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Harekrushna Pattajoshi

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Jan 12, 2016, 9:38:09 AM1/12/16
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तुन्दपरिमार्जः इत्यस्य अर्थः प्रयोगश्च कृपया दर्श्यताम् ।

Subrahmanyam Korada

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नमो विद्वद्भ्यः

तुन्दपरिमृजः - ’ तुन्दसोकयोः परिमृजापनुदोः ’ (पा 3-2-5) कप्रत्ययः - in the sense of 'अलस्यसुखाहरणयोः इति वक्तव्यम्’ (वा) - आलस्यम् - अलसः/ a lazy person .
तुन्दम् is belly ( मन्महे किमपि तुन्दिलं महः) -  we come across a lazy person with belly ,who moves his palm across/ around his belly .

Here is आयुर्वेद - why a person gets belly and how to avoid  --

भुक्तोपविशः तुन्दं हि
शयानस्य तु पुष्टता ।
आयुश्चंक्रममाणस्य
मृत्युर्धावति धावतः॥

 After having food --  if one sits he would get belly , obesity by laying (may / may not sleep) , increased longevity by stroll , early death by running .

भुक्त्वा शतपदं गच्छेत्
शनैस्तेन तु जायते ।
अन्नसंघातशैथिल्यं
ग्रीवाजानुकटीसुखम् ॥
One should walk for a hundred feet after having food . By that the food would slowly get settled and one would get comfort in the neck , knees and waist.

धन्यो’स्मि

Dr.Korada Subrahmanyam
Professor of Sanskrit, CALTS,
University of Hyderabad,
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2016-01-11 21:39 GMT+05:30 Harekrushna Pattajoshi <harekrushn...@gmail.com>:

तुन्दपरिमार्जः इत्यस्य अर्थः प्रयोगश्च कृपया दर्श्यताम् ।

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Hnbhat B.R.

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On 12-Jan-2016 8:08 pm, "Harekrushna Pattajoshi" <harekrushn...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> तुन्दपरिमार्जः इत्यस्य अर्थः प्रयोगश्च कृपया दर्श्यताम् ।
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Dear Prof. Korada,

The question was not about तुन्दपरिमृज, which was well explained by the Vartika and with your usual explanation from grammatical point of view.

The question is about the counter part, of तुन्दपरिमृज, not explained by the वार्तिक and निपात with क-प्रत्ययः।
Simply कर्मण्यण् तुन्दं परिमृजति -  तुन्ददरिमार्जः and its usage.

Thanks for your excellent explanation of तुन्दपरिमृज. The other word, if used at all, would mean one who moves his palm across/ around his belly with pain or some other reason would be तुन्दपरिमार्जः and he is asking for its usage.

For the use of तुन्दपरिमृज, there is मुरारिप्रयोग ---

. ‘इह युवतिवदनकान्तिभिराप्यायिततुन्दपरिमृजः शेते ।’ अनर्घराघवे 7-110

He wants प्रयोग for तुन्दपरिमार्जः.

Sundareswaran N.K

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Jan 12, 2016, 2:48:51 PM1/12/16
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While explaining the Amarakosha passage
पराचित परिस्कन्द परजात परैधिताः। 
मन्दस्तुन्दपरिमृज आलस्यः शीतकोलसोनुष्णः। ।
the Malayalam commentator, T. C. Parameshwara Moossad, states that all the six words in the second half (of the verse) mean a lazy person. He quotes the sutra  तुन्दशोकयोः परिमृजापनुदोः and thus shows the derivation of the word तुन्दपरिमृज. And then adds that तुन्दपरिमार्जः is an alternate reading. He does not mention about the difference in meaning ( lazy person and the person who caresses his belly), as is shown by Dr. Bhatt.
nks

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Hnbhat B.R.

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Jan 12, 2016, 9:53:23 PM1/12/16
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Thanks Prof.Sundareswaran for clarifying.

Here is the explanation by Srivatsankacharya on तुन्दपरिमार्ज in his कृदन्तरूपमाला also

अत्र कप्रत्ययस्य कित्त्वात्, ‘मृजेरजादौ सङ्क्रमे विभाषा वृद्धिम्— ’ 
(भाष्यवाक्यम् 1-1-3) इति वचनात् आलस्यरूपार्थे एव वृद्धिविकल्पमाशङ्क्य, 
‘सा भवत्येव सत्यभिधाने’ इति उद्द्योते (3-1-5) समाहितम् । So if usage is found, the form with वृद्धि, could be used as an alternative form as per Udyota. Later,

उत्तरत्र च 
यद्यनभिधानमभिमतम्, तदानीम्, ‘इको गुणवृद्धी’ (1-1-3) इति सूत्रे भाष्य- 
स्वारस्यात् निरुक्तभाष्यवाक्ये ‘अजादौ’ इत्यस्य आतिदेशिकक्ङिदजादिप्रत्यये 
इत्यर्थपरकत्वमाश्रित्य, अत्र कप्रत्ययस्यौपदेशिककित्त्वेन वृद्धिनिषेध एवेति च 
समाहितम् ।] 

The reason for the question seems to be the statement in Kashika:

आलस्यसुखाहरणयोः इति वक्तव्यम्। अलसस्तुन्दप्रिमृज उच्यते। तुन्दपरिमार्जः एव अन्यः।

सुखस्य अहर्ता शोकापनुदः। शोकापनोदः एव अन्यः।

So what is the difference shown by अन्यः in काशिका? I just guessed.

Hope Prof.Korada will clear the doubt.

Hnbhat B.R.

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Jan 12, 2016, 9:59:19 PM1/12/16
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Sorry for the typo error. Please read अलसस्तुन्दपरिमृज for "अलसस्तुन्दप्रिमृज" in my prevous post.

Nityanand Misra

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Jan 12, 2016, 11:54:38 PM1/12/16
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On Tuesday, 12 January 2016 20:08:09 UTC+5:30, Harekrushna Pattajoshi wrote:

तुन्दपरिमार्जः इत्यस्य अर्थः प्रयोगश्च कृपया दर्श्यताम् ।


Pattajoshi Ji,

Monier Williams cites a usage of tundaparimārja as HPariś. viii, 281.

 

HPariś is Hemacandra’s Pariśiṣṭaparvan. It is available on DLI. I have not cross-checked the citation, you may please do so to confirm if the usage is seen.

  
With regards, Nityanand

Subrahmanyam Korada

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Jan 13, 2016, 1:34:32 AM1/13/16
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नमो विद्वद्भ्यः

Thank you  भट्टमहाभाग for the alert - it is a case of पश्यन्नपि न पश्यति - it is there in मूलम् (कौमुदी) also  but did not notice in a hurry -सहसा विदधीत न क्रियाम् ।

तुन्द्परिमार्जः  -- तुन्दपरिमार्गः

महाभाष्यम् says -  यो हि तुन्दं परिमार्ष्टि  तुन्दपरिमार्जः स भवति ।

Added to this is - माधवीयधातुवृत्ति says - अन्यत्र तुन्दपरिमार्गः (कुत्वम्) ।

It is the same धातु - मृजू वृद्धौ ( मृजूष् - क्षीरस्वामी) - भ्वादि - मार्ष्टि ।

कैयट , न्यास , पदमञ्जरी, कौमुदी and नागेश  follow  भाष्यम् - परिमार्जः ( no कुत्वम्)

So , as far as the meaning is concerned we are left  in the lurch --

if it is अनालस्यम् then may be one is doing परिमार्जनम्  of belly - 

1.just as one scratches his head without any purpose ( such पाणिपादचापल्यम् is prohibited by धर्मशास्त्रम् - न  पाणिपादचपलः)

2. one may do while applying (coconut) oil etc. during  अभ्यञ्जनम्

3. while applying some paste recommended in आयुर्वेद for relief from pain

4. while refusing to take more food being offered - as a sign of ' my stomach is full'

5. some people suffering from constipation do this while attending  nature's call

There may be more instances.

धन्यो’स्मि


Dr.Korada Subrahmanyam
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On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 8:29 AM, Hnbhat B.R. <hnbh...@gmail.com> wrote:

Sorry for the typo error. Please read अलसस्तुन्दपरिमृज for "अलसस्तुन्दप्रिमृज" in my prevous post.

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Harekrushna Pattajoshi

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Jan 13, 2016, 5:46:22 AM1/13/16
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तुन्दपरिमार्जः इत्यस्य कोऽर्थः एकं प्रयोगक्षेत्रं कृपया दर्श्यताम् ।

Harekrushna Pattajoshi

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Jan 13, 2016, 5:46:23 AM1/13/16
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मान्या महाभागाः अभिवादये भवतः । कस्मिन् सूत्रभाष्ये यो हि......तुन्दपरिमार्जः स भवति इत्येतद्वचनं दृश्यते, कृपया सूच्यताम् । कविप्रयोगः मया कांक्षितः इति ।

Hnbhat B.R.

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Jan 13, 2016, 6:23:45 AM1/13/16
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On 13-Jan-2016 4:16 pm, "Harekrushna Pattajoshi" <harekrushn...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> मान्या महाभागाः अभिवादये भवतः । कस्मिन् सूत्रभाष्ये यो हि......तुन्दपरिमार्जः स भवति इत्येतद्वचनं दृश्यते, कृपया सूच्यताम् ।

यः हि तुन्दम् परिमार्ष्टि तुन्दपरिमार्जः सः भवति । (पा-३,२.५; अकि-२,९८.१४-२०; रो-३ ... (पा-३,२.८; अकि-२,९९.२-८; रो-३,२३०- २३१; भा-६/१२) 

कविप्रयोगः मया कांक्षितः इति ।
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Nityanand Misra महाभागस्य सन्देशः दृश्यताम्।

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