Artist list, no alphabetical quick find at side

[Captain Win]

Hi,

Using BubbleUPnP on my Samsung accessing all my music on Synology NAS via Minimserver. I'm using Link to Windows and have BubbleUPnP open on screen there.

I usually just click random selection from my collection but if I want to play a specific artist/album I go to Playlist > Add Items From Library which opens the library of Minimserver, I choose to browse by Artist and that opens fine but there's no quick find A, B, C, D etc bar down the side so I'm left to scroll through almost 800 artists, which is a pain.

Is there an option in Bubble to have a quick find A, B, C bar down the side?

Second thing is, if I click the magnifying glass and search for artist, I put in R.E.M. and Bubble says 'No Search Result' despite the fact all my REM albums are listed by R.E.M. by MP3Tag.

If I search REM without the dots, it finds bands with those three letters in their name but not R.E.M.  Truly weird.

If I go to my Naim app, aside from it having a quick find A, B, C list it also finds R.E.M. if I search in that. It uses Minimserver 2 as well. 

[SimBun]

As you start scrolling down the artist list a scrollbar will appear on the right hand side that can be used for quick access to the rest of the list. The first letter of the current position in the list will also be displayed.

I'm not suggesting that an A-Z style index can't be an option, but a scrollbar is a better default because not all lists are alphabetical e.g. Artist lists sorted by 'lastname, firstname' but displaying 'firstname lastname'. I personally have my album list sorted by AlbumArtist then by the date of the original release date and only then by the album name.

If you have the licensed version of MinimServer you can have MinimServer generate an A-Z index for you by configuring the alphaGroup setting.

I use BubbleUPnP and MinimServer and a search for 'R.E.M.' works for me. You can debug your issue by looking at the search terms and results from both the Naim and BubbleUPnP app through the MinimServer logging feature.

Assuming you're using MinimWatch:

• Open one of the apps and navigate to the search feature.

• Right click on MinimWatch, select 'Show log', set Logging level to 'Debug' and Clear the window.

• Type 'R.E.M.' into the Naim/BubbleUPnP app and submit the search. Don't click on any of the results as a lot of useless logging will be generated.
  

• Navigate back to the MinimServer log window, set the Logging level back to Info, copy the contents of the log into notepad and Clear the log window.

• Repeat this for the other app and paste the results into a different file.

Make sure that when you've finished, the Logging level is set to 'Info' otherwise MinimServer will be generating a lot of logging when in use.

In the results you'll see the search term and the related results, though they won't be in order as the apps perform a number of different searches (album, artist, track e.t.c.), so you'll need to order them by the Thread number (threads can be reused so you may see more than 1 search per thread).

The following results show BubbleUPnP performing a search for albums where the artist contains 'R.E.M.' with MinimServer reporting 7 matches.

22:41:24.575 Thread-20:  SearchCriteria=(upnp:class = "object.container.album.musicAlbum" and upnp:artist contains "R.E.M.") StartingIndex=0 RequestedCount=16 Filter=* SortCriteria=
22:41:24.578 Thread-20:  NumberReturned=7 TotalMatches=7 UpdateID=114

Alternatively, attach both files in a reply and we can take a look.

[Captain Win]

H SimBun,

I'm using Link to Windows and opening the BubbleUPnP app on my desktop and no scroll bar appears there but it does appear when I open Bubble on the phone itself so that must be some issue with Link to Windows or the app when mirrored on the desktop.  I searched for R.E.M. using BubbleUPnP app on my phone and will attach the doc for that, then I searched with the Naim app, this finds a listing for R.E.M. and this pops up beneath the search bar as I type R.E.M. without having to click 'search' but I don't see anything in the Minimwatch log that says it was searching for that band.  No idea why.  I'll attach that log too.

Regards

Alan

[SimBun]

Hi Alan,

I'm afraid I know nothing about the Naim app but if there's no search activity then it sounds like it's indexing/caching the collection locally, especially given it's prompting you with results as you type (although that's not unheard of whilst still performing a UPnP search). Do you have to update the Naim app after adding new albums to MinimServer?

Your BubbleUPnP logs look exactly like mine except you have spaces in the search term (R._E._M.). Are you sure you have spaces and that the periods in between the letters are ascii periods? When typing into the Naim app, are you typing the full name or selecting the matching artist once you've typed just the first letter and been presented with a list of matches?

If you're only having a problem with this band then it's likely how you've stored the name in the tags, but you could double check by trying another UPnP control point such as Hi-Fi Cast that would also be using a true UPnP search.

Sorry to hear that Link To Windows isn't showing the scrollbar, but apart from configuring MinimServer to add an A-Z index I can't help there. I use the full version of MinimServer and it's worth every penny, but if the free version is doing everything you need already then paying for the upgrade just for the A-Z index is maybe a stretch.

[SimBun]

I updated one of my albums to have 'R. E. M.' as the AlbumArtist and the BubbleUPnP search was succesful so there's no rare bug that's only triggered by a certain search term in either BubbleUPnP or MinimServer.

If you search for 'R.' does it bring back 'R. E. M.'?