Source of आत्मनो मोक्षार्थं जगद्हिताय च
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shankara
Mar 4, 2015, 7:19:25 AM3/4/15
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Pranams,
I am looking for the source of the quote, "आत्मनो मोक्षार्थं जगद्हिताय च". This was favorite quote of Swami Vivekananda. Was this coined by him? Or is it from ancient Sanskrit literature? I request the scholars of this group to help me.
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shankara
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Swami Karunakarananda Maharaj
Mar 4, 2015, 9:40:49 AM3/4/15
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Hari Om,
It is coined by Swami Vivekananda himself.--
निराशीर्निर्ममो भूत्वा युध्यस्व विगतज्वरः।। (भ.गी.)
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K S Kannan
Mar 5, 2015, 2:08:32 AM3/5/15
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The words of the Buddha, I suppose.
Will have to search and tell.
Kannan
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Dr.Raghavendra.Bhat
Mar 5, 2015, 3:11:35 AM3/5/15
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Namaste !
We can also find these details...
according to these, the present sentence is from Rig Veda.!!
Nityanand Misra
Mar 5, 2015, 5:36:15 AM3/5/15
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On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 1:41:35 PM UTC+5:30, Dr Raghavendra Bhat wrote:
Namaste !We can also find these details...
This search link throws up extract from a Wikipedia article which refers page 71 in the book Hinduism (ISBN 9781845574253, 2005) by Maharaja Dr. Karan Singh to state the quote's Rgvedic origin. While the Maharaja is known for his love and support for Sanskrit, on the specific page referred he simply says "the Rgvedic dictum" (and not verse) without giving any citation (recension, verse number or publication). Even though the author is reliable, this specific reference is not as it is missing a citation.
No citation here too. In addition, there is no information regarding author or editor of the content on this [hagiographic] page.
Again, no citation, and no information about author or editor.
No citation again, and the author is hardly known in the field of Sanskrit or Vedic scholarship.
This is a blogspot URL! The blogger/quizmaster, not suprisingly, does not cite the answer to any question.
according to these, the present sentence is from Rig Veda.!!
I hope Dr. Bhat is joking. None of these sources is reliable - they all seem to propagate an urban legend.
Dr.Raghavendra.Bhat
Mar 5, 2015, 5:47:53 AM3/5/15
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Namaste !
Respected Nityananda Mishra ji,
I am not joking !
I am just saying these pages/links are also saying that it is from Rig Veda..!!
I am not even saying about reliable or non reliable. I have just sent the links what i have found in web..
Thank you
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निराशीर्निर्ममो भूत्वा युध्यस्व विगतज्वरः।। (भ.गी.)
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Dr.Raghavendra.Bhat
Mar 5, 2015, 6:00:05 AM3/5/15
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On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 4:06 PM, Nityanand Misra <nmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
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निराशीर्निर्ममो भूत्वा युध्यस्व विगतज्वरः।। (भ.गी.)
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Nityanand Misra
Mar 5, 2015, 6:11:49 AM3/5/15
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On Thursday, March 5, 2015 at 4:17:53 PM UTC+5:30, Dr Raghavendra Bhat wrote:
Namaste !
Respected Nityananda Mishra ji,I am not joking !I am just saying these pages/links are also saying that it is from Rig Veda..!!I am not even saying about reliable or non reliable. I have just sent the links what i have found in web..Thank you
In my view, there is no use of posting non-reliable links and extracts from the same. Such references and extracts only add noise to a discussion. As this list is used by many knowledge seekers and academicians, I request you to please evaluate your sources before citing.
Hnbhat B.R.
Mar 5, 2015, 6:19:57 AM3/5/15
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On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 4:41 PM, Nityanand Misra <nmi...@gmail.com> wrote:
I am not joking !I am just saying these pages/links are also saying that it is from Rig Veda..!!
In my view, there is no use of posting non-reliable links and extracts from the same. Such references and extracts only add noise to a discussion. As this list is used by many knowledge seekers and academicians, I request you to please evaluate your sources before citing.
Exactly if there is no reference to the original source given, there is no use in quoting the blogers sayings like it is said in Rigveda, or it is said in Purana-s, or in our ancient scriptures, in a scholars" group. I also have the same opinion as of Nityananda.
I too got the same bloggers statements and refering to some secondary source where it is also said it is said in Rigveda, without giving any reference to the precise statement. Hence I didn't produce the links.
Reeta Bhattacharya
Mar 5, 2015, 7:58:52 AM3/5/15
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This is Swami Vivekananda's own composition. In short he wanted to say about the nature of work in Sri Ramakrishna Math and Mission.
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निराशीर्निर्ममो भूत्वा युध्यस्व विगतज्वरः।। (भ.गी.)
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Condemn none: if you can stretch out a helping hand, do so. If you cannot, fold your hands, bless your brothers, and let them go their own way.
They alone live who live for others, the rest are more dead than alive.
shankara
Mar 5, 2015, 8:31:21 AM3/5/15
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Swamiji,
Thank you for clarification. Could you please give me some reference from Swami Vivekananda's works or biography to support this.
regards
shankara
shankara
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Subject: Re: {भारतीयविद्वत्परिषत्} Source of आत्मनो मोक्षार्थं जगद्हिताय च
Swami Karunakarananda Maharaj
Mar 5, 2015, 9:47:28 AM3/5/15
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Hari Om,
Namaste.
....Off at once, to lay down your life for your own liberation and for the good of others. What good is it carrying along a load of bones and flesh! Initiated into the Mantra of extreme self - sacrifice for the sake of God, go, lay down for others this body of flesh and bones like the Muni Dadhichi! .... C.W of Swami Vivekananda Volume 6 page 473.
Following passage relates to same idea-
Another truth I have realised is that altruistic service only is religion, the rest, such as ceremonial observances, are madness -- even it is wrong to hanker after one's own salvation. Liberation is only for him who gives up everything for others, whereas others who tax their brains day and night harping on "my salvation", "my salvation", wander about with their true well - being ruined, both present and prospective; and this I have seen many a time with my own eyes. C.W of Swami Vivekananda Volume Volume 6 page 395.
Addressing then his brothers of the Order, he said: Our life is "[(Sanskrit)]-- for the sake of our self - liberation as well as for the good of the world". So what are you sitting idle for? Arise, awake; wake up yourselves, and awaken others. Achieve the consummation of human life before you pass off --"Arise, awake, and stop not till the goal is reached." C.W of S.V volume 6 page 512.
Nagaraj Paturi
Mar 5, 2015, 2:16:23 PM3/5/15
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The line could have been an own composition by Swami Vivekananda. But the idea contained in it is not. It is typical of Swamiji that most of his aphorismic expressions do not deviate from from the age old 'Hindu' tradition. Nevertheless he gives a new, contemporary twist in the interpretation of those expressions/principles.
The present line under discussion "आत्मनो मोक्षार्थं जगद्हिताय च" is a case in point.
Almost all devotional/spiritual writers in their works claim that the objective of their writing is आत्मनो मोक्षार्थं only. But almost all of them are being viewed as working जगद्हिताय च. We can not say that these authors were unmindful of the जगद्हिताय च aspect.
Another way this principle is discussed is in the context of tapas of the sages. All the tapas activities of the sages are considered by the respective sages as आत्मनो मोक्षार्थं only. But the Hindu society always considered those activities as जगद्हिताय च.
In both these cases आत्मनो मोक्षार्थं is the perspective of the saint and the sage. जगद्हिताय च is the view of the society.
The contemporary twist Swamiji gives to this principle is that he inspires the monks of the Ramakrishna order to consciously keep both आत्मनो मोक्षार्थं and जगद्हिताय च as their objectives.
The जगद्हिताय च of the devotional /spiritual literary works is to be useful to each of the readers मोक्षार्थं.
In the case of sages the जगद्हिताय च is in the form of mahimaa, the supernatural benefit to the surrounding environment and people living in it.
Swamiji's जगद्हिताय च is in the form of conscious worldly, missionary, social service activities.
Prof.Nagaraj Paturi
Hyderabad-500044
shankara
Mar 6, 2015, 1:48:18 AM3/6/15
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Namaste,
I thank all scholars who responded to my query. Though there is no conclusive evidence that Swami Vivekananda himself coined this word (as it is not said so in his biographies or his works), It is quite possible that it was coined by Swamiji.
regards
shankara
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Sri Holikatti
Mar 6, 2015, 11:49:03 AM3/6/15
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Dr. Paturi;
Thank you for your detailed explanation of Swamiji's wise words.Reply all
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