[Test Microsoft Sidewinder Force Feedback 2 Windows
Stephanie Dejoode
All felt through the stick along with both sound and visual cues. There is some varying rumble from the runway surface as well, so you can feel the aircraft either wanting to fly or planting itself more firmly onto the deck.
I have a force feedback 2 and it worked fine with windows 10 for a while except with the motor working. Now I am experiencing flight control system malfunctions. Very glitchy. Throttle, rudder mostly. I have no software for the controller. I had to name it and map it for MSFS 2020. Any ideas?
Several players who use Saitek Cyborg Evo Force joystick reported serious problems with their devices, including drivers crash when attempting to launch the game. We bought this model to check this issue and found out that 64-bit drivers may install and/or function incorrectly, they could crash even in the Windows control panel when attempting the FFB test. We contacted Saitek and asked them to investigate the issue and they suggested us to use the following instruction. This way the drivers installed fine and joystick functions in the game.
Excellent ffb support from both parties. Actually ffb is a big part of flying Il2 for me. I'd love to see more attention paid to ffb devices. It adds a whole new dimension, and to be honest, it also adds something of an advantage in dogfighting as you can feel stall onset better.
Welcome to the Saitek Community! We understand you need assistance with your Cyborg Evo Force. The Windows 8.1 driver is the newest driver we have available. it should work for what you need, but we cannot guarantee it. We would have the windows 10 driver, but Microsoft has not released any for Windows 10 yet for us to get ahold of. The plugins available are to help external devices to interact with the games/functions in the games. If you need additional assistance, please feel free to reply back and we will be happy to help!
problem causes force feedback driver from saitek (Saitek Cyborg Evo force (USB) 6.0.4.1). If I delete saitek drivers and leave microsoft drivers or just saitek driver for joystick (not ffb) then it works, but without force feedback. Also if I try calibrate saitek cyborg in control panel and test ffb, program fails.
Kudos to the devs for posting a temp fix. BOOO at Saitek for not releasing updated drivers for the stick. I just picked one up brand new for $30. Using win8 driver installation software I actually got to see that the FFB on this stick is fully functional as it tried to shake itself off my stick platform. But, going to that same testing page through "usb game controllers" in control panel it just crashes as soon as I hit a button with "Test Force Feedback" checked. All it does is centering force.. not working in sims I've played. But.. again.. the driver installer software allows me to run the test program so I feel like..yes..this thing could actually work in windows 10 if saitek would figure out what is causing it to crash and provided a driver update. But seeing how they dont sell these anymore.. I'm not getting my hopes up.
Had a win7 pro 64-bit sitting around on cd.. created a partition and now have dualboot win10/win7. Reinstalled IL-2 BoS in win7 and stick works fine. Wish saitek would own up and release a driver update for win10 for the people who still have these.. but..if you have access to an older version of windows.. this works. A bit impractical if you aren't already using a dual boot setup or don't have a copy of win7 laying around.
Again kudos to the devs.. anybody interested in getting theirs working should prob contact saitek just to show interest in an updated driver.. and on top of that I'd probably send an email to Logitech asking to start taking over driver support for saitek products including the Evo Force, as honestly.. logitech software has always worked fine for me unlike my experience with many saitek products.
I found that the problem with IL-2 BoS is the fact it is purely 64-bits. Games that still work with Cyborg Evo are using SAI2FFB5.DLL that is a 32-bits DLL, these games are 32-bits indeed. Games that are 64-bits call FFB using SAIQFFB5.DLL, a 64-bits DLL, and there is the problem for CTD. I'm trying to work around with vJoy and UCR, but couldn't find a way to remap FFB effects received from vJoy to Cyborg EVO Force yet.
Guess what, installed BoS yesterday and tried for 7 hours to get this simulation to run, but no joy (( Today I find that because I use Saitek Cyborg Evo FF stick it is causing BoS to crash. Can't fly BoS. What a shame ((
My Saitek Cyborg Evo FF stick works fine with DCS and CloD, so why this problem with BoS? The publicised solution, above, appears not to work. I am not flying without FF and have a stock of Saitek Cyborg Evo FF sticks in the cupboard to see me through the next 10 years or so.
Please do not give up on BOS, BOK or hopefully Pacific just yet. As the person who introduced me to CLOD, I would certainly enjoy the opportunity of winging up with you in BOS. I'm sure a solution is round the corner.
Thank you for your kind words. I have sent you a PM. I was very much looking forward to coming back to BoX, but hay-ho things might change and a solution for FF might turn up. Who knows, perhaps a company will start developing a new model FF stick for sale with more up-to-date technology.
Talisman, I know this is probably not what you want to hear but I had a Cyborg Evo FF for years and I really like force feedback. Then I got myself a Microsoft FFB 2 and the difference was night and day.
Thanks Arthur, but I am very attached to my Saitek FF. I am happy with the FF and the Saitek has more additional control features on the stick, which is what I am used to. When it is set up well, I think the Saitek cyborg evo FF stick is great, good value for the money and they seem more freely available 2nd hand; perhaps because a lot of people don't seem to find them easy to set up and get on with. I just wish someone would manufacture a new model off FF joystick. Shame the Logitech FF was not so much of a success and I don't want to spend money on a stick only to have to carry out a modification to it.
I decided to take you advice and go for it. I have ordered Microsoft FF stick on ebay today. Any tips you may have on unboxing and set up would be greatly appreciated. Is the disc needed? Will I need to get latest drives from somewhere, or will my PC automatically detect what is needed and point me in the right direction?
Are you saying you bought a stick you do not want? Im back near Bicester for xmas if a good stick but not FF back that you wanted. How much mate? Happy to help and buy off you if it keeps you with BOS. I use 3D Pro so if the stick is good happy to get without ForceFeedBack. PM me mate.
OK, no joy with Saitek cyborg evo FF joystick and drivers, but luckily for me a friend has given me a Microsoft FF2 joystick, so missions will launch for me now and I have the game up and running. However, game still crashes to desktop a lot when in the settings menu, particularly when trying to assign or adjust axis settings; very frustrating. On the bright side, the flying is great and I love the Kuban map on MP servers
I use a MS FFB2 and in my opinion the range of force is better managed in CloD. The FF effects in BoS saturate forces too fast. In Clod, I really appreciate the very soft forces at low speed and really hard at high speed.
Me again, I've been extremly patient waiting for an answer or even a hint of somewhere to look for such settings, but no such luck. I can accept that this is the way it will be most likely, but I don't believe that there is no solution to adjusting FF level in ARMA. Therefore any help or direction where to start looking would be much appreciated by me for one
I know a few guys with the same stick that have very low levels of force-feedback. It is absolutely game specific..ie it works perfectly from a strength point of view in almost all other FF games I know of.
My joystick works fine, the forcefeedback rocks in other games, its what makes flying feel realistic. The choppers don't vibrate very much and the return to centre tension is next to nothing in ARMA. There has to be a way.
I also don't feel enough force in the joystick while piloting planes and choppers in Armed Assault, ie, while doing normal and extreme maneuvers i don't have the right feeling.. as if the chopper/plane was not feeling any "G's"
I also have a Sidewinder FF2. Great joystick, but my rudder stopped working and I've replaced it with the crappy Logitech Force 3D Pro. You'd have thought the top of the range joystick from Logitech would be good
I did adjust it in windows and created a Armed Assault file for its force feedback, i put all to max.. in windows i feel all force feedback very good and strong.. more then i want for sure.. but in arma as if they dont even exist.
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