Re: {Chinchilla Longhair Interest Group} Barred Brown in Golden Persian

[Alida Delport]

Hi,

Maybe God had a plan for me in that I started the Burmilla ZA project as a once-off joke,  but later "inherited" it back when our dear friend, Alan Edwards, passed away. I am learning slowly but surely about colour genetis under guidance of Dr Johan Lamprecht, president of CASA. Johan is always willing to answer my questions and to guide me when I make mistakes. 

One of the most important things I learned with Burmillas is to look at the paw colour, as well as the liners on the lips, noses and eyes. Hair colour may be difficult to figure out with surety, especially when the kittens are very young. But the skin colour on paws, lip liners, nose liners and eye liners, gives the answer. For example, our pure-bred Original Longhair Silver or Golden (or Persian Silver or Golden) can only have have either black or blue paws, due to genetics. 

In the Burmillas and Asians however, there are colours like black, brown, blue, chocolate, lilac, cinnamon, red, cream and apricot! In addition, there is the tortie gene which produces paws, lip liners, nose liners and eye liners that have non-solid colours, for example black and pink!  

So, Sheryl, how old was the kitten from Leilani? Did she have black paws? 

Sheryl, to see pictures of the red cameo, go to Facebook and visit "Cedar Cats".  That cameo Burmilla cat, Cherie-Finesse Raegar, is featered there several times. With him is Nymeria. Mymeria is a Black Golden Shaded Burmilla, daughter of my brown Burmese Burlamien Andenika, and our Black Silver Shaded  stud, Catanova King Solomon of Cherie-Finesse, who now lives in the USA. Solomon carries Golden and Blue. Nymeria has two blue litter mates. There is where I could see clearly the difference in underlying colour between black and blue. 

Here is a glimpse of Raegar and Nymeria:

Burmillas cannot live without another cat! There must be at least 2 cats in a household for them to survive.

Alida Delport, Cape Town
"You were born an original. Don't die a copy." - John Mason

On Mon, Aug 10, 2015 at 12:39 AM, SHERYL <fire...@msn.com> wrote:

Hi Alida,

Thank you for your explanation. I find that even someone not very "science" minded such as I can understand your explanations and I thank you for making it easy.

Also, you had a cameo burmilla kitten a while back and I was wondering if you had a picture of what he/she looks like now?

Several years ago I had a kitten (from Lady Lida's daughter Leilani) who you thought may have been tarnished when I asked. But when you posted the picture of the cameo burmilla I knew that that kitten had been a cameo, very very light like a little pink sea shell were her markings. I was very sad she did not make it.

Anyway I'd LOVE to see a picture of the cameo burmilla now at an older age.

Thank you so much,

Sheryl

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From: alidad...@gmail.com
Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2015 22:40:04 +0200
Subject: {Chinchilla Longhair Interest Group} Barred Brown in Golden Persian
To: chinchilla-longha...@googlegroups.com

Dear Group members,

One of our fellow group members, Maria Kaldeweide, asked me an interesting question, which  I think will be of interest to many in the group. Therefore I answer it here. Maria wrote:

"I found the phrase "barred brown" in an article about Golden persian. I don't find this word "barred" or "barred brown" in my dictionary. What does barred means?

Maria, one of the genes in the Chinchilla Persians (and therefore also in the Original Longhair Silver and Goldens) is the Agouti tabby gene. The Agouti gene is "ticked" (giving the cat a "salt and pepper" look, like in Abyssinian. However, Ticked tabbies do have M's on their foreheads and stripes on their legs and tails. These stripes are, referred to as "barring" or "ghost markings".

In the picture below, the adult cat is a direct cross between a Burmese and a Chinchilla. You can see the slight barring on his tail. His daughter is a first generation genotype Burmilla, meaning both parents are Burmillas. Her barring is virtually not visible. 

You are German, right? I suppose the translation might have been a bit difficult. 

"Bar" means "stripe". 

• "Barred" = "Striped"
• "Barring" = "Striping"

As for "barred brown" I guess it refers to barring that are "brownish" or "rusty" in colour. It is also referred to as "tarnish". 

I am not a genetics expert. I am not sure if enough research has been done with regards to Chinchilla "tarnishing". I have seen over years that the tarnish comes and goes in the same cat. It tends to be more prominent in older cats. But it also seems that diet plays a role. 

Best regards,

Alida Delport, Cape Town
"You were born an original. Don't die a copy." - John Mason

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