Navyavyakarana?

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Madhav M. Deshpande

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Apr 13, 2013, 4:42:07тАпPM4/13/13
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Dear BVP members,

┬а┬а┬а┬а I am trying to find readable information regarding the concept of Navyavyakarana to assign to students to read.┬а I don't find any book in my library that contains the word navyavyakarana, nor do I find anything in the World Cat.┬а Google search gives only lists of institutions that offer degrees in Navyavyakarana.┬а I am aware that many Indian universities offer degrees in Navyavyakarana, but I have been unable to get hold of a degree syllabus online.┬а I have most of the original texts and commentaries from authors like Bhattoji, Kaundabhatta, Nagesa etc., but I am looking for something that I can assign to students to read to give them an idea of the difference between Prachina and Navya Vyakarana.┬а I would appreciate any suggestions from scholars.┬а These students know basic Sanskrit, but are not at a level sufficient to read grammatical commentaries in original.
┬а┬а┬а┬а With best regards,

Madhav Deshpande
Professor of Sanskrit and Linguistics
University of Michigan
Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA

Sharadatanaya

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Apr 14, 2013, 4:22:38тАпAM4/14/13
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The attached file may be useful but not directly
sidhantakoumudi antyesti.pdf

Madhav M. Deshpande

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Apr 14, 2013, 9:05:22тАпAM4/14/13
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Dear Shri. Sharadatanaya,

┬а┬а┬а┬а Thank you so much for this pdf (Siddh─Бntakaumud─л-antyeс╣гс╣нi).┬а I had not seen this work.┬а Among the critiques of Bhaс╣нс╣нoji listed by this book, I have copies of the works of Jagann─Бtha, Cakrap─Бс╣Зi, Vi┼Ыve┼Ыvara and N─Бge┼Ыa, but I have not seen Mauni Kс╣Ыс╣гс╣Зa Bhaс╣нс╣нa's Manoram─Бkhaс╣Зс╕Нana and Bh─Бskara D─лkс╣гita's ┼Ъabdakaustubhad┼лс╣гaс╣Зa.┬а Were these ever published?┬а I would appreciate any information regarding these works.┬а The NCC lists a manuscript of Ke┼Ыava's Manoram─Бkhaс╣Зс╕Нana.┬а I have seen critiques of Bhaс╣нс╣нoji D─лkс╣гita by several M─Бdhva scholars, but they seem to focus more on rejecting his Advaitic work Tattvakaustubha, rather than being critiques of the Siddh─Бntakaumud─л or Prauс╕Нhamanoram─Б.┬а In any case, thanks for this book by Rajendranath Shastri.


Madhav Deshpande
Professor of Sanskrit and Linguistics
University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA

Veeranarayana Pandurangi

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Apr 15, 2013, 2:52:57тАпPM4/15/13
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Sir

it is the course in JRRSU.

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Veeranarayana N.K. Pandurangi
Head, Dept of Darshanas,
Yoganandacharya Bhavan,
Jagadguru Ramanandacharya Rajasthan Samskrita University, Madau, post Bhankrota, Jaipur, 302026. India

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Nityanand Misra

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Apr 16, 2013, 12:21:49тАпAM4/16/13
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On Sunday, April 14, 2013 4:22:38 PM UTC+8, Sharadatanaya wrote:
The attached file may be useful but not directly



Thanks for the interesting work. A lot of insights, and a lot of laughing moments too.┬а

I believe Siddhantakaumudi, when used as a stepping stone for Mahabhashya and/or as a reference, is useful. Though memorizing the SK is not useful, ┬аit is to be understood rather than memorized. In most traditions commentaries are to aid understanding and original texts are the ones which are memorized.┬а

Not all SK and LSK teachers discourage from memorizing Ashtadhyayi. The brilliant commentary Sridharamukhollasini in Hindi by Govind Prasad Sharma on the LSK throughout focusses on memorizing the Sutra order of Ashyadhyayi and the forms (useful again in this age), but not on memorizing the commentary itself.┬а

At several places in the book the criticism has gone hilariously overboard - the claim that nobody gave any importance to SK till Bhattoji locked up and physically bashed (рдорд░рдореНрдордд being the term used) Jnanendra Saraswati and let him go only when he promised to compose a commentory (Tattvabodhini) is one such example of imagination running wild. :) Then being Arya Samajis, the authors have to assail Bhattoji for calling Pratyahara Sutras as Maheshwara Sutras.┬а

Even if one believes in their criticism of the SK, the blame must go to the creator of Prakriya Kaumudi for being the first work which changed the order of Paninian Sutras and organizing them as Prakaranas (which is no small achievement in itself).┬а

Shankarji Jha

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Apr 16, 2013, 4:11:29тАпAM4/16/13
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Speechless thanks for your excellent inputs. Please categorically list the works belonging to Praacheena and Navya Vyaakaranas being studied nowadays. With regards,

Shankarji Jha,
Professor of Sanskrit,
Deptt of Sanskrit,
Panjab University,
Chandigarh-160014, INDIA



Date: Mon, 15 Apr 2013 21:21:49 -0700
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Shankarji Jha

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Apr 16, 2013, 4:14:46тАпAM4/16/13
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Please provide a clear list of the works belonging to Praacheena and Navya Vyaakaranas. With regards,


Shankarji Jha,
Professor of Sanskrit,
Deptt of Sanskrit,
Panjab University,
Chandigarh-160014, INDIA



Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 00:22:57 +0530
Subject: Re: {рднрд╛рд░рддреАрдпрд╡рд┐рджреНрд╡рддреНрдкрд░рд┐рд╖рддреН} Navyavyakarana?
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narayanan er

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Apr 16, 2013, 5:39:06тАпAM4/16/13
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Sir,
I have seen the list given by Professor Pandurangi. I failed to follow the criteria in labelling works as pr─Бc─лna vy─Бkaraс╣Зa and navya vy─Бkaraс╣Зa, as some of the same texts are found repeated for the courses of bachelor degrees post degrees. There are discussions on the view points among the scholars; i.e. for instance, the rapratyahara is to be imagined on not on the basis of the sixth Mahesvarasutra: laс╣З, and there are the rapratyaharamaс╣Зdana┬аand rapratyaharakhaс╣Зdana (uphold & refute). Then for the support of each views the Mahabhashya comments are brought on to the picture, as the rules like: рдЙрд░рдгреНрд░рдкрд░рдГ, рдЕрддреЛ рд▓реНрд░рд╛рдиреНрддрд╕реНрдп etc. As I had raised a question on рд░рдкреНрд░рддреНрдпрд╛рд╣рд╛рд░рдкреНрд░рдпреЛрдЬрдирдореН three years ago, and Professor H N Bhat had replied on that. Here is the link:
Here we see navyas and pracinas comment differently on the same issue.
I feel that the difference of opinion on the issue of "what really Panini had intended", and the debate on different view points as the new ideologists and the traditional ideologists.
So, as Professor Jha requested, we have classify the authors as new ideologists and the traditional ideologists.
Regards,
Narayanan┬а


From: Shankarji Jha <shanka...@hotmail.com>
To: Veeranarayana Pandurangi <veer...@gmail.com>
Cc: Bharatiya Vidvat parishad <bvpar...@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 16 April 2013 1:44 PM
Subject: RE: {рднрд╛рд░рддреАрдпрд╡рд┐рджреНрд╡рддреНрдкрд░рд┐рд╖рддреН} Navyavyakarana?

Sharadatanaya

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Apr 16, 2013, 10:08:27тАпAM4/16/13
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Sri Charudeva Sastry opposes Bhattoji in many cases, for instance his
order of sutras in sanhita prakarana is not effective.

no need to blame prakriyasarvasa because until that nobody was stopped
the method of astdhyayi learning.

Venimadhavasukla (author of praiskara darpana) also critisizes
bhattoji in some place in his kaumudikalpalathika (being commentary to
it)

On Apr 16, 2:39┬аpm, narayanan er <drernaraya...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Sir,

> I have seen the list given by Professor Pandurangi. I failed to follow the criteria in labelling works as pr─Бc─лna vy─Бkaraс╣Зa and navya vy─Бkaraс╣Зa, as some of the same texts are found repeated for the courses of bachelor degrees post degrees. There are discussions on the view points among the scholars; i.e. for instance, the rapratyahara is to be imagined on not on the basis of the sixth Mahesvarasutra: laс╣З, and there are the rapratyaharamaс╣Зdana┬аand rapratyaharakhaс╣Зdana(uphold & refute). Then for the support of each views the Mahabhashya comments are brought on to the picture, as the rules like: рдЙрд░рдгреНрд░рдкрд░рдГ, рдЕрддреЛ рд▓реНрд░рд╛рдиреНрддрд╕реНрдп etc. As I had raised a question on рд░рдкреНрд░рддреНрдпрд╛рд╣рд╛рд░рдкреНрд░рдпреЛрдЬрдирдореН three years ago, and Professor H N Bhat had replied on that. Here is the link:https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!msg/bvparishat/Z0gQpwOS6...


> Here we see navyas and pracinas comment differently on the same issue.
>
> I feel that the difference of opinion on the issue of "what really Panini had intended", and the debate on different view points as the new ideologists and the traditional ideologists.
>
> So, as Professor Jha requested, we have classify the authors as new ideologists and the traditional ideologists.
> Regards,
> Narayanan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> >________________________________

> > From: Shankarji Jha <shankarji...@hotmail.com>
> >To: Veeranarayana Pandurangi <veera...@gmail.com>


> >Cc: Bharatiya Vidvat parishad <bvpar...@googlegroups.com>
> >Sent: Tuesday, 16 April 2013 1:44 PM
> >Subject: RE: {рднрд╛рд░рддреАрдпрд╡рд┐рджреНрд╡рддреНрдкрд░рд┐рд╖рддреН} Navyavyakarana?
>
> >Please provide a clear list of the works belonging to Praacheena and Navya Vyaakaranas. With regards,
>
> >Shankarji Jha,
> >Professor of Sanskrit,
> >Deptt of Sanskrit,
> >Panjab University,
> >Chandigarh-160014, INDIA
>
> >________________________________
> >Date: Tue, 16 Apr 2013 00:22:57 +0530
> >Subject: Re: {рднрд╛рд░рддреАрдпрд╡рд┐рджреНрд╡рддреНрдкрд░рд┐рд╖рддреН} Navyavyakarana?

> >From: veera...@gmail.com
> >To: madhavd...@gmail.com


> >CC: bvpar...@googlegroups.com
>
> >Sir
> >it is the course in JRRSU.
> >рдкреНрд░рд╛рдЪреНрдпрд╡реНрдпрд╛рдХрд░рдг рдЖрдЪрд╛рд░реНрдпрдкреВрд░реНрд╡рд╛рд░реНрдзреЗ

> >рдорд╣рд╛рднрд╛рд╖реНрдпрдореН 1-5рд╡рд╛рдХреНрдпрдкрджреАрдпрдореН рдмреНрд░рд╣реНрдордХрд╛рдгреНрдбрдГ


>
> >рдЖрдЪрд╛рд░реНрдпреЛрддреНрддрд░рд╛рд░реНрдзреЗ

> >рдорд╣рд╛рднрд╛рд╖реНрдпрдореН 7-8рдкрд░рдорд▓рдШреБрдордЮреНрдЬреВрд╖рд╛


> >рдирдиреНрджрд┐рдХреЗрд╢реНрд╡рдХрд╛рд░рд┐рдХрд╛
> >рднреВрд╖рдгрд╕рд╛рд░рдГ
> >рд╢рдмреНрджрдХреМрд╕реНрддреБрднрдГ
> >рдкреНрд░реМрдврдордиреЛрд░рдорд╛
>
> >рдирд╡реНрдпрд╡реНрдпрд╛рдХрд░рдг рдЖрдЪрд╛рд░реНрдпрдкреВрд░реНрд╡рд╛рд░реНрдзреЗрд╢рдмреНрджреЗрдиреНрджреБрд╢реЗрдЦрд▒рдГ
> >рднреВрд╖рдгрд╕рд╛рд░рдГ
> >рдкрд░рд┐рднрд╛рд╖реЗрдиреНрджреБрдГ
>
> >рдирд╡реНрдпрд╡реНрдпрд╛рдХрд░рдг рдЖрдЪрд╛рд░реНрдпреЛрддреНрддрд░рд╛рд░реНрдзреЗрд╢рдмреНрджреЗрдиреНрджреБрд╢реЗрдЦрд▒рдГ
> >рднрд╛рд╖реНрдпрдВ 1-4 рдЖрд╣реНрдирд┐рдХ
> >рд╡рд╛рдХреНрдпрдкрджреАрдпрдВ рдмреНрд░рд╣реНрдордХрд╛рдгреНрдбрдГ
> >рд╡реНрдпреБрддреНрдкрддреНрддрд┐рд╡рд╛рджрдГ
> >рдкреНрд░рд╛рдЪреНрдпрд╡реНрдпрд╛рдХрд░рдг рд╢рд╛рд╕реНрддреНрд░реА
> >рдХрд╛рд╢рд┐рдХрд╛ 1-8
> >рд╢рдмреНрджрдХреМрд╕реНрддреБрднрдГ
> >рдкрд░рд┐рднрд╛рд╖реЗрдиреНрджреБрдГ
> >рдирд╡реНрдпрд╡реНрдпрд╛рдХрд░рдг рд╢рд╛рд╕реНрддреНрд░реА
> >рд╕рд┐рджреНрдзрд╛рдиреНрддрдХреМрдореБрджреА
> >рдкреНрд░реМрдврдордиреЛрд░рдорд╛
> >рдкрд░рдорд▓рдШреБрдордЮреНрдЬреВрд╖рд╛
>

> >On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 2:12 AM, Madhav M. Deshpande <madhavd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >Dear BVP members,
>
> >>┬а┬а┬а┬а I am trying to find readable information regarding the concept of Navyavyakarana to assign to students to read.┬а I don't find any book in my library that contains the word navyavyakarana, nor do I find anything in the World Cat.┬а Google search gives only lists of institutions that offer degrees in Navyavyakarana.┬а I am aware that many Indian universities offer degrees in Navyavyakarana, but I have been unable to get hold of a degree syllabus online.┬а I have most of the original texts and commentaries from authors like Bhattoji, Kaundabhatta, Nagesa etc., but I am looking for something that I can assign to students to read to give them an idea of the difference between Prachina and Navya Vyakarana.┬а I would appreciate any suggestions from scholars.┬а These students know basic Sanskrit, but are not at a level sufficient to read grammatical commentaries in original.
> >>┬а┬а┬а┬а With best regards,
>
> >>Madhav Deshpande
> >>Professor of Sanskrit and Linguistics
> >>University of Michigan
> >>Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA
>
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Hnbhat B.R.

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I too endorse the view of Nityananda Mishra. Neither memorizing Ashtadhyayi nor SK rotten by heart will do any thing good, but only after digesting the systems individually and understanding the systems. The Bridge between the two systems of learning seems to be Nagesha Bhatta who wrote commentaries on both AS and SK and traditionally his words are considered as the final on Mahabhashya issues, by the followers of SK system.

One can easily list out many loopholes in the wide network of Mahabhashya as well as SK AND its commentaries and sub commentaries, which are a matter of concern for the traditional grammarians who can defend or offend anything with their intellectual supremacy. But criticizing any one of the systems seems not justified for learners or scholars trying to understand the difference of the systems.

It was Rupavatara, by a buddhist Dhrmakirti, to present the forms in the sections which equal to LS. And the commentatary Nyasa by Jindendra Buddhi, on Kashika on the other system, on Ashtadhyayi, also offers the prakriyA for the examples, given in Kashika much earlier than Prakriyakaumudi or rUpavatAra also probably. (I ┬аam not sure of the date). The point is a reconciliation of both systems after digesting the systems was on its way at the time of Jinendra Buddhi himself.

There is a discussion on this poing what is Vyakarana, Navya Vyakarana, I think starts from Kaundabhatta's Bhushanasara, abridgement of VaiyakaraNabhuShaNa, probably following the suit of VyutpattivAda of Gadadhara. I mean, the Navyanyaya style of Parishkara, and presentation of VaiyakaraNaBhuShaNa.

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Madhav M. Deshpande

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I would like to thank all those who responded to my question regarding the division between pr─Бc─лna and navya vy─Бkaraс╣Зa.┬а Like the view expressed by Shri H N Bhat, I believe that the navya phase of vy─Бkaraс╣Зa begins with the introduction of the language of navya-ny─Бya in grammatical works, especially those of Kauс╣Зс╕Нabhaс╣нс╣нa and N─Бge┼Ыa, and probably has little to do with the distinction between the K─Б┼Ыik─Б method of studying P─Бс╣Зini in a textually linear fashion and the Prakriy─Б method that begins with Dharmak─лrti's R┼лp─Бvat─Бra and culminates in the work of Bhaс╣нс╣нoj─л.┬а I am especially interested in looking at all those places where N─Бge┼Ыa uses expressions like "Navy─Бs tu" to distinguish his own views from those of earlier grammarians, often including Bhaс╣нс╣нoj─л and Kauс╣Зс╕Нabhaс╣нс╣нa.┬а The commentaries of Vaidyan─Бtha in particular are very useful in identifying who N─Бge┼Ыa is referring to in his criticisms.┬а This use of "navya" is probably a much more specific use referring to N─Бge┼Ыa's own views as against those of other older grammarians, and has probably little to do with the use of navyany─Бya terminology.┬а In any case, the discussion on the list has been very useful, and I wish to thank all responders.┬а With best wishes for the new year,


Madhav Deshpande
Professor of Sanskrit and Linguistics
University of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, USA

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