Reference: A World That Works for All
Reference: Strategic Analytic Model for Creating a Prosperous World at Peace
To be absolutely clear on Jane McGonnical: brilliant, a thought leader, she needs to do a better job of connecting with Medard, who is deliberately not reaching out to her because we old guys understand that the young must WANT to hear from us, if she connects to Medard, and via Medard they connect to "true cost" economics as pioneered by Herman Daly (Ecologicial Economics, etc), then it is "game over" as we say, and the people win.Serious Games are a mess because everyone is building their own game for their one problem. The AHA that Medard knows better than anyone is that everything is connected and you cannot "game" the Earth unless you do so in a Whole Systems model. Here are three top-level links that help there.
To be absolutely clear on Jane McGonnical: brilliant, a thought leader, she needs to do a better job of connecting with Medard, who is deliberately not reaching out to her because we old guys understand that the young must WANT to hear from us, if she connects to Medard, and via Medard they connect to "true cost" economics as pioneered by Herman Daly (Ecologicial Economics, etc), then it is "game over" as we say, and the people win.
Incidentally, transparency is the new app and the center of gravity for both serious participatory gaming, global to local giving, and the eradication of corruption. I have very high hopes, but right now the separation between Jane McGonical and Medard Gabel, and the nature of this specific wonderful exhilarating groups, is illustrative of the "tower of Babel" nature of our explorations.
I'll say it again: P2P Foundation Wiki, and a master roadmap that is a living document. I also believe that crowd-sourcing is ready to go to a billion dollars a year for a properly integrated, transparent concept for achieving self-governing panarchy on all issues at all levels, but I am not the right person to lead such a fund-raising endeavor, only to support it.
Try the photo on this site:
http://www.curtisfaith.com/about-curtis/
That's my "business face" site so the bio doesn't describe my passions very well. Another example of the bigger problem really.
This one better reflects me:
http://www.azimuthproject.org/azimuth/show/Curtis+Faith
If you need a different photo let me know and I'll try to dig one up.
Peace,
Curtis
Curtis,
Welcome to the list.
On 04/26/2011 02:07 PM, Curtis Faith wrote:
> Wow Robert, thanks for all the excellent links. I've got my day's
> reading determined already.
>
>> Serious Games are a mess because everyone is building their own
>> game for their one problem. The AHA that Medard knows better
>> than anyone is that everything is connected and you cannot "game"
>> the Earth unless you do so in a Whole Systems model. Here are
>> three top-level links that help there.
>
> Yes, that is the key insight. That We is singular.
Couldn't agree more. I like to phrase it as singular humanity versus
plural humans.
>
> This is essentially a really huge and interesting design problem.
> I have a really strong intuition that designing what we should have
> is much easier than designing the pieces for fitting into this
> corrupt and horribly inefficient current system.
Agreed. One quote that's gotten pulled onto the list a few time is the
Buckminster Fuller line on the front page of the p2p foundation
website. "You never change things by fighting the existing reality. To
change something, build a new model that makes the existing model
obsolete." True as ever.
>
> One of the things that is really important is showing how global
> warming and energy usage results from tremendous inefficiencies in
> our systems. Simple things like traffic which come from people
> living in the wrong places and not working together. Some very
> interesting ideas in this space I saw on Don Roble's site, got me
> thinking about how to connect some people I know to start building
> the Whole Systems model. More below on this...
Interesting. Link?
>
>> To be absolutely clear on Jane McGonnical: brilliant, a thought
>> leader, she needs to do a better job of connecting with Medard,
>> who is deliberately not reaching out to her because we old guys
>> understand that the young must WANT to hear from us, if she
>> connects to Medard, and via Medard they connect to "true cost"
>> economics as pioneered by Herman Daly (Ecologicial Economics,
>> etc), then it is "game over" as we say, and the people win.
>
> Thanks for the insight. We have a lot to learn together, the young
> and old.
We are all so very young, in the scope of things. Even civilization
seems young, when you think about it on the right timescale. That
being said, some are younger than others. I admit to being among them.
>
>> Incidentally, transparency is the new app and the center of
>> gravity for both serious participatory gaming, global to local
>> giving, and the eradication of corruption. I have very high
>> hopes, but right now the separation between Jane McGonical and
>> Medard Gabel, and the nature of this specific wonderful
>> exhilarating groups, is illustrative of the "tower of Babel"
>> nature of our explorations.
>
> Transparency is hugely important. It is the sine qua non of deep
> trust. Without trust We is nothing.
Transparency is important, and so is unity. How do we get these folks
in conversation with one another, and how do we ourself become a part
of that conversation?
>
>> I'll say it again: P2P Foundation Wiki, and a master roadmap
>> that is a living document. I also believe that crowd-sourcing is
>> ready to go to a billion dollars a year for a properly
>> integrated, transparent concept for achieving self-governing
>> panarchy on all issues at all levels, but I am not the right
>> person to lead such a fund-raising endeavor, only to support it.
>
Robert, just submitted a kickstart application last night, and I'd
like to see where it goes. If it is approved, I'll ask for input from
the list before going public with it. I don't know if we should ask
for a billion, but I do think we could crowdsource enough capital to
get the ball rolling.
> I'm happy to jump in here if that's the best place for my skills.
>
> There is a lot of very interesting ideas floating around. I'm
> trying to hook people up who don't know about how they might help
> each other, yet.
>
> For instance, John Baez is a mathematical physicist who you know
> if you follow math or science since he started blogging before
> there even were blogs, publishing an email "This Weeks Finds" and
> web site with archives that explored and educated general science
> and math geeks since the mid-90s. Last year, John stopped his work
> on physics and math and decided to work on helping save the world.
> He launched the Azimuth Project (see:
> http://www.azimuthproject.org/) which is "an international
> collaboration to create a focal point for scientists and engineers
> interested in saving the planet. Our goal is to make clearly
> presented, accurate information on the relevant issues easy to
> find, and to help people work together on our common problems."
>
AWESOME LINK. Thanks.
> To understand John's motivations, check out his announcement for
> the new change in his life's direction:
>
> http://math.ucr.edu/home/baez/week301.html
>
> John is looking for ways he and the people working on the project
> can help "save the world." Recently, he posted that he's not
> satisfied with progress yet, he thinks there is something missing.
> What I see missing is the connection to other like minded groups
> around the world. They are collaborating within the group, but not
> within the context of the rest of people trying to save the world.
>
> So, after seeing Don Roble's Ingenesist site and especially the
> video Social Capitalism; The Value Game
> (http://www.ingenesist.com/general-info/social-capitalism-the-value-game.html),
>
>
it struck me that one thing that John would be really good at, is
> advancing the theory for optimization of shared global resources.
> This seems to fit into a lot of his current work.
>
> If we knew better, for example, how much carbon comes from
> particular sub-optimal resource usage (like empty planes flying,
> or empty vacation homes, or cars that stay parked, etc.). If we
> could build maps and networks of the global system with a sound
> basis in science and math, then we can better direct our efforts in
> the fight against global warming and other environmental
> destruction. I think we also will find that we'll have a lot more
> fun in the process.
This links back, I think, to what was being referred to here as 'true
cost'. In my mind, this also links to ubiquitous sensing, so that we
do know what is going on. It's not just a matter of better models, but
also of better data capture.
>
> This is just one example where I hope to help introduce people to
> each other that might be able to collaborate on something really
> cool that will have global impact. I suspect that after John
> starts working with a few other people, he will find even more
> interesting problems where he can pitch in to help save the world.
>
> If we all leverage our personal relationships better (and make
> them visible to each other more transparently), we will find that
> all of our individual passions progress faster and with less
> stress. John Baez needs better tools to do this. We need better
> tools to do this.
One such tool is what I'm particularly passionate about. A free
peer-to-peer physical network layer that is co-owned by the whole of
humanity. I view this aspect as a central support mechanism for other
endeavours.
>
> Let's build them.
Let's.
>
> Peace,
>
> Curtis
>
Take Care,
Isaac Wilder
Free Network Movement
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Try the videos here:
http://www.ingenesist.com/introduction
All of them are interesting but the one entitled: The Value Game is the one most relevant to the above.
>> Transparency is hugely important. It is the sine qua non of deep
>> trust. Without trust We is nothing.
> Transparency is important, and so is unity. How do we get these folks
> in conversation with one another, and how do we ourself become a part
> of that conversation?
We need to move from Google Groups to human groups interacting in the real world. Connect is going to be part of that. Perhaps something much smaller even sooner might be a good idea?
>>
>>> I'll say it again: P2P Foundation Wiki, and a master roadmap
>>> that is a living document. I also believe that crowd-sourcing is
>>> ready to go to a billion dollars a year for a properly
>>> integrated, transparent concept for achieving self-governing
>>> panarchy on all issues at all levels, but I am not the right
>>> person to lead such a fund-raising endeavor, only to support it.
>>
> Robert, just submitted a kickstart application last night, and I'd
> like to see where it goes. If it is approved, I'll ask for input from
> the list before going public with it. I don't know if we should ask
> for a billion, but I do think we could crowdsource enough capital to
> get the ball rolling.
Good luck.
>> If we knew better, for example, how much carbon comes from
>> particular sub-optimal resource usage (like empty planes flying,
>> or empty vacation homes, or cars that stay parked, etc.). If we
>> could build maps and networks of the global system with a sound
>> basis in science and math, then we can better direct our efforts in
>> the fight against global warming and other environmental
>> destruction. I think we also will find that we'll have a lot more
>> fun in the process.
> This links back, I think, to what was being referred to here as 'true
> cost'. In my mind, this also links to ubiquitous sensing, so that we
> do know what is going on. It's not just a matter of better models, but
> also of better data capture.
Yes, these are all related issues and important ones for wiring up the Global Brain.
>> This is just one example where I hope to help introduce people to
>> each other that might be able to collaborate on something really
>> cool that will have global impact. I suspect that after John
>> starts working with a few other people, he will find even more
>> interesting problems where he can pitch in to help save the world.
>>
>> If we all leverage our personal relationships better (and make
>> them visible to each other more transparently), we will find that
>> all of our individual passions progress faster and with less
>> stress. John Baez needs better tools to do this. We need better
>> tools to do this.
> One such tool is what I'm particularly passionate about. A free
> peer-to-peer physical network layer that is co-owned by the whole of
> humanity. I view this aspect as a central support mechanism for other
> endeavours.
This is an important part of the infrastructure. I think I listed it as 1) on my project summary at the beginning of this thread.
>>
>> Let's build them.
> Let's.
So is there a central place where those who want to help have signed up? How do we find out more about the various interested people?
Peace,
Curtis
Robert, just submitted a kickstart application last night, and I'd
like to see where it goes. If it is approved, I'll ask for input from
the list before going public with it. I don't know if we should ask
for a billion, but I do think we could crowdsource enough capital to
get the ball rolling.
On 04/26/2011 03:20 PM, Curtis Faith wrote:
>>> Some very interesting ideas in this space I saw on Don Roble's
>>> site, got me thinking about how to connect some people I know
>>> to start building the Whole Systems model. More below on
>>> this...
>> Interesting. Link?
>
> Try the videos here:
>
> http://www.ingenesist.com/introduction
>
> All of them are interesting but the one entitled: The Value Game is
> the one most relevant to the above.
>
Thanks.
>>> Transparency is hugely important. It is the sine qua non of
>>> deep trust. Without trust We is nothing.
>> Transparency is important, and so is unity. How do we get these
>> folks in conversation with one another, and how do we ourself
>> become a part of that conversation?
>
> We need to move from Google Groups to human groups interacting in
> the real world. Connect is going to be part of that. Perhaps
> something much smaller even sooner might be a good idea?
>
Very much agreed. The world moves much too fast for us to wait on
this. My plans are still up in the air. But by mid-June I'll either be
in Austin, TX, to get hacking with Charles Wyble, or I'll be on the
FLOfarm in Pennsylvania. Either way, my plan is to get in the same
room with you people as quickly as I possibly can.
Well, there's a list of participants in the conference that's up on
the p2p foundation site, but as far as a comprehensive list of people
that are involved, I haven't seen one. One of the things we've been
talking about is a custom tool for collaboration and discussion, and I
think that a directory of world-changers would be an integral part of
any such system. Then again, I don't think we've got time to wait for
it. There's also a list of key stakeholder organizations here:
http://p2pfoundation.net/Category:P2P_Infrastructure#Key_Organisations_.2F_Stakeholders
, but I'm not sure that's exactly what you're talking about.
>
> Peace,
>
> Curtis
>
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Venessa Miemis wrote:
> you get docked close to 10% of earnings
Yowza, that is 100 Million! That is surely
more than it really costs...
Maybe we should ask for just enough to create
an alternative to kickstarter (+ 10%), and then
use that to ask for the remainder?
When the Users are real owners (not just
members of a co-op), then they pre-pay all the
costs of production, but cannot pay profit - for
who would they pay it to?
"Akvo makes it easy to bring development aid projects online. Use our open web and mobile tools to connect and share progress with funders and followers." Open source code here.
Catarse is an open source 'clone' of Kickstarter. You can access the code here.
"BEEx is a Free/Libre/Open (FLO) project of The Sarapis Foundation that helps people raise the resources they need to do what they want. BEEx.org is a deployment of the BEEx code provided by our foundation. Donations through BEEx.org go directly into registered organizations' Paypal accounts and we take no transaction fees"
Catarse is an open source 'clone' of Kickstarter. You can access the code here.
"BEEx is a Free/Libre/Open (FLO) project of The Sarapis Foundation that helps people raise the resources they need to do what they want. BEEx.org is a deployment of the BEEx code provided by our foundation. Donations through BEEx.org go directly into registered organizations' Paypal accounts and we take no transaction fees"
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 3:51 PM, Isaac Wilder <is...@freenetworkmovement.org> wrote:Robert, just submitted a kickstart application last night,
and I'd
like to see where it goes. If it is approved, I'll ask for input from
the list before going public with it. I don't know if we should ask
for a billion, but I do think we could crowdsource enough capital to
get the ball rolling.
just in case you didn't know, you get docked close to 10% of earnings after kickstarter and amazon payments take their cut.
I didn't do any recording, though that is definitely something that
will need to happen. It might have been premature, but I wanted to get
the ball rolling.
In any case, I've been convinced that kickstarter is not the right
platform.
Welcome to the list. Thank you for such a great first post. :) Comments
inline....
> First, I am very pleasantly surprised at the amount of really good
> thinking and work that is going on in the space surrounding the
> projects and issues that brings everyone here.
Yep. It's been a pretty useful list, and allowed me to get a good
sense of the community. Been great to connect with folks directly
and get things moving forward.
> I have been very
> impressed with those I have found in just a few weeks of following the
> various Twitter meshes. I go by "inflector" on Twitter.
Twitter is a great way to find folks. Just watch @ streams of a few
people and you can uncover high quality contacts/relationships
fast. Immensely useful tool.
>
>
> Flemming had me follow Venessa Miemis, Seb Paquet and a few others. I
> branched out and found the work of Robert Steele, John Robb and then
> Venessa pointed me to this list. I have been reading non-stop for
> about a week. People's blog posts, watching videos, following Twitter
> links.
Excellent. You should post a list of all the resources that you
consumed. Serve as an
intro for others.
> I believe I now have a pretty good sense of the picture at 15,000
> meters.
Good stuff. It's useful to have an overview. When I started all my data
ownership/mesh/digtial economy work
a few years ago (2007) I just knew some of the different pieces and what
I wanted to personally do. It's great
to see others catching up and coming in with new perspectives etc.
> In 2000, I was CEO and part of the small startup team for an Austin,
> TX startup called OneCard which was building a loyalty card system for
> retailers where the data and control would be in the hands of the
> users. Thought a lot about the issues of privacy and data ownership
> and how to keep companies form selling that data for marketing.
Very cool. What is the status of OneCard today?
> After that I was CEO and VP of Marketing for a small startup called
> ScoutFire which was working on semantically categorizing the web and
> using that to help people find other places they might like to go. So
> I have done some thinking here as well.
Semantic stuff is good. I worked at a semantic tech startup as well.
> I try to keep reasonably fresh with new technologies. I worked on some
> major features for the Vienna Open Source RSS reader last year to
> learn Cocoa and Objective C, made a compiler using LLVM in C++, and
> did a bit of iPhone programming, but there are many better programmers
> than me. That's not my greatest strength.
Nice! Good to see someone who knows what LLVM is. :)
> What I really like to do most of all is work with awesome people doing
> something that most everyone else thinks is impossible. And help teams
> work together to build something that we never could have done alone.
Mmhmm.
> 1) I have a sense that many people are working on pieces.
Yes. Certain projects have emerged as category killers in various
categories.
The p2pfoundation.net wiki has a lot of data, also the FreedomBox project
wiki.
I'm in the process (over the month of May) of mind mapping out the
problem space
as I see it. I've been working on this for a few years, and have a good
grasp of it.
You can see my data ownership work at
http://wiki.knownelement.com/index.php?title=Data_Ownership
which is an attempt to capture every type of data a user creates and the
associated FLO(SS) tool that I use
to own that data.
> Is there any
> chance this could all be rolled up into a meta-project?
Well my wiki is attempting to that. I'm taking various pieces and
integrating them all together into a
cohesive whole, which I plan to ship as a set of debian packages. A
FreedomBox software stack as it
were. So I'm rolling up all the software infrastructure pieces into one
highly repeatable system for
data ownership. Have been evaluating systems, testing, using on a daily
basis etc for some time.
This is why I can say "tool xyz is the best for me". The FreeomBox wiki
has a comprehensive list
to all the tools out there, if you want an alternative to the tool I
have chosen for a particular category.
I link to them on my wiki page.
> There are good
> reasons for splitting up the pieces from a task/architectural
> perspective, obviously, but there seems like a lot of synergy in
> building together towards a larger whole that solves one really
> important problem.
Which problem is that?
Each of the various projects is rapidly progressing towards solving
their individual niches. Lots of cross
pollinating and collaboration happening. A handful of people like me
exist to drive that forward. We
read really fast, have excellent memory and sit on a bunch of lists to
cross connect.
> 2) Would any of you be interested in forming and joining a non-profit
> international coop-type organization to raise money for this meta-
> project?
Tell us more about how that would work. What kind of money would we
need? What would the budget look
like?
> Here's the kind of collaboration I'd be happy to work in:
>
> In order to foster maximum trust, everyone is completely equal.
So no board of directors? No executive management team? No middle
management?
Or everyone vote counts equally? Or...?
> Everyone works at the same pay (adjusted for local cost of living
> probably?) Everyone shares equally in the rewards. 1/3 of excess cash
> flow gets split evenly to members, 1/3 is used to bring more people
> onboard the project, 1/3 is used to build for the future.
Yes. That's a good model. One I've used in the startups that I've founded.
> No one would be "in charge" but each of us would have certain
> responsibilities that we take on subject to the agreement of the rest
> of the group. I also have some specific ideas on how this might work
> from a practical perspective, and I'm sure you all have some better
> ones.
I'm eager to see those ideas.
> I believe it would be possible to raise as much money as we need
> pretty quickly.
What money would we need?
> Some of you may have more experience as entrepreneurs,
> I have raised $20 million in the public markets and a few odd million
> in various ventures from VCs and angels in the past, so I know a bit
> about that process, the timing is right for this idea.
What makes you say the timing is right? In particular the timing
for fund raising/investment? Do you see a particular opportunity?
Has a new technology come to play? New mind sets? Macro or micro
catalysts? Usually when the timing is right (in context of funding)
something
made it a plausible opportunity. So I'm curious what you think that is?
>
> The money needs to come in as voluntary donations, either as a
> Kickstarter or IndieGoGo project, from a social venture fund, our own
> web site, or some combination of the above.
Fair assessment.
>
> The way to get this funded is to aim very high. Share the common
> vision. And have a team of people that can credibly deliver. It is
> critical that the team shares the vision and common values.
What does that team look like? What's it's makeup? What's
the desired personality profiles? Etc etc etc.
>
> People will help us if we show them why we want to build this. Why it
> is important. And what it will mean for the world. Trust them.
Been trying to do that for years. Everyone says "great. come back
when you've got something started and we'll help". So I just sat
down and built it.
I'm a man of action. An active change agent with a demonstrable track
record. I tried to get others on board. Tried to build teams etc. Didn't
work.
So I just started doing stuff. Actively participating in communities and
projects.
Blogging. Tweeting. Keeping my wiki up to date. etc. It's generated
serious buzz
for quite a while and I have my very loyal audience. They quickly
amplify what
I do. I'm the go to guy for so many different things.
>
> It is inexpensive to live here. So it would be great if some other
> people wanted to work here, but I imagine there being four or five
> different locations worldwide that might be involved initially and a
> few people scattered around in addition who work by themselves.
I live in Austin TX. Great place. Like the bay area but a lot cheaper.
We have a production mesh in town. Lots of co ops. Hackerspace.
I work for a hosting company and am very happy with my job. Deeply
fulfilling.
> Can enough of us pull together to make this happen?
Yes. We already have pulled together and are already making it happen.
VillageTelco. ServalProject. OpenBTS/OpenBSC. Bitcoin/Cyclos.
Certain pieces are missing (overall integration and security). I'm working
on making those things happen.
> What would it take for us to learn to trust each other?
Running code. Git commit history. Active contributions to projects.
I come with decent credentials ( http://blog.knownelement.com/about )
and an extensive trust network already built. I tend to trust people pretty
easily, if they are moving forward and building things.
> I see five main pieces:
>
> 1) Network transport level that replaces telco dependence and makes it
> easy/cheap to connect the unconnected world while preventing
> government shutdown.
Yep. VillageTelco/ServalProject are making huge strides in that area.
I'm also working on a
mindmap/roadmap/execution plan to go from regional networks to global
interconnected
network. Expect this in mid may.
> 2) Security and anonymity layer which works over current or future
> networks and allows people to communicate without government snooping.
Yep. Security is a joke today. I'm working on a system that will
let everyone run their own banking bits in a regulatory compliant
manner. Solving that problem makes everything else work as well.
> 3) Federated secure personal data store that respects the freedom and
> will of each individual.
Yep. My data ownership wiki has that covered.
> 4) An online collaboration system that allows people to work together
> more effectively by matching ideas and projects with available talent
> and resources so that everyone knows where they can best help, and so
> good projects get done.
> 5) An open collective intelligence system that wires the global brain
> so we can all make better decisions as we set out to make the world a
> better place.
This is said by many to be important. I wait for others to build it.
> Each of these projects is big. But we can start small and improve
> iteratively. Since they are big, I necessarily left a lot out in the
> brief descriptions. Further early versions of 3), 4), and 5) can be
> used independently of 1) and 2) until those are ready.
>
> Let me know if I am missing anything or if this idea seems wacky or if
> you think I'm crazy.
You are pretty much in line with everything else I've seen so far. :)
Flemming had me follow Venessa Miemis, Seb Paquet and a few others. Ibranched out and found the work of Robert Steele, John Robb and thenVenessa pointed me to this list. I have been reading non-stop forabout a week. People's blog posts, watching videos, following Twitterlinks.
Excellent. You should post a list of all the resources that you
consumed. Serve as an
intro for others.
In 2000, I was CEO and part of the small startup team for an Austin,TX startup called OneCard which was building a loyalty card system forretailers where the data and control would be in the hands of theusers. Thought a lot about the issues of privacy and data ownershipand how to keep companies form selling that data for marketing.
Very cool. What is the status of OneCard today?
I try to keep reasonably fresh with new technologies. I worked on somemajor features for the Vienna Open Source RSS reader last year tolearn Cocoa and Objective C, made a compiler using LLVM in C++, anddid a bit of iPhone programming, but there are many better programmersthan me. That's not my greatest strength.
Nice! Good to see someone who knows what LLVM is. :)
2) Would any of you be interested in forming and joining a non-profitinternational coop-type organization to raise money for this meta-project?
Tell us more about how that would work. What kind of money would we
need? What would the budget look like?
Here's the kind of collaboration I'd be happy to work in:In order to foster maximum trust, everyone is completely equal.
So no board of directors? No executive management team? No middle
management?
Or everyone vote counts equally? Or...?
Everyone works at the same pay (adjusted for local cost of livingprobably?) Everyone shares equally in the rewards. 1/3 of excess cashflow gets split evenly to members, 1/3 is used to bring more peopleonboard the project, 1/3 is used to build for the future.
Yes. That's a good model. One I've used in the startups that I've founded.No one would be "in charge" but each of us would have certainresponsibilities that we take on subject to the agreement of the restof the group. I also have some specific ideas on how this might workfrom a practical perspective, and I'm sure you all have some betterones.
I'm eager to see those ideas.
I believe it would be possible to raise as much money as we needpretty quickly.
What money would we need?
Some of you may have more experience as entrepreneurs,I have raised $20 million in the public markets and a few odd millionin various ventures from VCs and angels in the past, so I know a bitabout that process, the timing is right for this idea.
What makes you say the timing is right? In particular the timing
for fund raising/investment? Do you see a particular opportunity?
Has a new technology come to play? New mind sets? Macro or micro
catalysts? Usually when the timing is right (in context of funding)
something made it a plausible opportunity. So I'm curious what you think that is?
The money needs to come in as voluntary donations, either as aKickstarter or IndieGoGo project, from a social venture fund, our ownweb site, or some combination of the above.
Fair assessment.The way to get this funded is to aim very high. Share the commonvision. And have a team of people that can credibly deliver. It iscritical that the team shares the vision and common values.
What does that team look like? What's it's makeup? What's
the desired personality profiles? Etc etc etc.
People will help us if we show them why we want to build this. Why itis important. And what it will mean for the world. Trust them.
Been trying to do that for years. Everyone says "great. come back
when you've got something started and we'll help". So I just sat
down and built it.
I'm a man of action. An active change agent with a demonstrable track
record. I tried to get others on board. Tried to build teams etc. Didn't
work.
So I just started doing stuff. Actively participating in communities and
projects.
Blogging. Tweeting. Keeping my wiki up to date. etc. It's generated
serious buzz
for quite a while and I have my very loyal audience. They quickly
amplify what
I do. I'm the go to guy for so many different things.
It is inexpensive to live here. So it would be great if some otherpeople wanted to work here, but I imagine there being four or fivedifferent locations worldwide that might be involved initially and afew people scattered around in addition who work by themselves.I live in Austin TX. Great place. Like the bay area but a lot cheaper.
We have a production mesh in town. Lots of co ops. Hackerspace.
I work for a hosting company and am very happy with my job. Deeply
fulfilling.
Can enough of us pull together to make this happen?
Yes. We already have pulled together and are already making it happen.
VillageTelco. ServalProject. OpenBTS/OpenBSC. Bitcoin/Cyclos.
Certain pieces are missing (overall integration and security). I'm working
on making those things happen.
What would it take for us to learn to trust each other?
Running code. Git commit history. Active contributions to projects.
I come with decent credentials ( http://blog.knownelement.com/about )
and an extensive trust network already built. I tend to trust people pretty
easily, if they are moving forward and building things.
Each of these projects is big. But we can start small and improveiteratively. Since they are big, I necessarily left a lot out in thebrief descriptions. Further early versions of 3), 4), and 5) can beused independently of 1) and 2) until those are ready.Let me know if I am missing anything or if this idea seems wacky or ifyou think I'm crazy.
You are pretty much in line with everything else I've seen so far. :)