपक्षिविशेषः" इति श्रीमन्नरायणभट्टकृतगुरुभावप्रकाशिका अस्य पदस्य अर्थं तत्सन्दर्भे यच्छति |

भवदीयः,
-Pradyumna

Harsha B. Wari'

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Dear scholars,

Wonderful to note the various responses. With another thread titled "Sharabha" going on and with latest post by Sri Pradyumna Acharyaji, it seems that Ganda Bherunda and Sharbha not only signified a puranic occurrence (for which more research is required) but they were actually living species that now seems to be extinct!

dasanudasa
Bharat Chandra Dasa

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R. N. iyengar

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Vedic Śarabha (Contd. from my previous post)

My interest in this animal is because it shares attention of Vedic seers with the Gaura of the Ṛgveda on which I spent time identifying it as the wild ass (Khur) still flourishing in the Rann-of-kutch region. 

Interesting and useful information has been posted in another thread by scholars in Ayurveda. From what I could understand (correction requested) Caraka and Suśruta in the BC period have not said that Śarabha had eight legs. It is in the commentaries (Chakrapāṇi-datta 10th cent; Dalhaṇa 11th cent; Kaiyadeva 15th cent) that we hear

शरभः अष्टापद उष्ट्रप्रमाणो महाशृङ्गः पृष्ठगतचतुष्पादः काश्मीरे प्रसिद्धः

Since the three repeat almost the same information, the explanation may not be due to direct observation of the animal after identification. Al-beruni (11th Cent.) in his book on India mentions that people relate that Śarabha (in the Konkan region) has four additional leg-like parts (two up-turned) at its back and that the animal attacks elephants.

Now, turning our attention to BCE texts (of the period of Caraka, Suśruta) it is found the Buddhist Śārdūla-karṇāvadāna (Ch: Māsa-parīkṣā) knows Śarabha as a wild animal that can destroy crops.

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In RV (VIII.100.6) the word śarabhāya refers to a person. In the YV texts śarabha is clearly a wild animal. Sāyaṇa bhāṣya on (KYV) Tai.Sam 4-2-10.4:

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explains śarabha as a wild animal more powerful than lion. The word seems to appear more in the Śukla YV texts than in the KYV texts (available to me).  The Kāṇva-samhitā mantra (14.5.5) very similar to the one in Tai.sam is

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Here also Sāyaṇa’s commentary on śarabha is similar;

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 there is no indication of eight legs.

The Vājasaneya Samhitā text (13.51) is almost same as the one in the Kāṇva above. However, Mahīdhara in his commentary adds ‘aṣṭāpado’ as a description of the animal.

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 Further by ‘mṛga-viśeṣaḥ’ he seems to take it as  not identified and hence special.


[Here, I very much like to add the commentary of Sāyaṇa on the above VS text for sake of comparison. But unfortunately my copy of this rare published text is with a member who borrowed it two years back and is unwilling to return it even after several reminders.]


A clearer picture of of śarabha appears in the Śatapatha Brāhmaṇa (I.2.3 and VII.5.2) and the Sāyaṇa-bhāṣya.

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As far as I know the only indologist to have discussed the above concepts of the Śatapatha Brāhmaṇa in detail is Svami Satya Prakash Sarasvati (Prof. Satya Prakash; Univ.of Allahabad, in his pūrvāśrama) in his monumental (not well known) book The Critical and Cultural Study of the Śatapatha Brāhmaṇa (Publ. V.G.Hansanand, Delhi, 2003). Here, there are deep philosophical concepts touching upon the Vedic world view on the Origin of Species. In any case clear one to one similarity and correspondence between the domestic (cow, horse, sheep, goat) and the wild (gavaya, gaura, uṣṭra, śarabha) respectively are brought out. There is a hint that man evolved out of mayu (kimpuruṣa). I do not like to digress further.


In conclusion, with belief in upamāna pramāṇa following Annam-bhaṭṭa, we can say, not only go-sadṛśo gavayaḥ but also aśva-sadṛśo gauraḥ & aja-sadṛśo śarabhaḥ ||

With regards


RN Iyengar

David and Nancy Reigle

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Regarding the article, "Gaṇḍabheruṇḍa - On the tradition of the double-headed bird in South India," by Valentina Stache-Rosen, from Quarterly Journal of Mythic Society, 1976: Recently I was able to travel to a distant library that had this volume of this journal. I photocopied it and have now scanned it. I here attach it, hoping that the attachment will come through.

Best regards,

David Reigle
U.S.A.

On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 8:26 AM, K S Kannan <ks.kann...@gmail.com> wrote:
Sorry, 1976

On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 7:54 PM, K S Kannan <ks.kann...@gmail.com> wrote:
Located one:
Valentina Stache-Rosen 1974
"Gaṇḍbheruṇḍa - On the tradition of the double-headed bird in South India"
pp 1-24


On Fri, Mar 17, 2017 at 11:31 AM, K S Kannan <ks.kann...@gmail.com> wrote:
​I have a faint memory of two articles on Gan​dabhetunda in QJMS (Quarterly Journal of Mythic Society). Am not able to lay hands immediately on the same.


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