History of the Colt Elliason Sight

[Roe_...@oxy.com]

Question for the group:

 

Anybody know any of the history behind the Colt Elliason sight?

 

Who was Elliason, an engineer at Colt, independent inventor, etc? 

 

Did he invent the Accro first, then improve it? 

 

Just curious. 

 

It appears that KenSight and Champion both sell replacements

for the Elliason, and I heard somewhere that Millet also sells one. 

Anybody have any experience with these?

 

Thanks in advance,

--Roe Hicks,  Haysville KS

 

[Ted Drott]

On Thu, Jan 26, 2012 at 8:50 AM, <Roe_...@oxy.com> wrote:

>>>It appears that KenSight and Champion both sell replacements

for the Elliason, and I heard somewhere that Millet also sells one. 

Anybody have any experience with these?  Roe Hicks,  Haysville KS<<<<

 

I had three Elliason's come apart on a Colt Series 70 Gold Cup that I purchased in 1973, about 30,000 rounds.   Replaced the last one with a Millet, no more problems.  I think that Millet is out of business now.

 

Ted, Lake Charles, LA

 

 

 

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[D.Zawicki]

Designed by Geo Elliason, pistol smith and competitive shooter and sold by HEG corp. ½ inch click at 50 yards on M-1911. The price in 1960 was $19.50.

 

Dave Zawicki

 

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Question for the group:

[Roe_...@oxy.com]

Thought some might be interested in what I found out about the history of the Elliason sight.

George Elliason was an outstanding pistolsmith, specializing in Bullseye target pistols.

I have found his sight OK, the cross pin holding the forward portion
in the slide needs to be a solid pin. Some pistols come with roll pins that vibrate out. They can be slightly bent,
or staked in, but most people replace them with a solid pin. On my Gold Cup, the elevation détente pin started
working its way up. A drop of blue loctite kept it down. Didn't freeze it, just made it gummy enough to stay down.

A patent of his: http://www.freepatentsonline.com/3495339.pdf

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=george%20elliason&source=web&cd=28&ved=0CEcQFjAHOBQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fforums.1911forum.com%2Fshowthread.php%3Ft%3D159302&ei=lpkhT-mcCYeBsgK6ssyNCQ&usg=AFQjCNGOindwCsn5ErEcIjysN-acY4br2w Can't open this at work. Synopsis says he moved to TX to work on a Colt Series 70 project, and someone bought out his shop.

He is mentioned in an "American Handgunner" magazine article: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m0BTT/is_5_34/ai_n58321198/

One note mentioned that he was from Detroit MI, and built accurized 1911's.

He is mentioned in Al Marvel's bio: http://www.marvelcustomguns.com/about_us.htm

His sight: Designed by Geo Elliason, pistol smith and competitive shooter and sold by HEG corp. ½ inch click at 50 yards on M-1911. The price in 1960 was $19.50.

What I knew to start:
1. You can get a KenSight replacement. Also CHAMPION and MILLET.

2. The Elliason and Accro are interchangeable.

--Roe Hicks, Haysville KS

[war...@aol.com]

Old George did a good job with his sights. He later designed another sight that was much better but some one stole it and patented . You know it as BoMar. High Standard
did the same with their bridge sight. I have seen those in the white with USAMU stamped on them.

 

 

His sight:  Designed by Geo Elliason, pistol smith and competitive shooter and 
sold by HEG corp. ½ inch click at 50 yards on M-1911. The price in 1960 was 
$19.50.

What I knew to start:
1.  You can get a KenSight replacement.  Also CHAMPION and MILLET.  

2.  The Elliason and Accro are interchangeable.

--Roe Hicks, Haysville KS

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[David Daniels]

In one article about John Giles, Odessa, FL, it was stated that the man behind Bo-Mar (whose name escapes me) was a customer of Giles, saw HIS sight and patented it.  Giles thereafter refused to work on any gun with a Bo-Mar sight on it.

dd

[war...@aol.com]

My late armorer ( AMU original ) said about the sight that if old George could have caught him he would taught him a lesson that he would not forget. Remember this was a time when men were men and did not use lawyers to settle disputes.

[Doug Hall]

Patents can be awarded but also revoked if someone can prove prior art. If the patent is a complete knock off and one can show they sold a product that was the same design as in the patent that came later, one can ignore the patent because they would never win the case and if challenged the patent holder would lose their patent. Copying a non-patented product is fair game.

 

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My late armorer ( AMU original ) said about the sight that if old George could have caught him he would taught him a lesson that he would not forget. Remember this was a time when men were men and did not use lawyers to settle disputes.

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In one article about John Giles, Odessa, FL, it was stated that the man behind Bo-Mar (whose name escapes me) was a customer of Giles, saw HIS sight and patented it.  Giles thereafter refused to work on any gun with a Bo-Mar sight on it.

 

dd

On Jan 30, 2012, at 9:07 PM, war...@aol.com wrote:

Old George did a good job with his sights. He later designed another sight that was much better but some one stole it and patented . You know it as BoMar. High Standard
did the same with their bridge sight. I have seen those in the white with USAMU stamped on them.

 

 

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