पुरुषप्रयत्नः and प्रारब्धं

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Venkata Sriram

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Sep 23, 2019, 6:39:26 AM9/23/19
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Namaste,

I need the reference of the shloka which seems to be referred in योगवासिष्ठः that says something 
similar to this:

"when two rams namely पुरुषप्रयत्नः and प्रारब्धं fight each other with horns, it is the 1st ram in the form of पुरुषप्रयत्नः wins the fight and thus it is confirmed that
one can change one's destiny"

I would be highly obliged if scholars can point to the reference.

rgs,
sriram
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A K Kaul

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Sep 23, 2019, 7:53:50 AM9/23/19
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Shri Sriramji,
Jai Shri Ram!
It is the fifth shloka of the fifth Sarga of Mumukshyu-Vyavhar Prakrana of the Yogavasishtha, attached herewith.
In fact, almost the entire Mumukshyu-Vyavhar Prkrana---nay the entire --योगवासिष्ठ- has extolled efforts vis-a-vis prarabadha!
At one place, Vasishtha Muni has said
कालविद्भिर्विनिर्नीतं यस्यास्ति चिरजीवितम् | संछिन्न शिरश्चेज्जीवति तद्दैवमुत्तमम् ||
कालविद्भिर्विनिर्नीतं यस्य पाण्डित्यं अविखन्दितं| अनधीतविद्यश्चेद्विद्वान तद्दैवं उत्तमम्||
With regardsand Jai Shri Ram!
A K Kaul
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Venkata Sriram

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Sep 23, 2019, 7:58:29 AM9/23/19
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Excellent ! Thank you Kaul Ji

rg,
sriram

shankara

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Sep 23, 2019, 8:08:47 AM9/23/19
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Sriramji,

द्वौ हुडाविव युध्येते पुरुषार्थौ परस्परम् ।
य एव बलवांस्तत्र स एव जयति क्षणात् ॥ 2.5.10॥

Like two rams our fate and exertions are fighting with one another, wherein the victory is always on the side of the stronger.

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Venkata Sriram

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Sep 23, 2019, 8:24:22 AM9/23/19
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Thank you Shankara ji...such a beautiful shloka that stresses on will power of the individual.

rgs,
sriram


On Monday, September 23, 2019 at 5:38:47 PM UTC+5:30, shankara wrote:
Sriramji,

द्वौ हुडाविव युध्येते पुरुषार्थौ परस्परम् ।
य एव बलवांस्तत्र स एव जयति क्षणात् ॥ 2.5.10॥

Like two rams our fate and exertions are fighting with one another, wherein the victory is always on the side of the stronger.

Link to complete chapter -


regards
shankara


On Monday, 23 September, 2019, 4:09:32 pm IST, Venkata Sriram <srira...@gmail.com> wrote:


Namaste,

I need the reference of the shloka which seems to be referred in योगवासिष्ठः that says something 
similar to this:

"when two rams namely पुरुषप्रयत्नः and प्रारब्धं fight each other with horns, it is the 1st ram in the form of पुरुषप्रयत्नः wins the fight and thus it is confirmed that
one can change one's destiny"

I would be highly obliged if scholars can point to the reference.

rgs,
sriram

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Roland Steiner

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Sep 23, 2019, 8:31:44 AM9/23/19
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> द्वौ हुडाविव युध्येते पुरुषार्थौ परस्परम् ।
> य एव बलवांस्तत्र स एव जयति क्षणात् ॥ 2.5.10॥

It is Yogavāsiṣṭha 2.6.10 (this stanza is lacking in the Mokṣopāya version).

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RS

Roland Steiner

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Sep 23, 2019, 8:32:40 AM9/23/19
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> "*when two rams namely पुरुषप्रयत्नः and प्रारब्धं fight each other with
> horns, it is the 1st ram in the form of पुरुषप्रयत्नः wins the fight and
> thus it is confirmed that*
> *one can change one's destiny"*


Mokṣopāya 2.5.5:

dvau huḍāv iva yudhyete puruṣārthau samāsamau
ātmīyaś cānyadīyaś ca jayaty atibalas tayoḥ


Yogavāsiṣṭha 2.5.5:

dvau huḍāv iva yudhyete puruṣārthau samāsamau
prāktanaś caihikaś caiva śāmyaty atrālpavīryavān


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RS

Roland Steiner

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Sep 23, 2019, 2:39:47 PM9/23/19
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> पुरुषार्थौ our fate and exertions

As usual, the "translation" by Vihari-Lala Mitra is wrong. Here,
puruṣārtha ("human effort or exertion") = pauruṣa. Compare, for
instance, Mokṣopāya/Yogavāsiṣṭha 2.4.17:

prāktanaṃ caihikaṃ ceti dvividhaṃ viddhi pauruṣam
prāktano 'dyatanenāśu puruṣārthena jīyate

(Ānandabodhendra's Vāsiṣṭhamahārāmāyaṇatātparyaprakāśa: puruṣārthena
pauruṣeṇa jīyate 'bhibhūyate).

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RS

Hnbhat B.R.

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Sep 24, 2019, 2:24:08 AM9/24/19
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नालम्बते दैष्टिकतां न निषीदति पौरुषे । शब्दार्थौ सत्कविरिव द्वयं विद्वानपेक्षते ॥ 1.22 ॥ माघकाव्ये।

प्राब्धमुत्तमजना न परित्यजन्ति!




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V Subrahmanian

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Sep 24, 2019, 3:06:48 AM9/24/19
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On Tue, Sep 24, 2019 at 11:54 AM Hnbhat B.R. <hnbh...@gmail.com> wrote:
नालम्बते दैष्टिकतां न निषीदति पौरुषे । शब्दार्थौ सत्कविरिव द्वयं विद्वानपेक्षते ॥ 1.22 ॥ माघकाव्ये।


Neither destiny nor personal effort singly determines the course of human life; there is great interaction between the two.  Destiny or actions of the past that have begun to fructify, human effort and divine grace together govern what happens now. Manu has compared destiny and personal effort to the two wheels of a chariot; a chariot cannot move on a single wheel. 
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