Syllable, Pada and Nakshatra

[Mārcis Gasūns]

Namaste,

  Is there a reason why this or that syllable is chosen in a nakshatra? Is there an explanation? First known or popular source?

Thanks,

Marcis

[Bvk sastry]

Namaste

Given the tradition of Five names for a child coming as a part of the ' nAma-karaNa'- samskara ;

Given the importance of individuals name to resonate with individuals body constitution ( i.e naama-pada prakruti  to resonate with Shareera- prakruti ( for Ayurveda and Mantra shaastra needs, with Universal cosmic sounds - vishwa Prakruti);

The ' vaidika Dharma Shaastra/ vedanga jyotisha sampradaya recommends the. Ame be resonant with the sounds related to Nakshatra- varna-Akshara.;

This much for reason part.

How the rushis discovered/ visioned it - is the Yoga part. This is First known source, as visioned through vedas. The knowledge acquisition mode is Yoga. The practical utility is called vyakti-samjnA- karana:: giving a name proper to the child, which brings out tbe full inner potential and help achieve the goals set as ' become and be a yogi / a rushi'. 

How this knowledge has deteriorated in practice to become a mechanized model for name selection by fancy / name change at will through a sworn affidavit / a ploy of some gurus to use as mantra-deeksha- initiation with premium charges and mystic benefit promised- is a derailed history of a knowledge discipline ( called Yoga- Samskrutham / vak- yoga).

When Samskrutham was remodeled for study as a historic tribal language  in colonial frame work and / language of God who gave scripture to chosen people - using Latin/ Greek / Araimic/ hebrew / Arabic language models, the vedic science of language- sounds from Nirukta (- applied through Jyotisha) went out of circulation! 

Can this knowledge be revived for current society benefit? Surely!

It calls for a revisit of Samskruth language modeling used in current period and bring in course corrections.

BVK Sastry

Yoga-Samskrutham University

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[Mārcis Gasūns]

On Monday, 30 January 2017 21:07:33 UTC+3, Dr.BVK Sastry wrote:

Namaste

Given the tradition of Five names for a child coming as a part of the ' nAma-karaNa'- samskara ;

Given the importance of individuals name to resonate with individuals body constitution ( i.e naama-pada prakruti  to resonate with Shareera- prakruti ( for Ayurveda and Mantra shaastra needs, with Universal cosmic sounds - vishwa Prakruti);

The ' vaidika Dharma Shaastra/ vedanga jyotisha sampradaya recommends the. Ame be resonant with the sounds related to Nakshatra- varna-Akshara.;

Thanks, so it seems https://github.com/sanskrit-lexicon/Cologne/issues/21#issuecomment-35603002 is about the same. So, for example, is your name corresponding for all the requirements? 

[Bvk sastry]

Namaste

< my name> - reg: 

The given name (= vyavahara naama) on records does not/ need not match any requirement here. Certainly not the signature line or mail ID! 

The secret names are personal for meditation use and not disclosed ; it does carry a compliance.

This rule base for naming in accordance with the nakshatra- guidance is a family tradition; observed in some families in the current period. Media hype is too much on a fringe issue. 

Where actually this guidance is to be strictly complied with is, mantra initiation for worship. There is no clarity on this topic related in current yoga-meditation practices: either in home land Bharath or beyond! Whether a guru uses it or a learner provides necessary detail!

Regards

BVK Sastry

Yoga-Samskrutham University

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[rniyengar]

My personal understanding of the Naama-nakshatra as I have heard from astrologers of the previous generation  (100 years BP) is as follows: Naama-nakshatra is a notional (perhaps based on data) approach for identifying the probable natal star from the given name, for people who do not know their date of birth and hence can not tell the astrologer their janma-nakshatra. This was used by some astrologers in mind reading, for guessing the question of the client. Now, the converse of naming based on the tables given in the traditional almanacs is followed by some. The curious feature of the table is the  vowels are concentrated near Krttika and not Ashwini.

Thanks 

RNI

[Mārcis Gasūns]

On Tuesday, 31 January 2017 13:14:25 UTC+3, rniyengar wrote:

My personal understanding of the Naama-nakshatra as I have heard from astrologers of the previous generation  (100 years BP) is as follows: Naama-nakshatra is a notional (perhaps based on data) approach for identifying the probable natal star from the given name, for people who do not know their date of birth and hence can not tell the astrologer their janma-nakshatra. This was used by some astrologers in mind reading, for guessing the question of the client. Now, the converse of naming based on the tables given in the traditional almanacs is followed by some. The curious feature of the table is the  vowels are concentrated near Krttika and not Ashwini.

Thanks, but why is Chu in Pada 1 for 1st star and not Pu? Did rishis are responsible for that or there is some logic behind it?

[Subrahmanyam Korada]

नमो विद्वद्भ्यः

Is there a reason why this or that syllable is chosen in a nakshatra? Is there an explanation? First known or popular source?

                                                         ----- Vidvan Marcis Gasuns

Not only in ज्योतिषम् , but also in  धर्मशास्त्रम् ( न कलञ्जं भक्षयेत् ) etc it is the ऋषयः / मन्त्रद्रष्टारः who are - 'प्रत्यक्षधर्माणः परावरज्ञाः

 विदितवेदितव्याः अधिगतयाथातथ्याः ’ (महाभाष्यम् - पस्पशा) ,  that decide as to what is धर्म and what is अधर्म thru योगिप्रत्यक्षम् ।

नामकरणम् is to be taken up in another thread .

धन्यो’स्मि

Dr.Korada Subrahmanyam
Professor of Sanskrit, CALTS,
University of Hyderabad,
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[Dr BVK Sastry]

Namaste

From vedanga-jyotisha perspective linked to brihaddevataa which advocates how to use veda-mantra/ pada/ varna in yajna:

 

1. Every nakshatra has a devataa.

2. Every devataa has a vedic term with an associated varna-aksara ( called Praa-akshara: aksha is the axis around which the ra- the light, the fire, the energy revolves.

3. Every given name in Jaataka related has a janma-nakshatra:: birth star which is used to make a reckoning of ' nakshatra-vyooha mandala' on shareera. This is one of the jyotisha techniques where the body parts and nakshatras are mapped uniquely for each person. 

 

In this context, the nakshatra related first sound( varna) is significant from mantrashaastra point. It may not be so much used in vyavahara(- worldly use) or even abused. 

One needs to focus in such cases on design of system and find the utility.

 

These are simple corollaries of yoga way of learning- using Samskrutham; to consider that  as mumbo jumbo and pushing it  to tribal thought - practice and mind- reading is not fair.

Cosmic laws behind the practices such as this should not be trivialized. 

Regards

BVK Sastry

Yoga-Samskrutham University

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[hnbhat]

In practice, the letters related to the stars are given in pancanga used and these are the natal star letters in naming the child to be contained in the names. This was the practice in our region. I did not know the authentic source nor yoga or Sanskrit at that time. I don't know whether the practice was unbased, but the practice was there during namakarana rituals.