Tiger-cub and his calf friend (Not the Punyakoti-story)

[उज्ज्वल राजपूत]

I had created a thread by a similar title (in Sanskrit). But that thread has become completely dedicated to the Punyakoti story. Its not the case that I don't like the Punyakoti story. In fact, I like it very much and have been following the development of the animated Sanskrit film for at-least two years. I have listened many times to the recorded songs about Punyakoti in Hindi and Kannada and like both of them very much. I had also liked the story in the Padma purana.

But the matter of interest at hand is a different story about two friends, a tiger-cub and a calf, wherein the tiger-cub's mother preys upon the calf's mother. I first heard this story being played as a recorded song somewhere, in Hindi. On the internet, I have found, till now, two forms of the story. One in a book about folktales of Gondwana. You can read it here. The other is in a book about Kannada folktales (कन्नड लोक कथाएँ in Hindi) by Sahitya Akademi. Link to the book's entry on Google. I just wanted to know what other forms does this story exist in.

[Venkatesh Murthy]

Namaste

There is a small problem with the Punyakoti story in modern times. There is a big Save The Tiger campaign to save tigers from extinction. The population of tigers in the world has become very very small compared to earlier times.

Children seeing the Punyakoti play will think Tiger is a bad villain.

Therefore it is wrong to show the Tiger as a bad animal. When we see Durga Mata riding on tiger will we say She is riding on evil Tiger? No. Then why are we showing Tiger as bad?

Cow is a sacred animal. We must do Goraksha with all our strength. But at the same time it is wrong to think Tiger is a bad animal.

In Modern day many many more cows are killed by Man but not by Tiger.

[Venkatesh Murthy]

Namaste

As a matter of fact I suggest Punyakoti story should be changed. Instead of tiger capturing the cow we should have Yavanas and Mlecchas capturing the cow to eat her. Then cow promises to come back after feeding her calf. When cow comes back keeping her promise she will see the Yavanas and Mlecchas are killed by the Tiger. The Tiger will let her go home. Cow and Tiger both are heroes of the story.

Children watching this will have good opinion of Cow and Tiger.

[Jagannatha s]

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[K S Kannan]

na keṣām ānandam janayati Jagannātha-phaṇitiḥ ?

[Venkatesh Murthy]

दुष्टासुरगुणोपेतनरेषु उचितावसरे यदि कारुण्यादिसद्गुणा: प्रकटीभवन्ति, तर्हि कृपया वदतु किमर्थं कृष्णेन अनेकासुराः हता:? किमर्थं भगवत्या शुंभादिदैत्याः हताः? ननु यवनादयः नरविशेषा: सन्ति, ते न असुराः भवितुं अर्हन्ति, असुरा एव कारुण्यविहीनाः न नराः इति चेत्, नैतद्युक्तम्। नराणामेव देवतुल्यपुरुषा: उत्तामा:, नराणामेव मनुष्यतुल्यपुरुषाः मध्यमा:, नराणामेव असुरतुल्यपुरुषाः अधमा: इति श्रवणात् । अत एव एतदुक्तं शंकरभगवत्पादैः बृहदारण्यकोपनिषद्भाष्ये - ’न देवाः असुरा वा अन्ये केचन विद्यन्ते मनुष्येभ्यः ; मनुष्याणामेव अदान्ताः ये अन्यैरुत्तमैर्गुणैः सम्पन्नाः ; ते देवाः ; लोभप्रधाना मनुष्याः ; तथा हिंसापराः क्रूरा असुराः ’ इति । मनुष्याणामेव यवनादिगोमांसभक्षकासुराः गोमातुः देवस्वभावं परोपकारत्वं मानवसेवापरत्वं च जानन्तोऽपि तां घ्नन्ति । व्याघ्रादिहिंस्रपशूनामपि पृथ्व्यां जीवनस्य अधिकारः अस्त्येव यथा मनुष्याणाम् ।

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[उज्ज्वल राजपूत]

A similar story (of cow, calf, tigress and her cub) from Thailand (link is here) and Burma (link is here). Finding same story plot from North India, Karnataka, Thailand and Burma seems to suggest that there can be a common source, perhaps in Sanskrit or the older Prakrits. Please help me in finding more information.

[K S Kannan]

sarvatra dve dṛṣṭī bhavitum arhataḥ - 

samaṣti-dṛṣṭiḥ vyaṣti-dṛṣṭiś ceti//

sandarbhānusāram ubhayor ekatarā grāhyā/nyāyyā syāt//

sarve bhavantu sukhinaḥ - iti prathamā//

yo'smān dveṣti, yam ca vayam dviṣmaḥ 

[sa naśyatu] - ity aparā//

aucityam vā vivakṣām vā anulakṣya nirṇeyam 

- iti māmikā matiḥ//

sammarśino dharma-kāmā ito'pi yuktataram pakṣam upasthāpayeyuḥ//

On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 8:13 AM, उज्ज्वल राजपूत <ujjwal....@gmail.com> wrote:

A similar story (of cow, calf, tigress and her cub) from Thailand (link is here) and Burma (link is here). Finding same story plot from North India, Karnataka, Thailand and Burma seems to suggest that there can be a common source, perhaps in Sanskrit or the older Prakrits. Please help me in finding more information.

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[उज्ज्वल राजपूत]

Siddhi Kur, a retelling of Vetalapanchavinshatika in Mongolia contains a similar story (of calf, cow, lioness, cub). Read it here. Can someone recall if this story is present in any recession of Vetalapanchavinshatika in Sanskrit?

Also you can read the story told by a woman called Mariamma translated to English here.

[Jagannatha s]

On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 11:46 AM, उज्ज्वल राजपूत <ujjwal....@gmail.com> wrote:

Siddhi Kur, a retelling of Vetalapanchavinshatika in Mongolia contains a similar story (of calf, cow, lioness, cub). Read it here. Can someone recall if this story is present in any recession of Vetalapanchavinshatika in Sanskrit?

Also you can read the story told by a woman called Mariamma translated to English here.

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[Jagannatha s]

[Venkatesh Murthy]

अद्यतनकाले अनेकपशुपक्षिसस्यजातीनां अत्यन्तहानिकारकशत्रु: मनुष्य एव इति निर्विवादम् । अनेकपशुपक्षिसस्यजातीनां सर्वनाशः कृतः मनुष्यैः । 

व्याघ्रसिंहादिपशवः स्वभाववशात् कर्म कुर्वन्ति किंतु मनुष्यः कामक्रोधलोभादिवशात् घोरकर्म करोति येन पृथ्वीस्थितजन्तूनां परिसरस्य च हानिरेव भवति । अत एव गीतायामुक्तं भगवता -
काम एष क्रोध एष रजोगुणसमुद्भवः।
महाशनो महापाप्मा विद्ध्येनमिह वैरिणम्।।3.37।।,
त्रिविधं नरकस्येदं द्वारं नाशनमात्मनः ।
कामः क्रोधस्तथा लोभस्तस्मादेतत्त्रयं त्यजेत् ॥ १६-२१ ॥,  तथा ’नियतं कुरु कर्म त्वं कर्म ज्यायो ह्यकर्मणः। ३-८’

यदा व्याघ्रः अन्यपशून् हत्वा मांसम् अत्ति तत् व्याघ्रस्य नियतं कर्म एव । व्याघ्रस्य नियतिरेव हननं मांसभक्षणं च ।  तस्मात् अस्मिन् कर्मणि व्याघ्रस्य न कश्चिदपि दोषोऽपराधो वा अस्ति ।  कामादिप्रचोदितं गोहत्यादिघोरकर्म कुर्वाण:  मनुष्यः अवश्यं दोषभाक् भवति, न नियतिप्रचोदितं कर्म कुर्वाणः व्याघ्रः ।

On Friday, October 14, 2016 at 9:38:21 PM UTC+5:30, Jagannatha S wrote:

On Fri, Oct 14, 2016 at 11:46 AM, उज्ज्वल राजपूत <ujjwal....@gmail.com> wrote:

Siddhi Kur, a retelling of Vetalapanchavinshatika in Mongolia contains a similar story (of calf, cow, lioness, cub). Read it here. Can someone recall if this story is present in any recession of Vetalapanchavinshatika in Sanskrit?

Also you can read the story told by a woman called Mariamma translated to English here.

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[K S Kannan]

vipra-lapitam idam 

na vi-pralapitam !

[Venkatesh Murthy]

अत्र अयमाशय: - यदि पुण्यकोटिकथायां खलनायकरूपेण व्याघ्रः दर्शितः तर्हि तस्य विषये दर्शकानां विशेषतः बालानां मनस्सु कश्चित् नकारात्मकः अनादरणीयात्मकः अभिप्रायः जायते । तस्य निवारणार्थं व्याघ्रस्य पश्चात्तापेन  मरणं दर्शितम् । किंतु व्याघ्रसंरक्षणातत्त्वविरुद्धं व्याघ्रसंरक्षणाविधिविरुद्धं व्याघ्रस्य मरणं स्वीकरणीयं  इत्यपि अभिप्रायः भवेत् । सोऽपि निवारणीयः ।