Sarawati River in Mahabharat

[Narayan Joshi]

Dated April 30, 2019

Respected Scholars, Namaskar!

There are Saraswati River  and Oghavati river  in Afghanistan.There is Saraswati Sangama in Afghanistan. Madras, Vahlikas and Stree Rajya of Mahabharata were outside of the India and Pakistan. The ancient name of Croasia was H'Rat that is Harahati. River names in Lithuania are Indian river names. With expanded vision ancient history is much more Interesting. Thanks. N.R.Joshi

[Ramakrishnan]

Yes, Afghanistan (including adarsha, the place where the Sarasvati river disappears in the sand) is the westernmost limit of the Vedic civilization (Aryavarta) as per dharmashastra texts. This adarsha (the place where the current Helmand river disappears) is also exactly on the the current southwestern border of Afghanistan.

The current northern border of Afghanistan is the वक्षु (Oxus) river. The वक्षु is also a well known river in the Vedic and early classical sanskrit literature.

The borders of the current republic of India does not include the entire aryavarta of the vedic era. So we need to give more importance to Afghanistan as we might find more tangible finds of early Indian civilization from there if we start looking more seriously.

Regards,

Ram

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[Siddharth Wakankar]

Suprabhat.

My friend,Dr.Padmakar V Pathak, an IITMumbai Chemical Engineer, wrote a small book containing neatly 110/120 pages,describing on the basis of Archaeological finds,the Indian influence in Afghanistan. In fact,the named his book based on his Thesis,as The Afghan Connection.It was done under  my senior friend Dr.Arvind P.Jamkhedkar and was published in the early years of 2000.

You may profitably refer to it and get benefited.

Prof. Siddharth Y Wakankar.

Vadodara.9427339942.

[Narayan Joshi]

Prof Wakankar, I think your friend's name is Promod Pathak. N.R.joshi

[Siddharth Wakankar]

Respected Dr.Joshi,

You are right. His name is Pramod.

Hope,you have read his book.

Prof. Siddharth Y Wakankar.

Vadodara.9427339942.

[Yogesh Solanki]

This article mentions 'grave' of Hindu King Prithviraj Chauhan little distance from Kabul. 

http://indiafacts.org/why-babur-beckons-nehru-gandhis/

[kamalesh pathak]

Vedic sarasvati

Rigved and yajurveda refers saraswati, post Vedic era or Mahabharata era says this with little change of name

Jain and baudha era are little silent about Vedic river, 

Unfortunately we are missing midival history of jio socio political , so follow Al biruni or westerners and we don't know actually what was the reason that Vedic sarasvati river lost thy flow full of glory,  some Pandits tried out to map up Vedic sarasvati,  I will remember विद्या वाचस्पति स्व.  के. का. शास्त्राणि who published a book on Vedic saraswati during the time of modiji as CM of Gujarat,  I also will add ISRO researcher thakkar sahib who used satellite images to confine path of Vedic sarasvati from himalay to prabhas, 

Regards

Kamalesh pathak 

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[Siddharth Wakankar]

The late Padmashri Dr.Vishnu Shridhar alias Haribhau Wakankar of Ujjain,a world.famous archaeologist, successfully tracked the path of the Lost Sarasvati River and that material was partially published from Pune.

It seems many modern scholars are not able to read or appreciate that valid research based on archaeology and assisted by many scholars from different fields.

The interested may benefit by studying that material.

It seems that Dr.Kalyanaraman or Kalyanasundaram of Chennai has written some papers based on some of that material.

Best luck in our and your efforts to know the truth.

Prof. Siddharth Y Wakankar.

Vadodara.9427339942.

[Megh Kalyanasundaram]

Namaste, 

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/bvparishat/evzC7OzIzhE/sAHM9kl0AQAJ contains a link to our paper Sarasvatī in the Mahābhārata - A Study , co-authored by Manogna Sastry, presented at third International Conference on Sarasvati River (Feb 8-9, 2019) at Panjab University, Chandigarh, India, 2019

All our sources for that paper are included in the paper. 

Best, 

Megh Kalyanasundaram

Abstract: The mammoth significance of the Mahābhārata to Indic Chronology is readily seen in the copious scholarship dedicated not only to examining its epoch but also in particular to dating of river Sarasvatī. While there are several works studying Sarasvatī in the earliest Sanskrit texts and drawing inferences and arguments from textual evidence to address critical issues plaguing early Indic chronology, a similar effort—to comprehensively document, from 89000+ verses of the Bhandarkar Oriental Research Institute (BORI) critical edition of the Mahābhārata and analyse it in its context to draw inferences that could be of relevance to early Indic chronology—forms the crux of this paper. The authors’ work consists of a database of 222 verses of Sarasvatī from the BORI critical edition of the Mahābhārata. This database enables the study of the qualifiers associated with the river, including vitality, an especially crucial factor when considered with the geographical markers associated with it, thus providing a framework against which contemporary scientific research draws greater perspective. We particularly look at the verses that indicate the vitality of the river in the light of scientific evidence from fields including geology, geomorphology, geohydrology to explore the possibility of a terminus ante quem for the textual material. The authors believe that their database, when combined with the parameter of geographical coordinates, fills an important place in textual analysis of the epic with regards to the timeline of the Sarasvatī itself, and by extension the chronology of the events of the Mahābhārata.

On Thursday, May 9, 2019 at 9:09:44 PM UTC+5:30, Siddharth Wakankar wrote:

The late Padmashri Dr.Vishnu Shridhar alias Haribhau Wakankar of Ujjain,a world.famous archaeologist, successfully tracked the path of the Lost Sarasvati River and that material was partially published from Pune.

It seems many modern scholars are not able to read or appreciate that valid research based on archaeology and assisted by many scholars from different fields.

The interested may benefit by studying that material.

It seems that Dr.Kalyanaraman or Kalyanasundaram of Chennai has written some papers based on some of that material.

Best luck in our and your efforts to know the truth.

Prof. Siddharth Y Wakankar.

Vadodara.9427339942.

On Sun 5 May, 2019, 10:31 PM kamalesh pathak, <kamlesh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Vedic sarasvati

Rigved and yajurveda refers saraswati, post Vedic era or Mahabharata era says this with little change of name

Jain and baudha era are little silent about Vedic river, 

Unfortunately we are missing midival history of jio socio political , so follow Al biruni or westerners and we don't know actually what was the reason that Vedic sarasvati river lost thy flow full of glory,  some Pandits tried out to map up Vedic sarasvati,  I will remember विद्या वाचस्पति स्व.  के. का. शास्त्राणि who published a book on Vedic saraswati during the time of modiji as CM of Gujarat,  I also will add ISRO researcher thakkar sahib who used satellite images to confine path of Vedic sarasvati from himalay to prabhas, 

Regards

Kamalesh pathak 

On Sat, May 4, 2019, 07:09 Yogesh Solanki <yogeshso...@gmail.com wrote:

This article mentions 'grave' of Hindu King Prithviraj Chauhan little distance from Kabul. 

http://indiafacts.org/why-babur-beckons-nehru-gandhis/

On Tuesday, April 30, 2019 at 12:10:18 PM UTC-5, giravani33 wrote:

Dated April 30, 2019

Respected Scholars, Namaskar!

There are Saraswati River  and Oghavati river  in Afghanistan.There is Saraswati Sangama in Afghanistan. Madras, Vahlikas and Stree Rajya of Mahabharata were outside of the India and Pakistan. The ancient name of Croasia was H'Rat that is Harahati. River names in Lithuania are Indian river names. With expanded vision ancient history is much more Interesting. Thanks. N.R.Joshi

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[Siddharth Wakankar]

I faintly remember that Sanskrit scholar,Prof.Dr.Mohammad Ismail Khan of the Delhi University,wrote a book,named, Sarasvati in Sanskrit Literature,some 40/50 years back.

It may be profitably read.

Prof. Siddharth Y Wakankar.

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