PhD training is no longer fit for purpose — it needs reform now

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Nagaraj Paturi

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Jan 22, 2023, 5:34:22 AM1/22/23
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https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-023-00084-3

PhD training is no longer fit for purpose — it needs reform now

If researchers are to meet society’s expectations, their training and mentoring must escape the nineteenth century.

These days, there’s barely a world leader who doesn’t talk up science. Prime Minister Narendra Modi was the star turn at the annual Indian Science Congress, held this month in Nagpur, where he exhorted the nation’s researchers to do the science needed to make India self-reliant. At last October’s landmark Communist Party congress, Chinese Premier Xi Jinping set out his vision of how science and innovation could drive growth. And last August, US President Joe Biden signed the CHIPS and Science Act, which unlocks US$13.2 billion for semiconductor research and workforce development, in a bid to maintain the country’s technological primacy.

In each case, the message to researchers is crystal clear: leaders see science as essential to national prosperity, well-being and, of course, competitiveness. So, is research fit for the challenge of advancing, refining or critiquing these goals? Not exactly. And it won’t be until there is fundamental reform to the gateway to a research career: PhD training.

Training in trouble

As Nature and other publications have reported persistently, PhD training worldwide has been in trouble for some time. Read more

BVK Sastry (G-S-Pop)

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Jan 22, 2023, 11:45:04 PM1/22/23
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Namaste Patur garu  

 

1.   Thanks for sharing  an important and interesting article .

Can you please expand on what these mean to ‘ Traditional Vidwans of Bharath, focused on ancient texts and language – rules ? Would they / Should they  just end up as ‘forest hermits’ wearing ( or not wearing !) Saffron or holding a stick or staff in the coming decades ? 

 

2.   The connections that readers may overlook are the following :

 

a) The three articles relate to three different time-line periods and two world major nations and a prominent reporting journal. ( That is for objectivity and Global relevance highlighting!) . The time line of impact is 2025 to 2035.

 

b) All three articles Highlight  FINANCIAL FIGURE and FUTURE NEED / HUMAN –SKILLED EDUCATION GAP to be Bridged. Which translates to PRIORITIZED PLANNING AND PROACTIVE INVESTMENT ACTION – IN RELEVANT WAYS / Not repeating- rehashing the  old ‘seeds yielding the same neems’.

PRIORITIZED PRO-ACTIVE ACTION FOR POWER AND SELF-RELIANCE  Beyond PRIORITIZED PRIDE –HISTORIC IDENTITY TALK.

 

c) The Table in the link shows which nation is ‘attracting and garnering the ‘ Talent Pool’ to achieve its ambitions to the ‘ First – Leader / Shooter’ in the world economy of education and employment.  In other words, how rest of the world is contributing their Public Tax wealth to make a feed that makes them subservient to super power aspirants !

 

 

I recall how one of the very senior think tank persons  from deep party core,  raised this question, almost 40 years ago, ( around 1980’s – as a part of  graduation event)-  in a prominent, closed door meeting of ‘Guru-kul Policy makers’ at Bangalore. I was just a novice to understand the importance of the reason behind the question !

 

The question, articulated way back in pre-covid time (?!)  still sounds in my ears:

 

What is the social relevance of spiritual traditions / sacred texts, beyond  playing a second fiddle blessing for electoral candidates ?   

Why should Gov. invest Public Tax money on ‘Religion-Science/ Language’ encouragement ?

Why Macaulay becomes irrelevant in shaping Independent India to become ‘ Maha-Bharath’ , especially from Economic – Education and Employment oriented Global platform ?

Identity –Pride will lose its spine and brain without ‘Economic Atmanirbharataa’.

[ Artha-viheenam Purusham, artha- prayojana-rahitam-  Vidya-karma na shobhate ;; 

  Dushtah arthah -  Dushtah vinoyogah-  Phalam bhavati daasyam].

 

Regards

BVK Sastry

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bharat gupt

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Jan 23, 2023, 12:04:31 AM1/23/23
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I have suggested to many vice chancellors and chairman UGC 
that PhD be given for reading transcribing editing and prefacing an important manuscript. 
The IGNCA, which now has Manuscript Mission under its wings would be happy to cooperate with universities to open its manuscript collection for this purpose.

Also why not give PhD for translating a classic from one Indian language to another. Critical introduction and translations are greater contributions than the cut and paste work that most thesis consist of. 
With regards 
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Nagaraj Paturi

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Jan 23, 2023, 12:12:09 AM1/23/23
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Dear Dr B V K Sastry avare,

It is shared here because it is a group focused on research , PhD research included.

The area focused broadly belongs to Humanities.

Humanities has traditionally been looking up to Sciences for a role model. 

The article shows that that Sciences area itself is finding /feeling itself in crisis with regard to PhD training. 

This is the opportune time to realize that the same old Sciences based Social Sciences based PhD training in Sanskrit departments and Sanskrit universities. 

PhD training in Humanities in general and Sanskrit departments and universities in particular should shed its low self esteem and start its own PhD training based on Shaastric reasoning, Anveekshakee, Tantra Yuktis etc. 

Hope this clarifies. 





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Nagaraj Paturi

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Jan 23, 2023, 1:02:35 AM1/23/23
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Correction:

This is the opportune time to realize that the same old Sciences based Social Sciences based PhD training in Sanskrit departments and Sanskrit universities should be discarded. 

not

This is the opportune time to realize that the same old Sciences based Social Sciences based PhD training in Sanskrit departments and Sanskrit universities. 


Sathya Narayanan N

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Jan 23, 2023, 1:44:48 AM1/23/23
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Phd has become more like a degree completion on Engg/Science. Quality research is mostly absent. AAA/ AA type of conference publications are considered as criteria. And most of these conferences are hijacked by top professors or universities. Adding to that,  students and profs have to complete the degree for promotions. 

Bijoy Misra

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Jan 23, 2023, 9:45:04 AM1/23/23
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Friends,

I thank Prof Paturi for having forwarded the article in Nature for discussion.  I want to
share an anecdote from when I was in college.  The agriculture college was on strike
because the students wanted to open more agricultural colleges such that the graduates
can get teachers' jobs.  Later on I saw people were doing PhD because of some promotional
need or for a CSIR fellowship for sustenance.  PhD research for application development
for the need of the country did not take root seriously till about the '80s.  As I notice there
is no organized plan how to utilize technology for the particular case in India.  There is
massive marketing of consumerism to label India as a "developing" nation.

The label above totally hides the fundamental developments of human living that India
developed and nurtured over thousands of years.  There is a large amount of work on
interpreting texts than understanding the fundamentals.  India needs a pool of talented
multi-disciplinary young researchers who are well grounded in the sciences and have
developed motivation for exploring  the massive heritage of India.  This may need a
whole cabinet Department of creating institutions to offer special scholarships to young
people who would like to explore the fundamental sciences of ayurveda, yoga, music,
voice, dyes, metals, construction and environment.   The issue is not political, but
deeply intellectual.  Research must be not simply to rehash the past but cultivate it
to gain higher ground in the world of knowledge.

Best regards,
Bijoy Misra

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BVK Sastry (G-S-Pop)

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Namaste Paturu garu

 

1.  Thanks for making the clairvoyant  call < This is the opportune time to realize that the same old Sciences based Social Sciences based PhD training in Sanskrit departments and Sanskrit universities should be discarded. >. Prof. Misra ji has an important point to make.

 

(Note: The reason for me to  bring up the Arabic/Persian/ Urdu / Foreign languages/ Religion –Classical languages in the response below is driven by the current reality of ‘ Sanskrit department’ in many institution’s positioned under ‘ English department / Urdu- Arabic studies / Promotion of Sanskrit as a Foreign language’ / Offering of ‘Sanskrit in the same basket as German, French … for studies’.  If the Moderators – Learned scholar’s think that ‘ Sanskrit’ alone needs to be a  focused discussion under ‘ bharatiya vidwat- parishat’, may feel  free to amend this post suitably.  If Samskruth is no different from English as a language,  then the fate of ‘Sanskrit- Research at Universities’ will not be different from ‘Arabic- Research / any other Indian  languages research at Indian Universities ’; The new model will be set elsewhere ! ).

 

2. How practical is the implementation and impact of proposed  move ?

                    on institutional process and people –already-in the pipe?

                    on administrative framework as present ?

                    in the current ‘Financial crunch suffered by the ‘language- universities’  

      and

          ‘ lay-off  spree / techno-skill - job crunch in the Techno- Industry markets’? 

            and Global operations-National Strategies like ‘Talent – Pool /Hunt’ see: articles highlighted by you pl?  

 

3.  The intent of your post, to me, seems  to be stress to bring systemic- refresh through  research –

     reformation of system : for process, goals and support. 

     The need seems to be a path way  for ‘Purusha- Artha – Jeevikaa Vrutti - udyoga karma’ of ‘Graduating

     research scholar’s (Gurkul/Universities) than alignment to   the  thought of  ‘ Saa –Vidyaa yaa Vimutaye / 

      Puro-Hita - Lokasamgraha’ = Social Wellness framework goals of Education model for self –employment

       and skills for a living.  

      The ‘Social-profession –skill training acquisition for making good earning for respectable, responsible  

      good living  is different from ‘Corporate model - Enterprise –Entrepreneur training- Research – fuelling’.

 

 4.  In my limited understanding, the  essence and essential of guru-kul tradition is delivery of skilling :  

      education for a socially relevant profession; all the time keeping in mind the socio- economic dynamics.   

      The training would be designed and regulated by appropriate ‘Guru- Institution- Centric- Network’ for   

      integrating Social goodness and Spiritual welfare (=bhukti- mukti).

 

5.  This catch up in Sanskrit systemic design seems to have  been backward looking and conservative, for

     almost  three centuries and blaming 5M – team impact for current vows.

      

6.  It is in this background,  my question comes in:  

 

     How will the proposal fit in to Todays UGC – ‘University’ institutionalized / Public Tax exchequer funded   

     Framework /  Ministry regulated Higher Education - Accreditation Model,

      Unless

      there is a Total Social Crowd  funding  (or industry funding  or religion institution funding)

     Or

      ‘Self-sustaining Self generating Education- Enterprise – profession  aligned – socio-economic eco system

         and  model for all classes and masses (including **sses who  hold the reins) ?   

 

      In short, Who is the ‘ Vaishya – Kshatriya  / Koshaadhyaksha’  to fill the gap ?

                  Would it be CSR ?? Would it  ‘Budget Line item provisioned but not prioritized  exercise’ ?

                   A Constitutional obligation fulfilling ?? A socio-political agenda talk ??

                   How does one make ‘Traditional education an Enterprise: Economically viable start up ?  

 

7.  Historically, ‘ World-Religion /  ancient civilization Wise (Not Sanatana Dharma -   Yoga-Samskruti wise),

    Papacy has globally strategized by investing great resources and controlling the shape of

    current ‘Higher Education- Research Programs / Prospect of ‘Learned Scholars’ by proactively funding

     education and employment social outreach.

 

     This is the given ‘Kuru-Kshetra’ of ‘ Sanskrit Departments/ Universities/ Funded – Ministry controlled –

     Guru –Devataa –Mandir/Gurukuls’  where ‘we all: bharatiya –vidwat- parishat jana’ seem to be locked in.

 

8.  Macaulay’s schema of addressing ‘Language of  Indian / Hindoo- Religions’ deeply affected not only  

     millennia / centuries old standing ‘Samskrutham: Language tradition and its harmonious togetherness

      with all Indic Languages along with the  social-prospect of ‘Samskruth at Indian Gurukuls’, but also

      Persian/ Arabic at Madrasas at Bharath’ protected by several centuries of pre-colonial Islamic rulers.   

    

     Surprisingly ( Or Not so surprisingly, as Christiantiy and Islam have common root of scripture) ,

    Churches’ at India did not bring in a push for ‘Latin or any other ancient classic language of

    Old Testament’ in to Indian social education stream, Universities, Research!  English (Main) and Regional

     Languages through  localization and translation became the new medium of ‘new Indian Religion’ ;

     Pushed through the ‘ Early  education / Schools –  Montessori’s – Universities’ – described as the ‘Temples

     of Education’ ; currently accelerated as ‘Digital Learning Edu-tek initiative’. 

 

9.  The impact of Macaulay’s strategy in the second part  at India  is less highlighted for various (politically

     right) reasons.

      So historically ,who stood up for Arabic and Persian / Urdu at Bharath / India? during Macaulay’s time

     and post period : Locally and Globally ? It was ‘Local Samskruth Pandits’ !

 

     And now who is leading this talk ?  Here are some links that may be  worth exploring ! 

 

Muslim educational attainment around the world | Pew Research Center  https://www.pewresearch.org/religion/2016/12/13/muslim-educational-attainment/  

 

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/299388863_Muslim_Education_in_Post-Independent_India_-Issues_Factors_and_Prospects

 

Education in Islam - Wikipedia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Education_in_Islam

 

Top 16 Islamic Universities in the World 2022 Ranking Updated (theislamicquotes.com)

https://www.theislamicquotes.com/top-16-islamic-universities-in-the-world-2019-ranking/

 

Religious Authorities in Islam (oasiscenter.eu)  https://www.oasiscenter.eu/en/religious-authorities-islam

 

10.  It is here that I conclude my request with the news snippet [Mar 05, 2016 – Venkaiah Naidu] below:

 

I am confident that the new National Policy on Education, which is being spearheaded by my colleague in the HRD ministry through over 2.75 lakh direct consultations, will restore the sanctity of universities as temples of learning.

Let our higher centres of learning be breeding grounds of reason, wisdom and responsibility instead of being fountainheads of anti-national activism. That is why such tendencies that were manifest at the JNU should be nipped in the bud.  [ Source:   

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/politics-and-nation/restoring-our-universities-as-temples-of-learning/articleshow/51263240.cms?

 

Regards

BVK Sastry

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