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Radhakrishna Warrier

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рд░рд╡рд┐рд╡рд╛рд░┬а ┬а┬а Sunday┬а┬а ┬а┬а┬а┬а┬а┬а┬а Sun┬а

рд╕реЛрдорд╡рд╛рд░┬а┬а┬а Monday ┬а┬а┬а┬а┬а┬а┬а Moon┬а

рдордВрдЧрд▓рд╡рд╛рд░┬а┬а Tuesday┬а ┬а┬а┬а┬а┬а┬а┬а Mars┬а

рдмреБрдзрд╡рд╛рд░┬а┬а┬а┬а Wednesday┬а ┬а ┬аMercury┬а

рдЧреБрд░реВрд╡рд╛рд░┬а┬а┬а Thursday┬а┬а┬а┬а┬а┬а┬а Jupiter┬а

рд╢реБрдХреНрд░рд╡рд╛рд░ ┬а┬а Friday┬а┬а┬а ┬а┬а┬а┬а┬а┬а Venus┬а

рд╢рдирд┐рд╡рд╛рд░┬а ┬а ┬аSaturday┬а┬а┬а┬а┬а┬а Saturn┬а

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тАЛIn most languages of the world, the above relationship between the names of the weekdays and the heavenly bodies holds good.┬а In English, this is obvious in the case of Sunday, Monday and Saturday.┬а The names Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday derive from the names of Nordic gods / goddess identified as equivalent to Latin gods / goddess representing the same heavenly bodies.

How did this happen?┬а Do all these different languages derive the words for the weekdays from the same source?┬а If the source is same, what is that source?

Is it possible to say during what period the names of the weekdays entered Sanskrit or Prakrit? Do the Vedas mention the names of the weekdays?┬а Do Upanishads mention the names of the weekdays? Do any of the edicts of ancient rulers mention the weekdays?

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Radhakrishna Warrier



Kushagra Aniket

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Aug 18, 2020, 10:26:19тАпPM8/18/20
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Dear Warrier Ji,

Professor Subhash Kak has an article on it:


It seems that the similarities are primarily between Sanskrit, Latin, and Germanic traditions. Other Indo-European traditions, such as Greek, differ in the nomenclature.

I do not know the first instance of the mention of the┬аweekdays but by the time, the standard texts of Jyotisha were written, this naming convention was well-established. Strength due to weekday (рд╡рд╛рд░рдмрд▓) is included in calculation of planetary strength (рд╖рдбреНрдмрд▓).

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Kushagra┬а

Kushagra Aniket
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рди рдХреЗрдирд╛рдкрд┐реТ рднреМрддрд┐реСрдХреЗрдирд╛рд╡реТрдзрд┐рдирд╛реТ рд╕рдВрд╡реСрджрддрд┐реТ рд╕рдкреНрддрд╛реСрд╣рдГред рдЕрд╣реНрдирдГреС рд╢реБреТрджреНрдзрдГ рд╕рдкреНрддреСрдЧреБрдгреЛреТ рд╣рд┐ рд╕рдГред рди рдХрд╛рдкрд┐реТ рддрд╕реНрдпреТ рднреМрддрд┐реСрдХреА рдкрд░рд┐рднрд╛реТрд╖рд╛ рднреСрд╡рддрд┐, рд╡рддреНрд╕реТрд░рд╕реНрдпреТ рдорд╛рд╕реТрд╕реНрдпрд╛рд╣реНрдиреСрд╢реНрдЪреТ рдпрдерд╛реТ рднрд╡реСрдиреНрддрд┐ред┬арддрдерд╛рдкрд┐реС рд╕рдкреНрддрд╛рд╣рд╛рдиреБрд░реВреТрдкрдХреНрд░рд┐реСрдпреИреТрд░реН рдиреГрднрд┐реСрд░реНрд▓реЛреТрдХреЗ рддреСрджреНрд╡рд╛рд░рд╛рдиреБрд╕рд╛реТрд░реА рдкреНрд░реСрднрд╛реТрд╡рдГ рдХреНрд░рд┐реСрдпрддреЗред рдпрдерд╛реС рдорд╣рд╛рдирдЧреТрд░реЗрд╖реБреС рд╕рдкреНрддрд╛рд╣рд╛реТрдиреНрддреЗ рднреВрдпреСрд╕рд╛реТ рд╡рд░реНрд╖реСрддрд┐ рджреЗреТрд╡рдГред рдмреЗрдЩреНрдЧрд│реВрд░реБрдореБрдореНрдмреИрдирдЧреТрд░рдпреЛреСрд░реН рдЕрджрд░реНрд╢рдВ рдпрддреНрд░рд╛рд╡реСрд╕рдореНред

The week does not correspond to any physical duration. It is just an exact seven-fold of a day. It has no physical definition (like that of a year or a lunar month or a day). Still, because of men carrying out their activities in accordance with the week, the effect is accordingly created. For example, it rains a little more on weekends in big cities (I have observed this in Bengaluru and Mumbai, where I have lived).

Rahul Vedi

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Dear Warrier mahodaya

Aryabhatta has given an explanation for the sequencing of the week day's names.
Surya Siddhanta also provides two shlokas on how to determine the lord of the weekday, month and year.

This was posted by Sudarshan Bharadwaj & Nilesh Nilkanth Oak on their WordPress page.

Aryabhatiya

To date, the best explanation for this particular ordering of the weekdays and their association with various grahas comes from a verse in the Aryabhatiya, composed by the Indian mathematician and astronomer Aryabhatta (Aryabhatiya, KalaKriya Pada, Verse, 16):

рд╕рдкреНрддреИрддреЗ рд╣реЛрд░реЗрд╢рд╛: рд╢рдиреИрд╢реНрдЪрд░рд╛рджреНрдпрд╛ рдпрдерд╛рдХреНрд░рдордВ рд╢реАрдШреНрд░рд╛:|
рд╢реАрдШреНрд░рдХреНрд░рдорд╛рдЪреНрдЪреНрддреБрд░реНрдерд╛ рднрд╡рдиреНрддрд┐ рд╕реВрд░реНрдпреЛрджрдпрд╛рджреН рджрд┐рдирдкрд╛: ||

The (above mentioned тАУ mentioned in previous verse) seven Grahas beginning with Saturn, which are arranged in the order of increasing velocity, are the lords of the successive hours. The Grahas occurring fourth in the order of increasing velocity are the lords of the successive days, which are reckoned from Sunrise (in Lanka).

(Sanskrit word тАШGrahaтАЩ is generally translated as тАШplanetsтАЩ in astronomical context. This is a mistake. The meaning of тАШgrahaтАЩ is тАШone that graspsтАЩ. Thus, in the astronomical context, the word тАШgrahaтАЩ means an astral object that grasps another astral object (e.g. тАШGrahaтАЩ approach-ing a nakshatra тАУ a visual delusion, of course). It also means an astral body that exerts attractive force on the earth.)
What we have above is a тАШmnemonic deviceтАЩ. The original form or explanation can be understood or explained in few different ways.

The lords of the twentyfour hours (with hours being measured from sunrise at Lanka) are: Saturn, Jupiter, Mars, Sun, Venus, Mercury, Moon, Saturn, Jupiter, Mars, Sun, Venus, Mercury, Moon, Saturn, Jupiter, Mars, Sun, Venus, Mercury, Moon, Saturn, Jupiter, Mars, respectively, and the lords of the seven days are: Saturn, Sun, Moon, Mars, Mercury, Jupiter, Venus, respectively.

The lord of the day is the lord of the first hour of that day, the day being measured from sunrise.


Surya Siddhanta

Surya Siddhanta has similar explanation (Bhugoladhyaya -78)

рдордиреНрджрд╛рджрдз: рдХреНрд░рдореЗрдг рд╕реНрдпреБрд╢реНрдЪрддреБрд░реНрдерд╛ рджрд┐рд╡рд╕рд╛рдзрд┐рдк:
рд╣реЛрд░реЗрд╢рд╛ рд╕реВрд░реНрдпрддрдирдпрд╛рджрдзреЛрдз: рдХреНрд░рдорд╢рд╕реНрддрдерд╛

Starting from the Saturn downward, the fourth graha is called the lord of the day. The graha starting from the Saturn successively downwards are the lords of the hour.

My copies of the Surya Siddhanta (Pt Madhava Prasad Purohit and a translation by Burgess/Ganguli) has a slightly different shloka number.

рдорджрд╛рдиреНрдзрдГрдХреНрд░рдореЗрдг рд╕реНрдпреБрд╢реНрдЪрддреБрд░реНрдерд╛ рджрд┐рд╡рд╕рд╛рдзрд┐рдкрд╛рдГ ┬аред
рд╡рд░реНрд╖рд╛рдзрд┐рдкрддрдпрд╕реНрддрджреНрд╡рддреНрддреГрддреАрдпрд╛рд╢реНрдЪ рдкреНрд░рдХреАрд░реНрддрд┐рддрд╛рдГ ┬арее ┬аренреп ┬арее
рдКрд░реНрдзреНрд╡рдХреНрд░рдореЗрдг рд╢рд╢рд┐рдиреЛ рдорд╛рд╕рд╛рдирд╛рдордзрд┐рдкрд╛рдГ рд╕реНрдореГрддрд╛рдГ ┬аред
рд╣реЛрд░реЗрд╢рд╛рдГ рд╕реВрд░реНрдпрддрдирдпрд╛рджрдзреЛрд╜рдзрдГ рдХреНрд░рдорд╢рд╕реНрддрдерд╛ рее реореж рее


Starting from the Saturn downward, the fourth graha is called the lord of the day. The graha starting from the Saturn successively downwards are the lords of the hour.
Downward sequencing from Saturn, third graha is lord of the year. Counting upwards from Moon is the lord of the month.
bhavadiiya
Vedi Rahul


On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 2:00 PM рдЙреТрдЬреНрдЬреНрд╡реТрд▓рдГ <ujjwal....@gmail.com> wrote:
рди рдХреЗрдирд╛рдкрд┐реТ рднреМрддрд┐реСрдХреЗрдирд╛рд╡реТрдзрд┐рдирд╛реТ рд╕рдВрд╡реСрджрддрд┐реТ рд╕рдкреНрддрд╛реСрд╣рдГред рдЕрд╣реНрдирдГреС рд╢реБреТрджреНрдзрдГ рд╕рдкреНрддреСрдЧреБрдгреЛреТ рд╣рд┐ рд╕рдГред рди рдХрд╛рдкрд┐реТ рддрд╕реНрдпреТ рднреМрддрд┐реСрдХреА рдкрд░рд┐рднрд╛реТрд╖рд╛ рднреСрд╡рддрд┐, рд╡рддреНрд╕реТрд░рд╕реНрдпреТ рдорд╛рд╕реТрд╕реНрдпрд╛рд╣реНрдиреСрд╢реНрдЪреТ рдпрдерд╛реТ рднрд╡реСрдиреНрддрд┐ред┬арддрдерд╛рдкрд┐реС рд╕рдкреНрддрд╛рд╣рд╛рдиреБрд░реВреТрдкрдХреНрд░рд┐реСрдпреИреТрд░реН рдиреГрднрд┐реСрд░реНрд▓реЛреТрдХреЗ рддреСрджреНрд╡рд╛рд░рд╛рдиреБрд╕рд╛реТрд░реА рдкреНрд░реСрднрд╛реТрд╡рдГ рдХреНрд░рд┐реСрдпрддреЗред рдпрдерд╛реС рдорд╣рд╛рдирдЧреТрд░реЗрд╖реБреС рд╕рдкреНрддрд╛рд╣рд╛реТрдиреНрддреЗ рднреВрдпреСрд╕рд╛реТ рд╡рд░реНрд╖реСрддрд┐ рджреЗреТрд╡рдГред рдмреЗрдЩреНрдЧрд│реВрд░реБрдореБрдореНрдмреИрдирдЧреТрд░рдпреЛреСрд░реН рдЕрджрд░реНрд╢рдВ рдпрддреНрд░рд╛рд╡реСрд╕рдореНред

The week does not correspond to any physical duration. It is just an exact seven-fold of a day. It has no physical definition (like that of a year or a lunar month or a day). Still, because of men carrying out their activities in accordance with the week, the effect is accordingly created. For example, it rains a little more on weekends in big cities (I have observed this in Bengaluru and Mumbai, where I have lived).

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Nagaraj Paturi

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Nilesh Oak

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This is correct. And appears to be the reason why it was not followed with rigor in ancient India, in spite of its creation/invention in ancient India.

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