Problem in Word to PDF converter software

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Janakisharan Das

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Oct 13, 2015, 11:56:01 PM10/13/15
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Respected scholars and IT experts,


I am using Kokila Unicode font for writing in Devanagari. But when I convert this MS-word 2007 file in PDF using Foxit reader (https://www.foxitsoftware.com/products/pdf-reader/), some problems come-

(1) It scatters the original MS-word formatting, footnote settings, replication of some sentences.

(2) Sometimes it changes number of pages. As if original file has 115 pages, but after converting in PDF, it comes in 116 pages.

I have tried Microsoft add ins pdf converter but it doesn’t work at all.


Scholars and experts are request to help in this issue by suggesting best pdf converting software or any technical suggestion.

 

Regards  

श्रीमल्ललितालालितः

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Oct 14, 2015, 12:11:08 AM10/14/15
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I usually use Adobe Acrobat to convert word files to PDF.
It works fine.

Other way to go is to find some virtual printer, like PDFill, BullZip PDF, etc.
They will enable you to print the document to PDF format.

Google Drive also provides some option to download documents as PDF, I think.

श्रीमल्ललितालालितः
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Shrikant Jamadagni

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Oct 14, 2015, 12:39:39 AM10/14/15
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Dear Sir

Looks like  you are still using Windows XP. Even in XP if you can get Windows SP3 (Service Pack 3) installed then conversion to PDF is very easy as the option is readily available under FIle/SAve As.

Even without SP3 version, I previously used PRIMOpdf software for Word to PDF conversion and worked quite well. It is freely downloadable from the web.

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Shrikant Jamadagni
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S R Ivaturi

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Oct 14, 2015, 1:19:16 AM10/14/15
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Sir,
Conversion to PDF is not related ot OS. It is related to MS-Word. However, Word 2007 needs an add-on which Sri Das has tried.
Both Foxit Reader and Acrobat reader are only PDF readers, they do not convert to PDF. The Pro versions which are called Editors convert them.
As already mentioned by Srimallalitalalita, there are some other options.
However here the problem is not conversion to pdf. Rather rendering properly. Seems Word 2007 does not handle unicode properly.
Have you tried any English document conversion to pdf with word 2007? If they are coming properly, then we can conclude it is a problem with Word.
I'll test with Word 2007 and post again.

Regards

Dr I. Srinivasa Rao

S R Ivaturi

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Oct 14, 2015, 2:39:45 AM10/14/15
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Sir
I converted a Kokila file to pdf with Word 2007. It's okay. When you save as pdf, it will publish as pdf. Try opening it another pdf reader.

Regards
Dr. I. Srinivasa Rao 

Dr. Tirumala Kulakarni

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Oct 14, 2015, 4:41:48 AM10/14/15
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I faced same problem for my recent book. I use MSWord2007. I did this -

1. Printed it in XPS format. In print options it gives XPS option.
2. Converted that file to pdf here http://online2pdf.com/ . It creates the exact pdf.

TK

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Janakisharan Das

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Oct 14, 2015, 6:32:07 AM10/14/15
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On Wednesday, October 14, 2015 at 10:09:39 AM UTC+5:30, Shrikant Jamadagni wrote:
Dear Sir

Looks like  you are still using Windows XP. Even in XP if you can get Windows SP3 (Service Pack 3) installed then conversion to PDF is very easy as the option is readily available under FIle/SAve As.

Sir, I am using Windows 7 32 bit. So I think operating system based problem should not be there.

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Janakisharan Das

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Oct 14, 2015, 6:37:06 AM10/14/15
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On Wednesday, October 14, 2015 at 9:41:08 AM UTC+5:30, श्रीमल्ललितालालितः wrote:
I usually use Adobe Acrobat to convert word files to PDF.
It works fine.

Respected Sir,
I don't get it.
Do you use "save as" option for Ms-word file  to save it in PDF?  Which version of Abobe Acrobat?
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Janakisharan Das

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Oct 14, 2015, 6:43:30 AM10/14/15
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On Wednesday, October 14, 2015 at 10:49:16 AM UTC+5:30, isr wrote:
Sir,
Conversion to PDF is not related ot OS. It is related to MS-Word. However, Word 2007 needs an add-on which Sri Das has tried.
Both Foxit Reader and Acrobat reader are only PDF readers, they do not convert to PDF. The Pro versions which are called Editors convert them.
As already mentioned by Srimallalitalalita, there are some other options.
However here the problem is not conversion to pdf. Rather rendering properly. Seems Word 2007 does not handle unicode properly.

Respected Sir,

I think you got the right point. This problem come only when I try to convert Unicode document. English documents are being converted in PDF using Foxit Reader correctly.
So, this is Word  2007 which does not render unicode fonts properly.

Regards

kali

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Oct 14, 2015, 11:06:34 PM10/14/15
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HariH OM!


I normally use Baraha Unicode software with Sanskrit 2003 Unicode Font while editing in MS Word 2007, 2010 and 2013.

I try sometimes Kokila instead of Sanskrit 2003 Font.

And I have not faced any problem while saving the file in pdf format.

Nor do I have any problems with printing the same with my CutePDF print software which converts the word file in PDF format.

I normally do this when I send the file across the Net to my friends who may not have Sanskrit 2003 nor the Baraha software.

No one has complained so far.

This is for your info.

kalivaradhan

श्रीमल्ललितालालितः

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Oct 15, 2015, 3:55:41 AM10/15/15
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On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 4:07 PM, Janakisharan Das <janaki...@gmail.com> wrote:
Do you use "save as" option for Ms-word file  to save it in PDF?  Which version of Abobe Acrobat?

​I am using Acrobat Reader. It is paid version. It installs a virtual printer which can be used to convert documents to PDF.
Same work can be done by other suggested software.

I even remember that a document prepared in Indesign with Kokila was converted to PDF without any problem.​

Bvk sastry

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Oct 15, 2015, 12:17:06 PM10/15/15
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Namaste 
( if i am using here some traditional technical samskrut idioms, it is just drive home a paradigm of thought. If the  idiom is not understood, please dont worry! No offense or hurt meant to any one. Each one is doing their best to do deva- bhashaa- seva).

Samskrit  script conversion from one mode of document ( pdf/ word)  to another mode of document( word/ pdf) is not a simple solution of key- remaps! Which these conversion tools or screen image capturing softwares are  designed for doing.

It is a much deeper and unresolved problem! Especially for Sankrit Devanagari. And receiving high attention in research.

The ( moola- avidya) roots  of this 'varna- vikara/  akshara-bhrashtaa are deeply ingrained in Unicode and ISCII/ ISO standards related mapping of character units across languages and  proprietary rendering  of character visuals in OS and applications for language solutions  in ' your own devises'! 

An issue that should have been addressed by ALL Samskrit Linguists and technologists since 1970. Instead, patch solutions have been opted as ' pratyaamnaaya dakshinaa' model in developing inadequate solutions .

And  an issue of criticality to India, this responsibility to provide  a Samskrut Devanagari appropriate technology solution is royally passed on to the IT business-groups who look at these solutions as a market solution for profits;  it does not matter if the baby( true devanagari script rendering - Samskrit) is thrown out with the water in the tub (- the OS and office suites!).
 A ' sharanaagati'  of  dream statement ' Sanskrit is best suited language for computers( NASA - Briggs-1980's ) to roman alphabet anchored W3C standards speaking of ' world wide web in all human languages'. 
There is a long and steep road ahead . There is no need to feel complacent that ' Sanskrit is saved' . It was an act like saving indra to allow takshaka to go alive. The primary issue was saving German language; and fringe benefit was 'Sanskrit allowed to survive under the shadow of foreign language'. 

Regards
Bvk Sastry



 

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N.R.Joshi

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Oct 17, 2015, 5:51:11 PM10/17/15
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Respected IT professionals. I have problem with PDF
 
I wrote certain pages with font Arialnew given my friend. I used diacritical marks in it. When I change pages to Arial Unicode MS or PDF file, the diacritical marks do not appear right, get mixed up. PLease suggest remedy. Thanks . NR JOSHI


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From: "Dr. Tirumala Kulakarni" <tkula...@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: {भारतीयविद्वत्परिषत्} Problem in Word to PDF converter software
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 2015 14:11:46 +0530

I faced same problem for my recent book. I use MSWord2007. I did this -
 
1. Printed it in XPS format. In print options it gives XPS option.
2. Converted that file to pdf here http://online2pdf.com/ . It creates the exact pdf.
 
TK
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 9:26 AM, Janakisharan Das <janaki...@gmail.com> wrote:

 

Respected scholars and IT experts,

 

I am using Kokila Unicode font for writing in Devanagari. But when I convert this MS-word 2007 file in PDF using Foxit reader (https://www.foxitsoftware.com/products/pdf-reader/), some problems come-

(1) It scatters the original MS-word formatting, footnote settings, replication of some sentences.

(2) Sometimes it changes number of pages. As if original file has 115 pages, but after converting in PDF, it comes in 116 pages.

I have tried Microsoft add ins pdf converter but it doesn’t work at all.

 

Scholars and experts are request to help in this issue by suggesting best pdf converting software or any technical suggestion.

 

Regards  

 

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