Copybot Ai
Yogprasad Moneta
you can not see if somebody is a copybotter
if your demo items are so easely turned to full items by a botter you need to change your demo
LL does not discuss in any matter the outocome of a report
if LL doesn't see a reason or find directions to that in the behaviour of the reported acounnt, they won't act on it
LL can do as much as possible in the code to prevent copybotting, but no system is waterproof and the botters will be able to walk around any block thats made faster than it's implemented in the software.
It's not only in SL, see the amount of other game assets that are brought in here.
As last, there is not many really unique stuff in sl .. when one can make it, another one can make a perfect copy/lookalike too, don't confuse that with copybotting. My prim looks the same as yours ...
It's more like in RL, buyers have to be educated that 5 L$ full perm from one day old accounts are smelly ... don't buy it. This type of botters only exists because there is a market.
Digital copying of all sorts of things goes on, legal and illegal. Numerous anti-copy technologies have been devised and tried. ALL HAVE FAILED. The most well known is probably the music industry. You can Google for the history of those failures.
The result is the world relies on copyright law to protect intellectual property. Linden Lab complies with and supports those laws. There simply is nothing else that can be done as nothing else works.
The problem is basic. Somewhere there is a server with a digital something you want to see or hear. For you to see it the server has to send you a copy. Your computer takes that copy of 0's and 1's and turns it into what you see or hear on your computer. The computer may save that data as a file, which is what the viewer has done with the files in its cache. Since something in your computer knows how to convert that data to its final render it should be obvious that anyone can eventually figure out how that is done and do it. In the case of the SL viewers, which are open source, all the how-to is in the open source code available to everyone. One doesn't have to figure out much. Literally, the hard work is already done. With some minor effort anyone can build a copybot viewer and that has been done frequently.
If there is no app for converting the data to something you can see... then it is of no use. The whole anti-theft game in the digital world is about making a system no one can figure out and duplicate. The flaw is some human thought it up in the first place. So, they are betting no one can think up how it was done after someone already did it...
There is a reason why demos of some mesh heads have strips of missing pixels. Fox was likely talking about something like that, or defacement of the demo in part by different textures (such as seen in many demo hairstyles), not the permissions you're using.
I suggest attaching a sign to the demo itself explaining that the demo has missing pixels but the full version is complete. Most people will, of course, not read it (the mesh head brand that I work for does the 'missing pixels and huge sign' thing, and we still constantly get people asking in support chat why their head demo has bits missing!) but you can point to that sign when people ask you why your skirt etc has holes in it
Copying no copy items is against the rules, yes. Using a copybot enabled viewer is enough to get you permanently banned. You may no longer be able to legitimately get that particular item, but you could probably find one similar or better or even learn how to make your own.
Yes. Copybotting ANY item is against the ToS. Don't do it. If the item is no longer available, then you can't get it, period. Copybotting it can and likely will get you banned. It doesn't matter if the creator is still inworld or not.
Look for a similar item. If the item is transferrable, you can look for someone to sell you their copy. Chances are the item is either copy, no transfer, or transfer, no copy. If it's no transfer, there's nothing to be done, but if it's no copy but trans, you can look for someone who has the item and doesn't want it anymore.
There is a place called The Warehouse that sells al lthe discontinued armidi clothes. Here it is in search. I am not in world now so can't grab a slurl. It is owned by Armidi. It is a large place and they seem to have everything Armidi used to sell at the flagship stores.
Mhm, I used exactly that argument once ... got reported and subsequentely suspended for 3 days. Some creators even banned me from their sims after that. Afterall it wasn't too bad and gives me the fuzzy warm feeling of being a true anarchist.
It was way back in the old times. All I did was combining 2 items that I both legally own (skin and tattoo) to save on clothing layers. So I wasn't really a bad girl. Anyway, it's against the TOS and copyright and intellectual property rights and whatnot so I got what I deserved. Funny enough the original creators of neither the skin nor the tat were amonst the ppl who banned me. My only mistake was to first ask around in forum and later even posting about the conspirational meeting I had with the copybotter. If you keep it quiet and don't brag about it you should be fine.
Yeah right. It isn't ok. And as I said I got what I deserved. On the other hand it was my rightfully purchased skin and also my rightfully purchased ink. I know, I know, it's still illegal. But then I didn't cheat anybody out of their income, didn't cause no harm, was just playing with my own stuff for my own amusement and for the ability to wear a top that needed all 3 layers + my tattoo.
I wish Linden Lab had your line of thinking, Orca. Why are the Lindens so obsessed with copyright? I mean sure, protecting others' IP rights is very important. But as long as 1) nobody's making any money off of it, 2) nobody is being denied money they deserve, and 3) you aren't falsely claiming something as your own, the Terms of Service really seem to be the only reason something isn't OK. I understand you being suspended for violating the ToS, Orca. But other than that, I really don't see anything you did wrong. As for copyright, I'm sure what you did would qualify as fair use in any decent court of law.
Also, I'm aware someone may argue that since a copybotted item has the copybotter's name listed under Creator, that technically goes against point 3 above. If I was permitted under the ToS to copy Armidi's item, I would be sure to make note of that in the item's description, which is shown everywhere the item's creator is. That way, nobody's rights would be infringed.
Linden Lab really needs to rewrite that portion of the ToS to allow for fair use. Despite the reputation it has, there are (IMO) valid reasons to copy an item that don't infringe on the creator's rights, and I would love it if LL agreed so I could actually do so.
As for the item I'm looking for, the hair is called The Short V. And I clicked on the link and did a Ctrl-F search for "hair", and didn't find anything. I also visited the location and can't find it using Firestorm's area search tool.
they cant do this. linden cant pick and choose the parts of the Berne Convention that they might want to apply. the fair use provision under the Convention only cover using a portion of the copyrighted work. it dont cover a whole other copy
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