Just Flight Vc10

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Havingsaid (typed) that, I'm wondering if any of the regulars (yes you, CHOCK) have managed to get the V4 model running in V5 ? In my case, it simply pushed P3D into La La Land and I end up having to CTL+ALT+Delete my way back to the desktop. It's such a shame, this aircraft would do nicely in V5 (opinion).

I got the Just Flight version and had pretty low expectations going in, but was pleasantly surprised. I just changed the install path (no registry changes) and it installed and works fine in 5.2. (Unlike the Aerosoft one, by the way, which I guess requires a registry hack that I'd almost certainly hose up.) It's pretty casual, as you'd expect, but the sound, graphics and animations are decent--especially the sound. I got both the older and later models and am happy with the purchase. There was a big four-engine-shaped hole in my P3D collection.

Bunkie. Yes it does work in 5.2 I have the JF VC10 installed and working in P3DV5.2. I do not have the professional version. The model seems to work fine but there is an issue with the cockpit lighting switches still having the old FSX bug of no lights in day (FSL Spotlights will fix that issue when I get around to it). Used it a bit in FSX but it was very heavy on the CPU and a frame hog and killed the sim, so I have to confess apart from a quick test flight to see if it worked ok in P3DV5 I have not done much with it since. Another one of those aeroplanes that I do not seem to find time for at the moment. As far as I can tell all the animations and switches work and maybe I should get back to it - it was a wonderful aeroplane, complex to operate and quirky in the cockpit but otherwise the fastest jet liner ever built with good hot and high capacity and long legs.

I've got both the original model and the "Professional" - and it's the Pro variant that I had installed and resulted in the crashes. I never thought of trying the older model - thanks, I'm off to do that right away.

I installed the original VC-10 "Jetliner" instead of the latest "Pro" edition; it loads, P3D opens, and the aircraft model flies perfectly. But... if you fly inside a cloud the fuselage becomes transparent in external views! All is good from inside the cockpit though. Once you're out of the cloud, the fuselage looks normal. It's the same sort of effect that used to happen if the copy protection wasn't working properly... so just stay inside the "office" and don't look at the pretty pictures and all is well ?

Great Bunkie, yes seemed to work fine for me too! Interesting that the textures do that in cloud. I know a lot of effort went into the VC10 when it was done for FSX another one of those great models that surely does not need too much effort to bring the Professional version into P3DV5. Then again the VC10 probably only had niche appeal anyway. Another very good aeroplane that could not compete against the dominance of the 707 and DC8 and they were fuel hogs! Still hold the record for achieving M 0.92 in the cruise. Passengers really like them they were quiet and comfortable, the RAF operated them for decades, some nice videos on the tube from the cockpit of RAF ops here and there too! Might spend some time over the next few days seeing if we can get FSL Spotlights to work its magic on the lighting issue! I' ll post the ini for it when its done!

I remember being a young lad, and a proud member of BOAC's "Junior Jet Club" - and being invited to come sit in the cockpit of the 707 in mid Atlantic. The pilot pointed out a VC-10 that left after we did - passing us high and wide, and at a rate that made it seem like we were sitting still. The VC-10 became my favorite aeroplane that day... from everything I've read, there "could" have been a market for them, but BOAC basically killed them by demanding the Super - which took a niche market to an entirely new level.

I would love to take the VC10 over to v5 when I move over eventually, sadly I've had bugs in the electrical system of the aircraft since it was released in v4 which rather kills the immersion. I did make JF Support aware and they supposedly notified the developer, but (I reckon partly down to the developer being external) I've heard nothing since then, an offical v5 port seems equally remote for the time being.

Well this was unexpected. JF released their VC-10 for FSX/P3D several years ago (IIRC), and it looks like it's being ported to XP. The P3D version had the VC-10 Standard, Super, and RAF variants so I'm assuming the XP version will have these as well.

Yes. It is unexpected also for me as part of the test team at JF ? I love the Vickers VC-10 Professional from Just Flight. And I am using it regularly in P3D. And I was amount the test team for this P3D version back then. But until now I have not even heard that it is on the list for X-Plane. I'm really surprise. Very positive surprised.

This is excellent news, the VC-10 was a true classic. My first flight in May'67 was on a VC10 (I was only 3 months old so don't expect me to remember it!) and as a kid I flew on every aircraft that BOAC/then BA operated (some of which I do remember). Blasting out of Entebbe over the lake in X-Plane will be something to look forward to.

At this early stage are you able to advise please on policy regarding availability of datarefs and commands in the XP11 model? I am in the process of completing full external panel setups for Air Manager for the 737-200 and 727. FJS did a good job in making 99% of the data accessible needed for external cockpit building, but being able to do the same for the VC10 would just beat that hands down?

What types of navigation are going to be offered with the VC10? I assume VOR is a given, but will it have support for the INS add on (or have it built in), or a GPS system? I've always found the VOR flights to be fun, and engaging, but I'm still curious as to the features being offered.

Unfortunately that link has disappeared. I really wish just flight wouldn't spread themselves out so thin. Any updates or is the removed link the implicit answer to my question? In the mood for a classic. Anyone know of a good BAC 1-11 on the way or HS trident?

Thanks for sharing. With Michael Wilson unfortunately no longer with us, I wonder what the future landscape of xplane classics looks like. I have the FJS offerings but still find them quite 'modern'. The 727 is still a capable bird.

For tens of thousands of people, either serving in or connected to the British military, it more often than not provided them with their first experience of flying - albeit sitting backwards (the safest way for passengers to actually fly in event of a crash).

Somewhat surprising given the fact that the aircraft still holds the record for the fastest subsonic trans-Atlantic crossing, flying from New York's JFK to Glasgow's Prestwick in 5 hours and 1 minute.

A tale recounted by the pilot Gwyn Mullett in his autobiography: "When I checked in with operations at JFK the flight time shown on the plan was about five and a quarter hours which was pretty quick so I asked what the record was for the route and they said that it was held by a 707 at five hours and eight minutes."

"My tail was up and so I put a little bit of extra fuel on the told the people we were out to beat that time.Little did I know that they informed the control tower and so just after take-off we were told to ignore any speed restraints"

"Super VC-10 G-ASGC hurtled across the North Atlantic at a speed that was just below the maximum the aircraft allowed. The Flight Engineer was in his element and spent the night fine-tuning the engines."

"The Chief Steward came onto the flight deck and announced that the dinner service was complete and that the passengers were now all bedded down for the night. "I am sorry to spoil your rest break but we will be landing in just over two hours" I said.

"What are we flying? A bloody Concorde or something! I will have to wake them up for a full English breakfast in one hour," he replied."Scrub the breakfast and give them champagne for landing" was my reply."

For the RAF however it proved an incredible workhorse, initially flying regular long-haul routes between the likes of the UK and the Far East. At their peak in the early 1970s the aircraft were transporting 10,000 serving personnel, their families and VIPs, including The Queen, every month.

Proving a huge success it was a role that lasted until September 2013 and saw the plane operate in a number of conflicts, including the Falklands War and the First and Second Gulf Wars, servicing a plethora of RAF and NATO aircraft types.

The VC10's safety record did not remain unblemished, however for all the hours flown just two crashes claimed lives. The RAF's only loss of a VC10 occurred at Brize Norton in 1997, when during defuelling a stationary aircraft tipped up on its tail leaving the airframe damaged beyond repair.

In 2013 the skies above RAF Brize Norton, the VC10's home for 47 years, roared for the last time with the distinctive sound of four Rolls-Royce Conway engines. The last aircraft taxi-ing to a final standstill at Bruntingthorpe, a former RAF airbase turned private aerodrome and aviation museum.

Perhaps the final word on the VC10's incredible service history should go to the Captain of that final flight, Flight Lieutenant Paul Smith who said: "I was 24 years old as a fresh faced Flying Officer when I first walked up the steps of a VC10 and I'll be 52 in February so you can guess what it means to me, a bit of a bereavement."

Boeing 787 has the "See also" as the main heading for the section, and does not use the template, as the airlistboxTemplate:Aviation lists is still a part of it. Do we want to use the template if do the split? I like it because it gives some order to what can became a fairly haphazard section. I don't like the current MOS postion of the "See also" being above the References, as a long reference section puts far too much space between the internal and external links and navboxes. For this reason, I'd rather stick with what we have, and because 3000-4000 articles is a LOT to have to change. - BillCJ (talk) 03:16, 28 December 2007 (UTC)

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