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Wilhelm Grüter

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Nov 26, 2023, 7:45:33 AM11/26/23
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BubbleUpnp doesn't find Minimserver nor the the Denon CEOL renderer anymore. Before I played with some vpn software (not only). I can access Minimserver directly from the Denon CEOL device and the RC. Works fine.

Deacivating VPN and also a reset to BubbleUpnp did not change anything. Any ideas ?


System QNAP, Minimserver, Motorola Phone, Denon CEOL,

Bubblesoft

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Nov 26, 2023, 10:00:22 AM11/26/23
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Hi,

Try to reboot your WiFi router and (if necessary) Denon and machine running MinimServer.

Wilhelm Grüter

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Nov 26, 2023, 1:21:13 PM11/26/23
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Hi, I did what you asked me to do and deactivated again the VPN. Then it worked.

It's a bit a mess.

Cheers,

Wilhelm Grüter

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Nov 28, 2023, 10:07:40 AM11/28/23
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Apologies.

Is there a way to use bubbleupnp server to use minimserver via VPN. I don't need internet access to the nas media. The setup of bubbleupnp server on the NAS seems to be successfully but I can't make it visible (proxy mediaserver, renderer) on BubbleUono Android.

Wilhelm Grüter

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Nov 28, 2023, 10:14:46 AM11/28/23
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There is a say within minimserver support forum, that it should work with bubbleupnp server https://forum.minimserver.com/showthread.php?tid=5024&pid=31217#pid31217

Bubblesoft

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Nov 28, 2023, 10:29:11 AM11/28/23
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When your Android device is connected to your VPN, Android BubbleUPnP cannot detect any UPnP/DLNA device (renderers, libraries) nor BubbleUPnP Server, because
on most VPN, SSDP multicast discovery do not work.
With BubbleUPnP Server, you can only access media servers when there is not SSDP discovery (usual case is via the Internet but also apply to VPN).
So you must manually connect to 'BubbleUPnP Server' in More > Settings > Internet access with BubbleUPnP Server. Use the Setup wizard (or click on an 'Unset' entry) and
for 'Server address' use the local ip address of BubbleUPnP on your VPN. That would be the 'LAN Ip address' field displayed in the 'Status' tab:
For example, if the 'LAN Ip address' field is 10.0.0.4, use http://10.0.0.4:58050 for the 'Server address' field.
Set the 'Login' and 'Password' fields to the value you set in the BubbleUPnP Server 'Network and security' tab.
Then in the Library tab, you should see your media server available as Library.

Wilhelm Grüter

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Nov 28, 2023, 11:42:37 AM11/28/23
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Okay. 
On NAS BubbleUpnp Server 
  • Internet related options are not activated.
  • Credentials have been set.
  • Minimserver for BubbleUpnp Android is activated.
  • proxy deactivated
On BubbleUpnp Android Config
  • Credentials have been taken over into BubbleUpnp Android config
  • Local IP adress incl port 58050 has been taken over into BubbleUpnp Android config Internet related options
  • Name has been defined
Without Proton VPN
  • BubbleUpnp Android can access media Library and renderer, I can see both within BubbleUpnp
With Proton VPN
  • BubbleUpnp Android can NOT access media Library and renderer, I can't see any

Cheers

Bubblesoft

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Nov 28, 2023, 12:09:12 PM11/28/23
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With Proton VPN
  • BubbleUpnp Android can NOT access media Library and renderer, I can't see any


For connecting to BubbleUPNP Server in Android BubbleUPnP ('Server Address' field) re you using the local ip address 
that the machine running BubbleUPNP Server has when running under your VPN ?
It might not be the same ip than on your local network without VPN.
If Android BubbleUPnP cannot connect to your configured 'BubbleUPnP Server' (for example if the ip is not correct or port not open), it should display an error message about it on app startup.

Wilhelm Grüter

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Nov 29, 2023, 6:53:47 AM11/29/23
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For connecting to BubbleUPNP Server in Android BubbleUPnP ('Server Address' field) I am using the local ip address that the machine running BubbleUPNP Server has when NOT running under your VPN ? I used a network scanner [Network Analyzer Pro] in order to find the IP under VPN, but was not succssful. Other devices will be displayed by the network scanner eg the renderer, but not the NAS/Minimserver. Nas was not reachable. 

I never saw an error message on BubbleUpnp app.

This morning I found a work around in the VPN config setttings, by deactivating the Always On/Kill Switch option, guess you know what I mean, but it is only a work around. In that case the network scanner is showing the IP adress from the NAS and BubbleUpnp is working as expected.
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