Possible combinations of sopasarga words

[Mārcis Gasūns]

Namaste,

 How many different combinations of sopasarga words are there in Sanskrit? I used an .xls (Woerterbuch-Praefix_Stat_250k_101213_v8) macro on 250 000 Sanskrit (and a few non-Sanskrit that are in Sanskrit dictionaries) and it gave me 1974 results, many of which are false positives, some need correction, lesser part are correct. So the final number should be much lower. I need only unique cases, so some after correction will be no more of interest for the statistics.

 If we have “praty” instead of “prati” in the file it’s not because there is such an upasarga. It’s because how .xls works and I manipulate it that way. So that should not be meant to have some deep meaning behind it.

 The only book with examples I know is 5 volumes of Upasargartha Chandrika, all scanned, here is vol. 1. https://www.dropbox.com/s/o84ao5xj0rzx8uj/Bharatiya-UpasargarthaChandrika-P1-1976.pdf?dl=0 Full list at https://www.dropbox.com/s/bxi5hp4nwxvc5xy/1974-upasarga.txt?dl=0 Can you help me to clean the file?

Fine:

• 731 dur-ati 2 duratikrama

• 1327 sam-pra 285 sampradātā

• 1828 vi-ni 173 vinikarttavya

• 819 nir-ā 151 nirāka

To-be corrected:

• 25 abhi-pra-ṇī 2 abhipraṇī

• 1961 vy-ud-a 4 vyuda

• 908 ni-vī 4 nivīta

• 1669 ucch 123 ucchiṃhana

False:

• 1713 ul-apa 4 ulapa

• 512 ā-sv-a 4 āsva

• 1659 sv-a-sv-a 5 svasvakāla

• 1 a 11607 a

• 149 an 1766 anakṣ

• 1614 sv-a 1365 sva

• 235 an-ava 131 anavakara

M.

[Hnbhat B.R.]

On Wed, Sep 3, 2014 at 3:52 PM, Mārcis Gasūns <gas...@gmail.com> wrote:

Namaste,

 How many different combinations of sopasarga words are there in Sanskrit?

Theoreticlly there may be combinations of prefixes (upasarga-s 20 or 21) x the maximum number of  धातु in various धातुपाठ-s by different writers. A concordance of Sanskrit Dhatupatha-s - G B Pasule gives a concordance of different roots given by different compilers of Dhatu lists.

I have not counted the number of Dhatu-s. Possibility of number of combination may vary between the actual usage (covered by the compilers of the dictionaries available) and theoretical possibility (20x21 x the total number of roots). A list of combination of used prefixes with roots (used) is given by CarudevaShastri, in his 178971256-Upasargartha-Chandrika-Part1- 5 (Bharatiya-Vidya-prakashan-NewDelhi-1976) a practical guide on the use of the prefixes with difference of meaning from the cited usages from different sources. and the compound word formed with the prefixed verbs would amount to a large number than the roots (verbs) listed with their basic meanings.

Congratulations for your efforts.

 

[Mārcis Gasūns]

Namaste,

Thanks for your detailed as always answer. I'm working on a new edition of Palsule since 2006, as a proof I'm adding one layer of the work as a .pdf. Too bad I did not meet him when he was still alive in 2004. The work is almost done, still last proofreading is ahead and there is nobody to write the preface. A lot of mistakes have been corrected. So yes I know Palsule and when you say "I have not counted the number of Dhatu-s." I can say - I have, about 20 times, because I have found lost ones and deleted duplicates. aṃça on page 1 is 1, hvel on page 164 is 3690. After a year I'll know the final number. I'm compiling a concordance of roots, in which Palsule's concordance is only 1 column, so it takes time - something I should never have started.

21x3690=77490. But that is not what I want to know. I treat each combination of upasargas as unique. So the number is around 1000? times bigger than 77490. Here I need help, because of the combinations. That way I can check Carudeva Shastri as well afterwards - how many are realized in real language. I count vi, ni as unique, but vi-ni as a combination unique as well.

I have counted upasargas and pratyayas. Now I need help, to make the data closer to what the language actually is, otherwise the NLP tools add false positives that should have not be there.

[Amba Kulkarni]

Hello Mārcis,

I have come across the maximum number of prefixes in समभिव्याहार = सम्+अभि+वि+आङ्+हृ

Apte gives the etymology, and hence it should be possible to find the frequent combination of prefixes from there, in addition to of course upasargaarthachandrikaa

Best,
Amba Kulkarni

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[Mārcis Gasūns]

Namaste Amba,

  Thanks, cases with 4 prefixes I've seen and Apte might serve as a source. The question would be - if it's a source similar to upasargaarthachandrikaa in it's fullness. To get the answer after a few month of work would be tough.