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propDave
Nov 18, 2009, 8:43:05 PM11/18/09
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Hey, we're looking for someone who might be young and eager to build a
career in standards based php development. Proper disciplined methods
for software development.
http://www.facebook.com/notes/propeller-media-works/job-opening-jrmid-web-developer/169121694435
career in standards based php development. Proper disciplined methods
for software development.
http://www.facebook.com/notes/propeller-media-works/job-opening-jrmid-web-developer/169121694435
Ron Moorby
Nov 19, 2009, 11:49:22 AM11/19/09
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propDave, you've just exposed your employer to a legal suit. I don't think Propeller Media Works will appreciate that. It is against the law to discriminate by age which you are doing when you write "we're looking for someone who might be young..." I'll spare you the rational behind the law.
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Craig Bailey
Nov 19, 2009, 12:47:47 PM11/19/09
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"Young and eager" = someone they can underpay. ;)
Bradley Holt
Nov 19, 2009, 12:52:54 PM11/19/09
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Hey now, let's all be nice :-)
I think it's OK to be critical (constructively) but let's try and be
welcoming new members of the list.
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Craig Bailey <rando...@gmail.com> wrote:
> "Young and eager" = someone they can underpay. ;)
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http://bradley-holt.blogspot.com/
I think it's OK to be critical (constructively) but let's try and be
welcoming new members of the list.
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> "Young and eager" = someone they can underpay. ;)
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Rubin Bennett
Nov 19, 2009, 1:07:48 PM11/19/09
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Seconded...
Hey, Dave! Nice to see you here! Say howdy to Katrina for me.
Rubin
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Hey, Dave! Nice to see you here! Say howdy to Katrina for me.
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Steve McIntyre
Nov 19, 2009, 4:30:20 PM11/19/09
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How about Old and Eager?
;)
propDave
Nov 19, 2009, 2:07:35 PM11/19/09
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Hey Rubin
Saw your dad at Art Hop. I'll say hi to Katrina.
Best to you.
dave
On Nov 19, 1:07 pm, Rubin Bennett <rbenn...@thatitguy.com> wrote:
> Seconded...
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> Hey, Dave! Nice to see you here! Say howdy to Katrina for me.
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> Rubin
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> On Thu, 2009-11-19 at 12:52 -0500, Bradley Holt wrote:
> > Hey now, let's all be nice :-)
>
> > I think it's OK to be critical (constructively) but let's try and be
> > welcoming new members of the list.
>
Saw your dad at Art Hop. I'll say hi to Katrina.
Best to you.
dave
On Nov 19, 1:07 pm, Rubin Bennett <rbenn...@thatitguy.com> wrote:
> Seconded...
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> Hey, Dave! Nice to see you here! Say howdy to Katrina for me.
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> Rubin
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> On Thu, 2009-11-19 at 12:52 -0500, Bradley Holt wrote:
> > Hey now, let's all be nice :-)
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> > I think it's OK to be critical (constructively) but let's try and be
> > welcoming new members of the list.
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> > On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Craig Bailey <randomp...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > "Young and eager" = someone they can underpay. ;)
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propDave
Nov 20, 2009, 4:45:49 PM11/20/09
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Apparently my post yesterday didn't post.
In any case. I know its part of the fun here, and you all know this,
but Ron - you are absolutely correct. I hope my boss doesn't fire me.
By young, I mean to say that we're looking for someone young in their
career as a programmer, and age is not a discriminating factor.
An entry level to mid level position to pay in the mid 30s to mid 40s
depending on experience and the basic criteria. I know there are
former employees in your group, who may or may not agree, but I try to
pay as much as I can. We provide the best benefits we can. We barbecue
often and when it snows, we ride.
That's the story. If you have more helpful feedback, I'm here.
dave gibson
overhead
propellermediaworks.com
On Nov 19, 4:30 pm, Steve McIntyre <mcintyre...@gmail.com> wrote:
> How about Old and Eager?
>
> ;)
>
In any case. I know its part of the fun here, and you all know this,
but Ron - you are absolutely correct. I hope my boss doesn't fire me.
By young, I mean to say that we're looking for someone young in their
career as a programmer, and age is not a discriminating factor.
An entry level to mid level position to pay in the mid 30s to mid 40s
depending on experience and the basic criteria. I know there are
former employees in your group, who may or may not agree, but I try to
pay as much as I can. We provide the best benefits we can. We barbecue
often and when it snows, we ride.
That's the story. If you have more helpful feedback, I'm here.
dave gibson
overhead
propellermediaworks.com
On Nov 19, 4:30 pm, Steve McIntyre <mcintyre...@gmail.com> wrote:
> How about Old and Eager?
>
> ;)
>
> On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 1:07 PM, Rubin Bennett <rbenn...@thatitguy.com>wrote:
>
> > Seconded...
>
> > Hey, Dave! Nice to see you here! Say howdy to Katrina for me.
>
> > Rubin
>
> > On Thu, 2009-11-19 at 12:52 -0500, Bradley Holt wrote:
> > > Hey now, let's all be nice :-)
>
> > > I think it's OK to be critical (constructively) but let's try and be
> > > welcoming new members of the list.
>
> > > On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Craig Bailey <randomp...@gmail.com>
>
> > Seconded...
>
> > Hey, Dave! Nice to see you here! Say howdy to Katrina for me.
>
> > Rubin
>
> > On Thu, 2009-11-19 at 12:52 -0500, Bradley Holt wrote:
> > > Hey now, let's all be nice :-)
>
> > > I think it's OK to be critical (constructively) but let's try and be
> > > welcoming new members of the list.
>
David Walsh
Nov 20, 2009, 5:10:48 PM11/20/09
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Guys. I find in life that it's best to assume the best. Dave is not a
bigot. The post is not going to make the news. He wants a programmer with a
career path. Damn. He should not have had to write this apology email
fearing for his job because he used the wrong adjective. We are all
watching FOX news too much. Dave deserves an apology for someone jumping to
an unjust conclusion about his intensions. Lets move on. This is childish.
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bigot. The post is not going to make the news. He wants a programmer with a
career path. Damn. He should not have had to write this apology email
fearing for his job because he used the wrong adjective. We are all
watching FOX news too much. Dave deserves an apology for someone jumping to
an unjust conclusion about his intensions. Lets move on. This is childish.
David Walsh
burlington-vt-...@googlegroups.com.
propDave
Nov 19, 2009, 2:06:51 PM11/19/09
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Ron
Regardless of whether my boss happens to be me or not, you make a good
point.
In this case, I should say that I'd like to find someone "young" in
their programming career - regardless of age. We want to provide the
structure and guidance to grow someone in a more disciplined process
of web/application development.
To Craig's point. "They" (me) are not making a million bucks and have
very real financial constraints. I believe we've always paid market
rates and have been ahead of the pack when its come to benefits. I'm
not looking to hire a sr developer and pay him the rate of a jr
developer.
At Propeller, we're in the process of a fundamental shift - ground-up
restructuring of both the team, the tools, and the methods. We have a
lot of work though, and we need more resources.
Thanks
dave gibson
Overhead
Propeller Media Works
da...@propelled.com
linkedin.com/in/propdave
twitter.com/propdave
On Nov 19, 11:49 am, Ron Moorby <ronmoo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> propDave, you've just exposed your employer to a legal suit. I don't think
> Propeller Media Works will appreciate that. It is against the law to
> discriminate by age which you are doing when you write "we're looking for
> someone who might be young..." I'll spare you the rational behind the law.
>
Regardless of whether my boss happens to be me or not, you make a good
point.
In this case, I should say that I'd like to find someone "young" in
their programming career - regardless of age. We want to provide the
structure and guidance to grow someone in a more disciplined process
of web/application development.
To Craig's point. "They" (me) are not making a million bucks and have
very real financial constraints. I believe we've always paid market
rates and have been ahead of the pack when its come to benefits. I'm
not looking to hire a sr developer and pay him the rate of a jr
developer.
At Propeller, we're in the process of a fundamental shift - ground-up
restructuring of both the team, the tools, and the methods. We have a
lot of work though, and we need more resources.
Thanks
dave gibson
Overhead
Propeller Media Works
da...@propelled.com
linkedin.com/in/propdave
twitter.com/propdave
On Nov 19, 11:49 am, Ron Moorby <ronmoo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> propDave, you've just exposed your employer to a legal suit. I don't think
> Propeller Media Works will appreciate that. It is against the law to
> discriminate by age which you are doing when you write "we're looking for
> someone who might be young..." I'll spare you the rational behind the law.
>
> On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 8:43 PM, propDave <propellerd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hey, we're looking for someone who might be young and eager to build a
> > career in standards based php development. Proper disciplined methods
> > for software development.
>
> >http://www.facebook.com/notes/propeller-media-works/job-opening-jrmid...
> > Hey, we're looking for someone who might be young and eager to build a
> > career in standards based php development. Proper disciplined methods
> > for software development.
>
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