Amitabha Ghosh book Descriptive Archaeoastronomy and Ancient Indian Chronology

[S.Subrahmanya]

Prof Amitabha Ghosh has a book out on using Archeoastronomy and  Indian

chronology.  He 

1. Descriptive Archaeoastronomy and Ancient Indian Chronology

https://www.springer.com/gp/book/9789811569029

His book is very valuable and his suggested dates based on 

archeoastronomy is given in his talk below.  

2. His talk here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aEF7b6B2pMc

It would be wonderful if the Archeoastronomy work of Prof. Ghosh & Prof. RN.Iyengar

along with the excellent work that  Sri. Shrikant Talageri has proposed,

are explored together to see if there is alignment in the details. 

This would be a very important breakthrough for the chronology of India. 

Regards

S.Subrahmanya

[Raja Roy]

Dear Shri Subrahmanya,

Thanks for providing the youtube link to the presentation. I will watch it carefully. I have the book by Prof. Ghosh. It is good to have a book on this topic by a mainstream scientist instead of amateurs.

Best regards,

Raja

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[rupa bhaty]

Dear Mr. Roy,

1. Care to explain the word "amateurs" here and what kind of authority you have to use this word for anyone here. This is uncalled for and unwarranted. An architect has to play with equinoxes, solstices and daylight factors, seasonal impact on buildings, cities and neighbourhoods etc and I have been playing with astronomy since 1995. Architecture is inseparable with Astronomy. I don't know how you deem yourself so expert while your qualification doesn't even confer that, and that may be your deep interest as you wrote in your bio in Medium blog making yourself also an amateur. I have been pursuing astronomy for the last 26 years, how many years are you indulged in? However, it is pertinent to mention that your study is altogether of a different stream of Metallurgical Engineering, which deals with metals and their properties only. Now define who is amateur, and how you deem yourself as a scholar and researcher in the field of Astronomy and Sanskrit.

2. After reading all your refutation of my works I am amply sure that you goodself don't know Sanskrit well, and for sure, as well as astronomy, otherwise you would have easily cited the evidence I provided in the blog attached to you, instead you are just doing GIGO and trying to subdue the truth which is lying naked before our eyes.

3. I proved that Agni is Vasanta, now it's your turn to refute my blog by showing me that Agni is not vasanta and is called for Hemanta. 

So do some "Original" scholarly works and don't try to subdue us scholars. I will wait for the Agni- evidence to be refuted first. 

Rest you will definitely enjoy all the rides.

Best 

Rupa Bhaty

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[rupa bhaty]

Dear Subramaniam Ji,

Thanks for sharing this video.  Recently I went through the gist of the accessible pages of the same book.

The book appears to have dealt with astronomy parts as scholarly writing well but again the same dilemmas and misinterpretation of the Vernal equinox with Winter solstice has continued the chaos on the dating of Indic texts. 

We need to see the texts in original and date them accordingly. Already, Haug, Whitney etc, during the late 19th century, (by subduing the meaning of Vishuvant presented by great sanskritist Tilak, which now appear to me as a deliberate attempt to downsize the dates under Biblical 4004 BC), has created chaos in Indian understanding of Samvatsaras. It is high time that we rectify them and make an effort to present the deep antiquity of Indian civilization. 

Thanks and regards

Rupa

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[S.Subrahmanya]

Rupa'ji

I have not read your writings, so am not aware of the specific case being made. 

There are enough scholars on this list, and they spend their lives looking at the original texts.

If you were to post the specific line/verse from the original text with what the specific mis-interpretation is, then one could get a better understanding of the issue. 

[rupa bhaty]

Dear Subramanya ji,

I have already posted a gist from my seminal peer reviewed paper presented in Vedanta conference JNU in one of my blogs refuting one of the allegations on identifying Samvatsara with Vasanta. And I have already posted the link in Bhartiyavidparishad.

I am reposting my blog link here which has rectified the hundred+ year old problem of western authors like Haug and Whitney which has still kept blindfolded us Indians with wrong translations and interpretations till to this date. For that matter they had subdued even Tilak on his assertion that Vishuvant also means equinox( see the pic attached). I have proved with all the internal evidence that Samvatsara began from Vasanta-Vishuva. I believe that this was a deliberate attempt to wrongly translate vishuvanta so as to downsize all the dates below biblical 4004 BC. And I will try to prove that too.

I will be posting the seminal paper in my Academia.edu site soon, but the blogs have also explained them well.

Kindly see the gist here. 

https://rupabhaty.home.blog/2021/03/28/epoch-of-uttaraphalguni-10000-bce-no-ifs-no-buts/

https://rupabhaty.home.blog/2021/03/29/heliacal-rising-in-tai-brah-to-ascertain-the-nakṣatra-in-vernal-equinox/

https://rupabhaty.home.blog/2021/04/01/kṛttikas-in-varṣa-ṛtu/

Regards

Rupa

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[rupa bhaty]

Please also note- Vishuva( vernal equinox) to vishuvant(autumnal equinox) and then vishuvant( autumnal equinox) to vishuva( vernal equinox) were two pakshas of the year. Therefore, Vishuvant- i.e., central Sattra day. I will be bringing evidence soon and few evidence from Aitereya Brahmana too in my coming blogs.

rgds

[Raja Roy]

Just to make it clear, you are dating Taittiriya Brahmana 1.1.2.1 to 28,260 BCE, Taittiriya Brahmana 1.1.2.2 to 16,780 BCE, and Taittiriya Brahmana 1.1.2.3 to 15,000 BCE. Is that right?

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[rupa bhaty]

Dear Nagraj ji,

Thank you for pointing me out for the word "Seminal" here. I will take care of the word henceforth. 

My intention was to write "original". I will use that word from now.

Regards

Rupa

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[rupa bhaty]

Dear Mr. Roy,

You are shifting your goal from Agni as Vasanat, which is at your disposal for further refutation. 

best

Rupa

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[Raja Roy]

I won't worry about it. Think about defending your 12,000 BCE date of Surya Siddhanta this weekend.

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[rupa bhaty]

"I won't worry about it.", Such should not be the spirit of investigation by an ameatuer even. I worry for each single word in every text. I will deem that you don't have anything original to offer against "Agni in Vasanta". 

Go ahead with your pile ups, if original contribution, then only I will respond or else I don't have time for GIGO.

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[rupa bhaty]

"Think about defending your 12,000 BCE date of Surya Siddhanta this weekend."....Are you threatening me Mr. Roy?

[Nagaraj Paturi]

I request both Mr Roy and Ms Bhaty to be calmer and mutually respectful and avoid combative tone in their debating each other's views and defending one's own views.  

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[Bijoy Misra]

Until Raman discovered Raman effect, the blue of the ocean was connected to the blue of the sky as reflection.

Aristotle had a knack of creating correlations.  India lived on it in creating local astrology.  The islam substantiated

the sky configurations to their success in slaughtering people.  The British tried to predict monsoons and ocean currents

through the birthrate of white elephants in Thailand. We have to restrain ourselves when Mars is not an angry planet any more!

By the way, an instrument designed by me is moving in Mars right now!

Bijoy Misra

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[Raja Roy]

Dear Shri Nagaraj,

Thanks for your note. I will take care in future.

Raja

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[Raj Kombiyil]

>>By the way, an instrument designed by me is moving in Mars right now!

Curiosity's sake, can you explain in 2-3 sentences? Or a URL would be fine too. On perseverance? Congrats!

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[Bijoy Misra]

Dear Dr. Raj,

It is currently classified.  It would be public eventually.

Basically it is an auto-navigator run by laser detection.

It detects the surface and the environment and determines

the direction and speed of movement.  There are other

parameters. You can contact me privately if you have

scientific interest.

Regards,

Bijoy Misra

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